'03 Infiniti G35 or '03 Infiniti I35. Which one would you pick? (real life dilema)
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'03 Infiniti G35 or '03 Infiniti I35. Which one would you pick? (real life dilema)
My girlfriend is getting ready to trade in her 99 Accord EX for a new car. She's pretty much leaving the decision of which car to buy up to me... she just wants it to have leather and decent pickup... beyond that she doesn't care, and just wants me to pick the one I think will last the longest and be the best bang for the buck.
I've been looking at it seems like I can actually get an I35 w/ no options (still comes with leather, dual power seats, bose stereo, xenon headlights, etc, etc- just doesn't have sunroof, sport package, or GPS- which doesn't really matter to us) for a couple thousand less than I can get the G35. And that's with no options besides leather on the G35... it wouldn't come with the Bose stereo, xenon headlights, power seats, or any of that- for that price)
We're looking to keep these cars under 27k... and we can get both cars for a tad under invoice (I know a guy that owns an Infiniti dealership and already told me any car I want from the dealership he'll sell for a bit under invoice). But that means that I can't add any more options to the G35.
Whatever car we get it's going to be 4-door (so no G35 coupe in this comparison) and will be auto tranny (g/f can't and won't drive a stick)
So I'm asking for a comparison here.
I really like the fact that the G35 is RWD, that is has a little more power, and that it comes with a 5-speed auto.
But I also like the fact that the I35 is on a proven platform is has been through many years with nothing but tweaks to fix all the bugs that have been discovered over the years. Plus I get the feeling that the I35 will be a much more comfortable ride? But then again it seems like the G35 will handle a lot better and be noticably faster. I've heard things about the G35's interior being cheap and poorly built for a 30k dollar car... which I've never heard about the I35, and interior build quality and material quality is a big concern of mine, as I HATE squeeks and rattles with a passion.
I would assume that the G35, being built on the 'latest greatest' FMP chassis from Nissan\Infiniti, probably has a stiffer and more rigid chassis... meaning it would stay 'tight' feeling longer than the I35 would... which is essentially based on the same chassis as my '95 Maxima was based on, and I can attest that it had a very loose feeling chassis... albeit after 110k miles.
But then again I know that strut tower braces and even subframe connectors are available for 95-02 Maximas... nothing really changed for 03, and the I35 is basically the same car as far as the chassis is concerned, so I would assume that I could bolt on some subframe connectors to the I35 as soon as I got it. But even then, would it be stiffer and more resistant to flex than the stock G35 chassis?
Also, are there subframe connectors and STBs available for the G35 yet? If not, do you think there ever will be?
I know the G35 has some neat tricks like drive by wire, dual stage exhaust, etc... does the I35 utilize these new technologies?
And overall, which car do you think will hold its original qualities and original resale value the best?
I have to give style points to the G35's exterior for sure... but honestly I think I like the I35's interior better... and I'm going to be spending a lot more time looking at the interior than I am the exterior.
Plus the whole thing about buying an '03 Infiniti without even power seats, Xenon lights, or a decent stereo system... just kind of disturbs me.
So what do you guys think\know?
Give me a complete rundown of all the facts and opinions you can come up with for this comparison.
Thanks a million!
I've been looking at it seems like I can actually get an I35 w/ no options (still comes with leather, dual power seats, bose stereo, xenon headlights, etc, etc- just doesn't have sunroof, sport package, or GPS- which doesn't really matter to us) for a couple thousand less than I can get the G35. And that's with no options besides leather on the G35... it wouldn't come with the Bose stereo, xenon headlights, power seats, or any of that- for that price)
We're looking to keep these cars under 27k... and we can get both cars for a tad under invoice (I know a guy that owns an Infiniti dealership and already told me any car I want from the dealership he'll sell for a bit under invoice). But that means that I can't add any more options to the G35.
Whatever car we get it's going to be 4-door (so no G35 coupe in this comparison) and will be auto tranny (g/f can't and won't drive a stick)
So I'm asking for a comparison here.
I really like the fact that the G35 is RWD, that is has a little more power, and that it comes with a 5-speed auto.
But I also like the fact that the I35 is on a proven platform is has been through many years with nothing but tweaks to fix all the bugs that have been discovered over the years. Plus I get the feeling that the I35 will be a much more comfortable ride? But then again it seems like the G35 will handle a lot better and be noticably faster. I've heard things about the G35's interior being cheap and poorly built for a 30k dollar car... which I've never heard about the I35, and interior build quality and material quality is a big concern of mine, as I HATE squeeks and rattles with a passion.
I would assume that the G35, being built on the 'latest greatest' FMP chassis from Nissan\Infiniti, probably has a stiffer and more rigid chassis... meaning it would stay 'tight' feeling longer than the I35 would... which is essentially based on the same chassis as my '95 Maxima was based on, and I can attest that it had a very loose feeling chassis... albeit after 110k miles.
But then again I know that strut tower braces and even subframe connectors are available for 95-02 Maximas... nothing really changed for 03, and the I35 is basically the same car as far as the chassis is concerned, so I would assume that I could bolt on some subframe connectors to the I35 as soon as I got it. But even then, would it be stiffer and more resistant to flex than the stock G35 chassis?
Also, are there subframe connectors and STBs available for the G35 yet? If not, do you think there ever will be?
I know the G35 has some neat tricks like drive by wire, dual stage exhaust, etc... does the I35 utilize these new technologies?
And overall, which car do you think will hold its original qualities and original resale value the best?
I have to give style points to the G35's exterior for sure... but honestly I think I like the I35's interior better... and I'm going to be spending a lot more time looking at the interior than I am the exterior.
Plus the whole thing about buying an '03 Infiniti without even power seats, Xenon lights, or a decent stereo system... just kind of disturbs me.
So what do you guys think\know?
Give me a complete rundown of all the facts and opinions you can come up with for this comparison.
Thanks a million!
#2
This is the last model year for the I35, after that the resale value will start to go down very quickly. Meanwhile the G35 will just hopefully be picking up more steam (With the release of the coupe next month, then the 6 speed for the sedan shortly after). I drove both and the G35 is faster, handles much better, sounds mean, tranny feels much nicer, ride comfort is definitely very acceptable. However, I dont really like its looks (Pretty damn plain to say the least) and the interior doesnt work at all for me. So I guess I like the looks of the I35 much better but the design is already getting old, at least to me, and the interior of the I35 blows away the G35 but some people have different tastes. I guess in the end go with whats fresh and the G35 just fits the profile for younger people much better than an I35.
Ever thought about a 2K3 SE Maxima fully loaded, including titanium package and Navigation. You'll probably get it for the same price as the other two the way things seem to be going now. To get a Nissan at around or a bit below invoice, you dont even have to know the owner, just be able to bargain a bit.
Ever thought about a 2K3 SE Maxima fully loaded, including titanium package and Navigation. You'll probably get it for the same price as the other two the way things seem to be going now. To get a Nissan at around or a bit below invoice, you dont even have to know the owner, just be able to bargain a bit.
#4
Thats a really long post, and honestly I didn't read it, but I would pick the G35 hands down. RWD, more power and better looks. If possible I'd wait for the coupe and 6spd, if that meets your needs.
#6
Hmmm. The I35 is bigger, interior space and trunk. More practical. Plus nicer amenities. FWD. Safer in bad conditions., like snow etc. The G35 has RWD, more performance oriented. Less roomy, but faster. Not by much. 255 I35 vs 260 G35. The G35 will be faster, more b/c of the 5 speed auto. The motors are basically the same. But still, after a 99 Accord, even the I35 will blow her away.
If your girlfriend is more practical, get the I35. If she's performance oriented and likes more flash (on the outisde), get the G35.
Both cars will have more than decent pickup, especially since she's coming from a Honda.
Resale value will probably be higher for the G35 since it's more of a niche model.
DW
If your girlfriend is more practical, get the I35. If she's performance oriented and likes more flash (on the outisde), get the G35.
Both cars will have more than decent pickup, especially since she's coming from a Honda.
Resale value will probably be higher for the G35 since it's more of a niche model.
DW
#9
If you have Infiniti connections, I'd say by all means get the G35--just be sure you can get the G35 for near invoice as most find it hard to pay much less than full retail. Definitely have the GF test drive both. The G35 is definitely a firm ride, which she may not appreciate, but definitely handles quite a bit nicer. It is also a much more stylish car that for now, is a little more exclusive and special. To me, the I35 looks a little too similar to it's Maxima cousin for a luxury division.
#10
Jeez, you do know the I35 is just a rebadged Maxima, right? I would never pay upper 20K/lower 30K for a car with a rear beam axle like the Maxima/I35.
Advantages of the G35:
1) RWD = better overall handling, traction control will save you in bad conditions
2) Nearly perfect 50/50 weight split which means great handling
3) A true BMW 3-series contender
4) 5 speed automatic = far better acceleration
5) Much better looks
6) independent rear suspension = better ride over choppy surfaces
Dave
Advantages of the G35:
1) RWD = better overall handling, traction control will save you in bad conditions
2) Nearly perfect 50/50 weight split which means great handling
3) A true BMW 3-series contender
4) 5 speed automatic = far better acceleration
5) Much better looks
6) independent rear suspension = better ride over choppy surfaces
Dave
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Originally posted by Dave B
Jeez, you do know the I35 is just a rebadged Maxima, right? I would never pay upper 20K/lower 30K for a car with a rear beam axle like the Maxima/I35.
Advantages of the G35:
1) RWD = better overall handling, traction control will save you in bad conditions
2) Nearly perfect 50/50 weight split which means great handling
3) A true BMW 3-series contender
4) 5 speed automatic = far better acceleration
5) Much better looks
6) independent rear suspension = better ride over choppy surfaces
Dave
Jeez, you do know the I35 is just a rebadged Maxima, right? I would never pay upper 20K/lower 30K for a car with a rear beam axle like the Maxima/I35.
Advantages of the G35:
1) RWD = better overall handling, traction control will save you in bad conditions
2) Nearly perfect 50/50 weight split which means great handling
3) A true BMW 3-series contender
4) 5 speed automatic = far better acceleration
5) Much better looks
6) independent rear suspension = better ride over choppy surfaces
Dave
#13
Acceleration isn that much better in the G35 both do 0-60 in the 6's, similiar 1/4 mile times from what I have seen Edmunds and other sources.
My sentiments are along the lines of Dave B, but I don't know if your gf is going to take factors such as slightly better acceleration & advantages of RWD over things like interior/exterior styling and room.
As a performance-oriented driver, I'd choose the G35 (obviously the 6-spd coupe at the top of the list). As someone who really can't tell a difference in accel or the way a rear beam vs. independent rear susp feels, I'd side with I35.
Why doesn't she like the Accord? The answer of that question might help.
#14
Hands down the G35, and not just because I own one. After having an I35 loaner car I always enjoy getting back into my car. The I35 is very floaty in comparison to the G. By the way if you end up ordering a new G35, which will be the 2003.5 model the HIDs come standard as far as I have read, there are a couple other differences but nothing major. Your girlfriend won't be dissapointed if you go with the G35.
ps. the exhaust tone is perfect on the car, like I read in Road and Track(i think it was them), "If you could squint your ears you'd swear it was a v-12."
ps. the exhaust tone is perfect on the car, like I read in Road and Track(i think it was them), "If you could squint your ears you'd swear it was a v-12."
#19
Originally posted by Finality
G35 w/o a doubt.
G35 w/o a doubt.
a dilemma or is it more of a quandary?
I say you should get the G35. Screw the resale value issue. Buying
a vehicle is not an investment. It should be considered a sunk cost
the moment you sign the papers. If you're buying a car that you like,
you're not buying it to sell it; you're buying it to drive it and
enjoy it. Pick the car that best lets you do that.
#21
I got a G35 loaner car when i bought my I30t for service. Dam that car was fun. Turn off traction control and go to somewhere empty and you will entertain yourself drifting around. The engine is dam tight. It sounds so nice and pulls crazy after 3krpms. I would pick the G35 coupe, then 350z, then G35, then I35.
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i love my sunroof so much i couldnt see myself ever buying anything without one, unless it was a mercedes hardtop convertible but we're not talking about those. for your girl, i think the i35 is a better choice. they have the same engine, and it's not like the i35 is a bad handler or anything. will your girl really notice a difference?? im sure she'd appreciate bose too.
#25
Man you guys are too funny Of course a performance oriented maxima board will pick the G35. I would, too, if it was for me. Actually, I would get the G35C 6 speed with the sports package, and KILL THAT DAMN UGLY WING! Sheesh, that beautiful coupe, spoiled by the spoiler.
Anyways, try to think of what she wants. Maybe you should print this thread and show it to her. See how she reacts.
DW
Anyways, try to think of what she wants. Maybe you should print this thread and show it to her. See how she reacts.
DW
#27
tough choice here...
If it were going to be *my* next car, I'd pick the G35. More power, better suspension/handling, RWD, and it's bright shiny new. It would also be 2-door, 6-speed, and, um, not available for many more months...
OTOH, if it was for my wife, I think I'd actually end up going with the I35, because it's got softer suspension, would have more options, she'd prefer the more refined wood-trimmed interior, and she already thinks the max has more than enough power. Plus, I'd know how everything works, so it'd be easier to maintain.
As for resale, It's probably safe to say that the G35 will do better. Think 94/95 Max. And which will hold up better in the long run? Hm, don't have my crystal ball handy.
Should be fun either way though As a final note, I think I actually prefer the exterior styling of the I35 to the G. The G looks good in pictures, but to my eyes, it looks a bit too skinny in person. And the rear end really looks like ***. Har de har. But really, it doesn't even compare to the loveliness of the Coupe and 350 backsides.
the Loon
OTOH, if it was for my wife, I think I'd actually end up going with the I35, because it's got softer suspension, would have more options, she'd prefer the more refined wood-trimmed interior, and she already thinks the max has more than enough power. Plus, I'd know how everything works, so it'd be easier to maintain.
As for resale, It's probably safe to say that the G35 will do better. Think 94/95 Max. And which will hold up better in the long run? Hm, don't have my crystal ball handy.
Should be fun either way though As a final note, I think I actually prefer the exterior styling of the I35 to the G. The G looks good in pictures, but to my eyes, it looks a bit too skinny in person. And the rear end really looks like ***. Har de har. But really, it doesn't even compare to the loveliness of the Coupe and 350 backsides.
the Loon
#31
I own a 1995 Maxima SE 5-spd. This year I traded in my 2000 Infiniti I30t (auto-tragic) for my 2003 Infiniti G35. Nobody has told me my G35 is fugly. Quite the contrary! Most folks drool on themselves as they tell me how great it looks. Its Garnet Fire (red) exterior and light Willow interior is a great combination.
Do I spend more time looking at the G35's exterior or the interior? Neither, actually. I spend most of my time looking forward through the windshield as I drive down the road. The G35's interior is more than good enough for me. It has great pick-up, and it handles like a dream. It feels light and responsive. It has ABS, EBD, and VDC to go along with its limited-slip diff. And its BRAKES are terrific. My G35 inspires confidence, and it is a very safe, yet fun, car to drive.
Your GF will think she's driving a truck in a I35. It rides soft and sluggish, and it feels heavy. It has a HUGE turning radius that can be very frustrating, especially when it comes to navigating in tight places, like parking lots, driveways, and gas stations. Its looks are OK, but it won't turn any heads. And it does look like a Maxima.
After I test-drove a G35, I couldn't trade-in my I30t fast enough.
But, let her test-drive them both, compare their features/benefits, and pick the color she likes. Let her choose. If she asks you which one YOU think she should get, tell her the value and safety built into the G35 makes it a good choice for her.
My money is on the G35. Good luck.
Do I spend more time looking at the G35's exterior or the interior? Neither, actually. I spend most of my time looking forward through the windshield as I drive down the road. The G35's interior is more than good enough for me. It has great pick-up, and it handles like a dream. It feels light and responsive. It has ABS, EBD, and VDC to go along with its limited-slip diff. And its BRAKES are terrific. My G35 inspires confidence, and it is a very safe, yet fun, car to drive.
Your GF will think she's driving a truck in a I35. It rides soft and sluggish, and it feels heavy. It has a HUGE turning radius that can be very frustrating, especially when it comes to navigating in tight places, like parking lots, driveways, and gas stations. Its looks are OK, but it won't turn any heads. And it does look like a Maxima.
After I test-drove a G35, I couldn't trade-in my I30t fast enough.
But, let her test-drive them both, compare their features/benefits, and pick the color she likes. Let her choose. If she asks you which one YOU think she should get, tell her the value and safety built into the G35 makes it a good choice for her.
My money is on the G35. Good luck.
#32
The G35 already had issues. They came out with a 2003.5 model where they fixed the gas tank issue, and HIDs standard. They also changed the trunk a little. Looks better.
There is a G that parks near my building at school...
I have yet to be in a G so I can't comment on interior. I own an I30 and love the interior (cept for rattles) The I35 can only be better.
She should test drive them both and see what she likes. Id get the G though
There is a G that parks near my building at school...
I have yet to be in a G so I can't comment on interior. I own an I30 and love the interior (cept for rattles) The I35 can only be better.
She should test drive them both and see what she likes. Id get the G though
#34
Originally posted by bullseye
I own a 1995 Maxima SE 5-spd. This year I traded in my 2000 Infiniti I30t (auto-tragic) for my 2003 Infiniti G35. Nobody has told me my G35 is fugly. Quite the contrary! Most folks drool on themselves as they tell me how great it looks. Its Garnet Fire (red) exterior and light Willow interior is a great combination.
Do I spend more time looking at the G35's exterior or the interior? Neither, actually. I spend most of my time looking forward through the windshield as I drive down the road. The G35's interior is more than good enough for me. It has great pick-up, and it handles like a dream. It feels light and responsive. It has ABS, EBD, and VDC to go along with its limited-slip diff. And its BRAKES are terrific. My G35 inspires confidence, and it is a very safe, yet fun, car to drive.
Your GF will think she's driving a truck in a I35. It rides soft and sluggish, and it feels heavy. It has a HUGE turning radius that can be very frustrating, especially when it comes to navigating in tight places, like parking lots, driveways, and gas stations. Its looks are OK, but it won't turn any heads. And it does look like a Maxima.
After I test-drove a G35, I couldn't trade-in my I30t fast enough.
But, let her test-drive them both, compare their features/benefits, and pick the color she likes. Let her choose. If she asks you which one YOU think she should get, tell her the value and safety built into the G35 makes it a good choice for her.
My money is on the G35. Good luck.
I own a 1995 Maxima SE 5-spd. This year I traded in my 2000 Infiniti I30t (auto-tragic) for my 2003 Infiniti G35. Nobody has told me my G35 is fugly. Quite the contrary! Most folks drool on themselves as they tell me how great it looks. Its Garnet Fire (red) exterior and light Willow interior is a great combination.
Do I spend more time looking at the G35's exterior or the interior? Neither, actually. I spend most of my time looking forward through the windshield as I drive down the road. The G35's interior is more than good enough for me. It has great pick-up, and it handles like a dream. It feels light and responsive. It has ABS, EBD, and VDC to go along with its limited-slip diff. And its BRAKES are terrific. My G35 inspires confidence, and it is a very safe, yet fun, car to drive.
Your GF will think she's driving a truck in a I35. It rides soft and sluggish, and it feels heavy. It has a HUGE turning radius that can be very frustrating, especially when it comes to navigating in tight places, like parking lots, driveways, and gas stations. Its looks are OK, but it won't turn any heads. And it does look like a Maxima.
After I test-drove a G35, I couldn't trade-in my I30t fast enough.
But, let her test-drive them both, compare their features/benefits, and pick the color she likes. Let her choose. If she asks you which one YOU think she should get, tell her the value and safety built into the G35 makes it a good choice for her.
My money is on the G35. Good luck.
#35
A lot of people seem to comment that it is a small car, particularly that it is narrow. But inside, there is plenty of room. Sure it is smaller, but that just means it is able to handle so much better. Fit and finish may not be up to others in the entry luxo class but the G35 is the biggest bargain out there. In fact, it's probably the only real option out there at $27k unless you scale down to an A4 4-banger. Nissan has done well to make this car the complete package: stopping power, go power, style, comfort, etc.
#38
Originally posted by shortchaz
Just to give you guys an idea of the size of the interior room, I am 6'9" and have a little extra room. In the I35/Maxima I bearly have enough room, I am very tight in it and wouldn't even be able to drive the 6-spd.
Just to give you guys an idea of the size of the interior room, I am 6'9" and have a little extra room. In the I35/Maxima I bearly have enough room, I am very tight in it and wouldn't even be able to drive the 6-spd.
#39
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
I think the G35 looks great from the front. But what has really surprised me about the car is it doesn't look that great from the back, and the worst of it is it looks like a small car.
I think the G35 looks great from the front. But what has really surprised me about the car is it doesn't look that great from the back, and the worst of it is it looks like a small car.
Old G35 Rear
New G35 rear
#40
Despite the fact that most people here prefer the G35 (as well as me) maybe you should just tell her to drive both cars. The g35 is obviously more sporty but the I35 does have more room an a much nicer interior. You should also consider the Maxima as a 3rd option since it's less money than the I35. Or you could wait a few weeks for the G35 coupe which looks even better. I sat in one of those last week and I must say that car is awesome. I just wish they would make the interior look a little more like the Maxima.