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Old Aug 6, 2002 | 02:20 PM
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5-speed Conversion Pics and info

Well this is posted a couple weeks late, but I finally got around to scanning the pictures.

The conversion was done in Jacksonville, FLA w/Chaz Roth (Cbr2). We got to Chaz's "Car yard" around 7pm and completed the conversion sunday around 2:30 pm. It was a LONG but fun process. Since I helped convert it I learned alot about my car and how it works. It gives you a good feeling knowing you got down and helped. I ruined a couple pairs of clothes so anyone thinking of doing this, wear crappy clothes. Chaz made me do all the dirty work so I had fun with the shifter assembly and driveshafts under the car. It wasn't so bad on the cement under my car, but in the dirt under the donor car is where it got messy!

Friday: drive shafts out. pedals out

Saturday: Parts car additional parts removal, auto out, 5speed in, shifting rods in, pedals in.

Sunday: Bleed system, interior put back together, drive shafts in.

My conversion included a 70K non-locking transmission with all the donor parts from that car with the exception of a new clutch/pressure plate. The transmission is in great shape and shifts with no lag at all. Everything total cost me $1000.






Getting the shifter linkages undone under there was kind of a pain. Everything was WELL worth it though.
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 02:22 PM
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Car before with autotragic


Car after with APC ****/pacesetter STS


As you can see the shifter is REALLY short. The throws are really short as well, but stiffer then the stock throws. Good for racing, bad for lazy day to day driving. It's a tradeoff that's un-avoidable with this car becuase the way the shifter linkages are designed you can't get shorter throws without stiffer throws. I like it though. Looks better, and shifts faster.
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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Nice work! how do ya like it?
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 02:24 PM
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Good job!!!!

I'm still staying auto though.
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 02:28 PM
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Nice work! : how do ya like it?
Thanks Carnal and Deezo. I LOVE it. With my auto I could barely get a chirp from the tires off the line. Now, when I dump the clutch at 2.7k rpms I spin all the way through first and squeel into second. I can be going like 10mph in first gear and slam the gas and the tires will squeel. I can feel the car moving alot faster now too.
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 03:53 PM
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Gotta love the 5spd eh? KNow the feeling. Although I lost some power in mine for some reason. Before I used to be able to smoke tires while still going 10 mph, now they barely squeal (?). I had the ypipe on before, now its stock, but still thats low rpms. Maybe a knock sensor? Also what was the hardest part for you? For me was drilling that damn hole for the master cylinder b/c i didnt have the right size bit.
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 04:02 PM
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Gotta love the 5spd eh? KNow the feeling. Although I lost some power in mine for some reason. Before I used to be able to smoke tires while still going 10 mph, now they barely squeal (?). I had the ypipe on before, now its stock, but still thats low rpms. Maybe a knock sensor? Also what was the hardest part for you? For me was drilling that damn hole for the master cylinder b/c i didnt have the right size bit.
Hmm...well in first gear @10mph, isn't that at like 3k RPMs? At those RPM's the downpipe should be adding significant torque/HP. So would the intake. Also consider the road, weather, and type of tire. On certain roads I can't chirp into second or anything becuase they grip to well. On other slicker roads I squeel like a friggen Camaro SS. Tons of variables to think about.

YES drilling for the master cylinder was a b!tch!! Instead of getting a hole saw Chaz got a dremel circular peice. We had to SLOWLY sand away the metal until the hole got big enough.
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yum yum 5spd
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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With all the back and forth we've had, I gotta say thats sweet man. Good work!
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All Ive done so far is install the pedals and master cylinder, and I have to say, making that damn hole was a pain in the a$$!!! Took me about 2 hours! It's a good thing I borrowed a dremel, because a drill would not have done the job for me...
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by gtr_rider
With all the back and forth we've had, I gotta say thats sweet man. Good work!
Thanks
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 06:03 PM
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nice work man...do you still get into the car and grab the shifter like your old auto...
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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nice work man...do you still get into the car and grab the shifter like your old auto...
Well Will I have a 5-speed now, so yes I play with the shifter alot more now. I love the 5-speed. Rolling backwards at stoplights and creeping forward with my dualies blaring in peoples faces...good times i tell you.
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 06:47 PM
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hmmm

only if someone in NY would help me do this in under 1,500$ ... hmm....
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hmmm

only if someone in NY would help me do this in under 1,500$ ... hmm....

Hmm......maybe. I have another tranny in my garage, I just need to finish rebuilding it. I need 2 parts. They are on the way.
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by skeelo34



Hmm......maybe. I have another tranny in my garage, I just need to finish rebuilding it. I need 2 parts. They are on the way.
would this include parts and the work?

I'm still looking around for another car but if i dont find anything, i'm seriously giving thought to the conversion seeing how many people have had success with it.
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next mod, get rid of the tan interior
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by costcowholesale
next mod, get rid of the tan interior
if i go all out
i know a guy near me who customized a bunch of interiors, dye and such.. Maybe I'll have the ***** and the $ to do this in the next 6 months..
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by costcowholesale
next mod, get rid of the tan interior :col:
I like my ooglie tan cloth womanly interior

Steve(Nycemaxima) Ah, I forgot to list whats wrong with my car now.

-Check engine light. (We used the Auto ecu cause someone didn't want to swap in the manual one)

-Reverse lights. Whenever the car was put into neutral the reverse lights would come on. It is pretty involved (for me at least) to fix it so I just took the damn things out.

-cruise Control doesn't work...that along with the reverse lights we simply overlooked. Damn!
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 07:18 PM
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5-speeds rule, Autos drool.

Old Aug 6, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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:::waiting for chaz-man to respond:::
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 08:13 PM
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So that problem you've been having with the clutch not engaging sometimes, is everything fixed now?

and congrats again!!
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Autos rule!
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Autos rule!
sure sure whats your next mod Kev? http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=141117
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 09:23 PM
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WOW!

IMPRESSIVE!
Old Aug 6, 2002 | 10:26 PM
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Why didn't you go with 6 gears instead of 5? Just curious. But damn man, that's an awesome mod. Gives us autos something to dream about.
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Why didn't you go with 6 gears instead of 5? Just curious. But damn man, that's an awesome mod. Gives us autos something to dream about.
Um...I don't believe there is a 6 speed trans for a 4th Gen...would have to be made custom if at all possible...
Old Aug 7, 2002 | 05:34 AM
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Um...I don't believe there is a 6 speed trans for a 4th Gen...would have to be made custom if at all possible...
On the contrary. The bellhousing on the RS5F50 and the RS6F51 are probably the same so it may bolt right up. I'll have an asnwer ina few months unless someone beats me to it.
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Autos rule!
Time to change your tune Kev.
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:::waiting for chaz-man to respond:::
Not much to say..
The N-R switch is wired backwards.. this will fix the reverse lights..
The cruise I think needs for the auto wire harness to have the "D" wires spliced together.. I think the cruise won't engage cuz the car does not think it is in drive.
Old Aug 10, 2002 | 08:43 PM
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Originally posted by cbr2

Not much to say..
The N-R switch is wired backwards.. this will fix the reverse lights..
The cruise I think needs for the auto wire harness to have the "D" wires spliced together.. I think the cruise won't engage cuz the car does not think it is in drive.
Laziness....is a *****.
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