Frank Fontaine

I walked around the Nissan lot this afternoon, and on the Murano and 350Z, the "dual exhausts" come out of 1 muffler! No wonder the pipes are so close together.

Nissan definitely keeps the prices down which is probably a good thing for now. Track model auto Z was mid 33's, Murano was 34's. Looking at the Murano's rear suspension, I think Nissan is getting the message. Independent rear on an AWD is a nice feature.

Tanman

Yep, not a true dual exhaust, just dual exhaust tips for looks. Maybe some aftermarket exhaust makers will space the tips further apart, in conjunction with a body kit manufacturer who will make the cut-outs fit the wider spacing of the tips.

CKNY

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not for nothing but i think it's more a matter of design than because "nissan kept prices low and used one muffler with dual tips". they could have made the tips come out the sides of the car if they wanted to. having one muffler had nothing to do with the spacing of the tips.

Kashoggio

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yeah this is not new... there is no room for a real dual in the 350z. One thing nice about the muffler is that it has a air spliter.

N34JZ

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http://www.veilside.com/veilsideusa/...an/350Zv1.html wow

ILoveMyMax

wow is right..damn thats hot

gtr_rider

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THis is the tanabe exhaust for the 350z and you can see how it looks without the car covering it...

Jeff92se

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Maybe it's because of space? I don't thing the Vettes and Porsches of the world are worrying about cost but yet they have duals out of one muffler?

SkylineGTR

Vettes have 2 mufflers, or at least the Z06 does.

ReichMax97

Do the 2k2 V6 Altimas have true duals? My friend who's Dad owns one swears that they do.

irvine78

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hot damn those titanium exhausts must cost a couple houses!!

CKNY

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no - they split somwhere after the cat

Kojiro_FtT

Most cars with "dual exhaust" are fake. Event he ones with 2 mufflers.

Mishmosh

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What exactly is considered bonafide true dual exhausts? Twin downpipes from the exhaust headers or can the split be even further down from that? Also, is there still any performance advantage in having duals if it splits off after the cat (like most non-sports cars have it ie. Altima, TLS, AccordV6, GrandAM GT, GTP, etc) or is it purely for show? ...because when these things rust out or if you want to go aftermarket, the replacement costs are a LOT higher.

phenryiv1

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Not trying to sound like a d!ck, but, yeah, that is a great idea...



If you never leave pavement. Ask any REAL 4wd vehicle owner about IRS and they will say it is crap. Read any Jeep BB and you will see that they all hate the rear suspension design on the Liberty. It sux.

HOWEVER, you are correct that on a typical AWD system, IRS is not bad for road-handling and 99% of whar SUVs see in terms of driving duty. But it is a lot more expensive to manufacture and fix.

I will take a DANA rear (or even a ChryCo 8.25) over IRS anyday.

CaLSoNiC

A 3.5L just doesnt have enough displacement to support real duals. I mean throw a Hemi in a Maxima... youll need dualies and a REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY big wallet.

Frank Fontaine

Hmmm....so I guess this dual exhaust thing is really a matter of style these days. I suppose even Audi is not immune, the 1.8T and the 3.0 both have the nice looking duals with EXPENSIVE mufflers. Seems like the V6 Accord was the first cheap car to have 2 mufflers/dual exhaust, unless you wanna go way back to the Duratech V6 Taurus (1997?). Obviously Ford is not gonna do it for looks alone considering they removed the rear disc brakes to save on production costs.

I am a bit surprised that the Altima V6 has legit ones and the 350Z does not. It was baffling why the tips were so close together, now we know it's just for looks? Why can't Nissan just charge the customer for real stuff like that and gas struts for the hood? If the customer is sophisticated enough they do realize that quality is not free.