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Old 11-04-2002, 10:36 AM
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How to tune SAFC

I am getting an apexi safc soon and I was wondering how people have been tuning them to get the best results? I know some people think it is BS but I have heard from others that it can show gains. Any comments would be helpful. Thanks.
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Re: How to tune SAFC

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I am getting an apexi safc soon and I was wondering how people have been tuning them to get the best results? I know some people think it is BS but I have heard from others that it can show gains. Any comments would be helpful. Thanks.
Ummm....why do you need this? Are you running a turbo? SC?.....
If not....i would have spent the money on the safc.....maybe got something the will positively give you gains.... Like nitrous.
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Re: Re: How to tune SAFC

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Ummm....why do you need this? Are you running a turbo? SC?.....
If not....i would have spent the money on the safc.....maybe got something the will positively give you gains.... Like nitrous.


The S-AFC will give gains to a NA maxima.
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Re: Re: Re: How to tune SAFC

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The S-AFC will give gains to a NA maxima.
What kind of numbers? Enough to make the 300 or so worth it?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: How to tune SAFC

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What kind of numbers? Enough to make the 300 or so worth it?
small gains....but at least its a pretty blue color!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: How to tune SAFC

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What kind of numbers? Enough to make the 300 or so worth it?

I will say some where in the 10 HP range... depending on what else you have done your car.

So 10 HP worth $300 to you?

If you spent $150 on an intake giving you 5 HP... then 300 for 10 is not out of the realm to me... BUT what is it worth to YOU?

And if you have I/Y/E/VI... I think it would be right on the money... unless you wanted to save for a larger mod
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Re: Re: How to tune SAFC

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Like nitrous.
Plus some people like playing the NA game for what it is worth.

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On this VERY SITE.. is a brilliant write up by Keven97SE on how to tune an AFC ... now i have given you his name and the topic.. now i am not going to tell you how to find it
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I probably wouldn't bother unless you are boosted in some way. Put the money towards nitrous or something else!
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: How to tune SAFC

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I will say some where in the 10 HP range... depending on what else you have done your car.

So 10 HP worth $300 to you?

If you spent $150 on an intake giving you 5 HP... then 300 for 10 is not out of the realm to me... BUT what is it worth to YOU?

And if you have I/Y/E/VI... I think it would be right on the money... unless you wanted to save for a larger mod
Hmmmm


Dammit bags.....now you have me wanting one!


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who on here gained 10hp N/A from an AFC?? and with what mods??
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Originally posted by DA-MAX
who on here gained 10hp N/A from an AFC?? and with what mods??

did not say on here... and basic bolt on's
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Originally posted by bags533
did not say on here... and basic bolt
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where did they make the power at?? what were the optimum points on the band??
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Re: How to tune SAFC

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Can you tone down your sig, it is FN huge and takes up space, besides 90% of the things listed people done got already.
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Wow sprint you know everthing.
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Re: Re: How to tune SAFC

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Can you tone down your sig, it is FN huge and takes up space, besides 90% of the things listed people done got already.
it has been mentioned a few times...no luck.
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Originally posted by DA-MAX


where did they make the power at?? what were the optimum points on the band??

from my understanding there was a 3-5 HP gain through out with 1st/street setting and " about 10 peak HP " on the 2nd/track setting
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Originally posted by bags533
from my understanding there was a 3-5 HP gain through out with 1st/street setting and " about 10 peak HP " on the 2nd/track setting
interesting...a buddy of mine made ~11-12fwhp throughout after adding the AFC to his VG with P/P heads, Euro cams and bolt-ons! I wasn't doubting you, just curious to see where the gains were....

according to some of the guys on the SE-R boards the secret(if even anymore...) on most N/A Nissan's is to slightly lean out the top-end...personally I'd never try to tune one of these on my own...
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Originally posted by DA-MAX


interesting...a buddy of mine made ~11-12fwhp throughout after adding the AFC to his VG with P/P heads, Euro cams and bolt-ons! I wasn't doubting you, just curious to see where the gains were....

according to some of the guys on the SE-R boards the secret(if even anymore...) on most N/A Nissan's is to slightly lean out the top-end...personally I'd never try to tune one of these on my own...
I wish i knew the guy better who did it. I have been thinking about this for awhile... there is a shop here in atlanta the specializes in nissans/240's and they sware by them.. If I were looking at staying NA I would have one ASAP.. but I have a larger purchase in mind.

cool.. I did not know any VG's had them
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I'm planning to get the S-AFC too. Probably my last mod...since I'd want to tune just right with my other mods. I was told by an experienced tuner that I'd see 8-15HP and mileage will increase. He said adding an intake should naturally lean out the air/fuel mixture...didn't ask him about the affect other exhaust components had on the ratio though. Looking at my exhaust tip under normal driving conditions, it appears to run just fine. When I do some constant heavy driving, the tip gets really sooty, probably running rich. Anyways, I was planning on getting the S-AFC if and after I get the MEVI.
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Originally posted by Kevin Wong
He said adding an intake should naturally lean out the air/fuel mixture...
An intake won't make the car run lean. It's MIGHT be possible to have enough na bolt ons to make the a/f lean but that would only happen when the car is in wot open loop program and you were flowing upwards toward 30% more airflow. But that would take an intake/headers/cams/larger TB Y pipe/cat back etc...
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Originally posted by 96BLUMAX
Wow sprint you know everthing.
only because i search
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Originally posted by bags533
cool.. I did not know any VG's had them
don't sleep on the well tuned VGs...we've got some secrets up our sleeves
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Originally posted by DA-MAX


don't sleep on the well tuned VGs...we've got some secrets up our sleeves
no I do not.. with Variable timing and intake.. I know there is some power there
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Originally posted by bags533


no I do not.. with Variable timing and intake.. I know there is some power there
no no, he said slow poke vg.
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Originally posted by nismo2020
no no, he said slow poke vg.
hmmmm...this particular VG was an auto and running with VQs...so slowpoke, I'm not sure about that one.

yeah the VG doesn't have VTC, but we DO have variable intake...Nissan didn't start being cheap and taking good things off of their motors until '95 and later.(j/k)
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i have seen the 3rd gen 1/4 mile times thread

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Originally posted by nismo2020


no no, he said slow poke vg.


haha.. yeah I mxed up VG & VE
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Originally posted by nismo2020
i have seen the 3rd gen 1/4 mile times thread
low blow man ...yeah, well we have our few quick ones though...
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Originally posted by bags533
haha.. yeah I mxed up VG & VE


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