now THIS is a turbo VQ
12-11-2002, 07:42 PM
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now THIS is a turbo VQ
check out the first couple pics:
http://www.pbase.com/tweak180sx/fisco&page=7
taken by boostaholic180sx on the freshalloy forums.
http://www.pbase.com/tweak180sx/fisco&page=7
taken by boostaholic180sx on the freshalloy forums.
I thought it was RB26?
12-11-2002, 10:35 PM
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check the last few pics on the bottom right of this page, its really is a VQ powered Skyline
http://www.pbase.com/tweak180sx/fisco&page=6
http://www.pbase.com/tweak180sx/fisco&page=6
12-11-2002, 11:45 PM
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12-12-2002, 12:17 AM
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12-12-2002, 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by MAXimumHP
Is the bottom end identical to ours then?
Is the bottom end identical to ours then?
The VQ30DETT was used in an R34 GT-R during the Japan Grand Touring Championship. Drivers reported that handling was greatly improved over the RB-powered versions. Unfortunately, the crank failed at around 540hp.
However, there is a rumor that for the upcoming GT-R, Cosworth will have a hand in strengthening the internals in the VQ.
12-12-2002, 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by Black VQ
There are VQ25 and VQ30DETs from the factory. They uses 9:1(?) pistons versus our 10:1 slugs, and uses the same strength rods(possibly a different length in the VQ25) as our VQs. The 3L was used in the Nissan Cedric and Gloria in Japan.
The VQ30DETT was used in an R34 GT-R during the Japan Grand Touring Championship. Drivers reported that handling was greatly improved over the RB-powered versions. Unfortunately, the crank failed at around 540hp. However, there is a rumor that for the upcoming GT-R, Cosworth will have a hand in strengthening the internals in the VQ.
There are VQ25 and VQ30DETs from the factory. They uses 9:1(?) pistons versus our 10:1 slugs, and uses the same strength rods(possibly a different length in the VQ25) as our VQs. The 3L was used in the Nissan Cedric and Gloria in Japan.
The VQ30DETT was used in an R34 GT-R during the Japan Grand Touring Championship. Drivers reported that handling was greatly improved over the RB-powered versions. Unfortunately, the crank failed at around 540hp.
However, there is a rumor that for the upcoming GT-R, Cosworth will have a hand in strengthening the internals in the VQ.
12-12-2002, 09:00 AM
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Um, no, it was all built for RWD, and won't fit in the maxima engine bay.
Originally posted by MaxSpeedSE
So does his mean thoes parts would fit in our motors, if we wanted to say build a motor?
So does his mean thoes parts would fit in our motors, if we wanted to say build a motor?
12-12-2002, 09:11 AM
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Originally posted by mtrai760
Um, no, it was all built for RWD, and won't fit in the maxima engine bay.
Um, no, it was all built for RWD, and won't fit in the maxima engine bay.
12-12-2002, 09:23 AM
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Even if you these turbo VQ parts fit, you know how much these would cost you? You would probably faint(provided you could even get someone to sell you the parts). Seems like the best plug and play factory internal parts would be the VQDET from the Cima. Tilley is the man on that one.
12-12-2002, 09:27 AM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Even if you these turbo VQ parts fit, you know how much these would cost you? You would probably faint(provided you could even get someone to sell you the parts). Seems like the best plug and play factory internal parts would be the VQDET from the Cima. Tilley is the man on that one.
Even if you these turbo VQ parts fit, you know how much these would cost you? You would probably faint(provided you could even get someone to sell you the parts). Seems like the best plug and play factory internal parts would be the VQDET from the Cima. Tilley is the man on that one.
12-12-2002, 09:31 AM
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To be honest, those parts in that turbo VQ engine probably cost 4-5 times more than the custom parts you can already get here. These racing teams sometimes have $100,000s of dollars in their budgets. And if you want a strong NA motor, many of these parts of this turbo VQ won't be for you.
Originally posted by MaxSpeedSE
yeah i know parts would be a arm and a leg, but getting custom parts im sure would be too...now that i have done my 5 speed converson, im starting my next project of building a motor...im going to take my time with it, and yeah i know it may take a year, but it worth it to me, becuase i dont want to run bost, almost making my motor out on stock internals...
yeah i know parts would be a arm and a leg, but getting custom parts im sure would be too...now that i have done my 5 speed converson, im starting my next project of building a motor...im going to take my time with it, and yeah i know it may take a year, but it worth it to me, becuase i dont want to run bost, almost making my motor out on stock internals...
12-12-2002, 09:35 AM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
To be honest, those parts in that turbo VQ engine probably cost 4-5 times more than the custom parts you can already get here. These racing teams sometimes have $100,000s of dollars in their budgets. And if you want a strong NA motor, many of these parts of this turbo VQ won't be for you.
To be honest, those parts in that turbo VQ engine probably cost 4-5 times more than the custom parts you can already get here. These racing teams sometimes have $100,000s of dollars in their budgets. And if you want a strong NA motor, many of these parts of this turbo VQ won't be for you.
Thanks for the help
-Chris
12-12-2002, 09:36 AM
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EDIT, I thought you were building your motor NA with my statement below... 
Like jeff said, all those parts will be WAY too expensive. They will probably all be one off custom made parts that will NEVER be sold to consumers. remember, these parts are being made for race engines. If your planning on sticking NA, and want more power, you might want to consider RAISING your compression, not lowering it. I believe Mardi is experimenting with putting the VQ35DE in his car... he said something about putting the VQ30 heads on the VQ35 block would yeild a 11.1 compression ratio, something to think about maybe...
Like jeff said, all those parts will be WAY too expensive. They will probably all be one off custom made parts that will NEVER be sold to consumers. remember, these parts are being made for race engines. If your planning on sticking NA, and want more power, you might want to consider RAISING your compression, not lowering it. I believe Mardi is experimenting with putting the VQ35DE in his car... he said something about putting the VQ30 heads on the VQ35 block would yeild a 11.1 compression ratio, something to think about maybe...
12-12-2002, 09:44 AM
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If that's the case, you might want to keep an eye on Mardi's plan before you start ordering custom parts. VQ35 block,internals, and heads, with VQ30DE cams to elimintate the variable cam timing, might work out better and cheaper than a custom VQ30.
Originally posted by MaxSpeedSE
No I plan on building the motor FOR boost....but you do have a good point, parts would be alot , and shiping overseas is another things...i guess my only option is custom... just hate the waite
Thanks for the help
-Chris
No I plan on building the motor FOR boost....but you do have a good point, parts would be alot , and shiping overseas is another things...i guess my only option is custom... just hate the waite
Thanks for the help
-Chris
12-12-2002, 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by mtrai760
If that's the case, you might want to keep an eye on Mardi's plan before you start ordering custom parts. VQ35 block,internals, and heads, with VQ30DE cams to elimintate the variable cam timing, might work out better and cheaper than a custom VQ30.
If that's the case, you might want to keep an eye on Mardi's plan before you start ordering custom parts. VQ35 block,internals, and heads, with VQ30DE cams to elimintate the variable cam timing, might work out better and cheaper than a custom VQ30.
12-12-2002, 10:43 AM
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Originally posted by mtrai760
If that's the case, you might want to keep an eye on Mardi's plan before you start ordering custom parts. VQ35 block,internals, and heads, with VQ30DE cams to elimintate the variable cam timing, might work out better and cheaper than a custom VQ30.
If that's the case, you might want to keep an eye on Mardi's plan before you start ordering custom parts. VQ35 block,internals, and heads, with VQ30DE cams to elimintate the variable cam timing, might work out better and cheaper than a custom VQ30.
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12-13-2002, 05:54 AM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
To be honest, those parts in that turbo VQ engine probably cost 4-5 times more than the custom parts you can already get here.
To be honest, those parts in that turbo VQ engine probably cost 4-5 times more than the custom parts you can already get here.
If you want a lower compression than the 9:1 Cima pistons, you can get 'em. I think someone was looking at getting 8.5:1 pistons from Arias before. If you want longer/shorter rods, you can get them, and probably with more strength too.
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