Maximam

Someone posted this at LS1.com

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...hreadid=234227

Who was it?

gtr_rider

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Chris91SE

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Kevincleff

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Why would someone do that. Pretty funny though. Those things are sickly fast.

Maximam

maximadave

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what was he thinkin'?

Maximax2

What IS an LS1, anyway?

MaxWolf

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geo1317

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And the guy in the post uses this. Boooooooo.

Its a sedan not a sports car, you gotta think before you act, let see a V6 sedan vs. a V8 coupe. Unless you got your Max boosted dont even bother.

slickrick

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i believe its the engines in v8 camaros, firebirds, and vettes.

POPO6SPD

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The LS1 is a 5.7L (350 c.i.) V-8 putting anywhere from 310-335 Horse at the crank, stock(depending on the induction/exhaust set-up) GM started using the LS1 in 98 as a replacement for the LT1.

DTR Maxima

they are quick but i would hardly say "sickly fast." its a pushrod
V-8 putting a litte over 300hp at the crank. not that big of a deal, i think those engines are over rated, although they mod really easily for fast speeds. my friends auto SS 2k1 ran a 13.84 and thats not much quicker than a well driven 350Z, S4 or many other cars for that matter, but i will admit, bang for the buck is excellent

Maximam

Try about 350+ at the crank stock. We are putting down 305+ RWHP stock.

Just the opposite is true, they are underrated from the factory.

I run a 13.76 @ 105mph at 2100ft altitude, that is because of my horrible 60ft and the elevation. Still 105 trap is decent. Sea level times are very low 13s @ 107+. A 350Z is happy to break 100mph!

You are right they do mod well. Your point with the S4 and the 350Z are horrible comparisons. Even owners of 350Zs know their limits with us. S4? bring it on.

ericdwong

Another LS1 owner here....the engines are underrated. My Corvette comes with 345 hp and 350 ft lb stock. And thats not even the LS6 motor which is the z06 engine... With just a few bolt ons- my car will will run 12s (although some C5 owners have reported hitting high 12s stock). Just remember there are many full interior street driven 10 and even 9 second LS1 cars :-)

SkylineGTR

LS1 Camaro and Firebirds are just purpose built drag racers, and i'll hate them till i die. The Vette i can respect, its damn fast in a straight and is damn good at handling as well, but its still a pushrod.

Maximam

I agree the F-body isn't the best handling car in the world but look at the SCCA and tell me they don't hold their own. See who is winning T2 competing against M3s, Supras, Boxter S, Cobras and S2000 for example. So when you say "purpose built drag racers" what do you mean? The Maxima has a worse suspension IMO.

Pushrod? Well I have been building OHC cars for years but that does not make me only loyal to them. As you can see I own a OHV (pushrod)car as well. Each to his own. I respect cars for what they are and give credit to people who are a real car enthusiast. OHC? OHV? who cares.

ericdwong

Not only that OHV motors are a ton easier to work on internally then the damn DOHC motors.

DTR Maxima

im not saying their horsepower numbers are overrated, many camaro/firebird owners with the LS1 have dynoed more hp than the factory states. i was reffering to the fact that everyone thinks camaros are so unbelievably fast, and trust me i know all about american muscle, my dad used to restore them, all i am saying is that, what you get stock from a camaro should be expected its no great thing that u can run a high 13 in a V-8 pushrod coupe, but like i said, they are a good bang for the buck, other than reliability, i have had my fair share of experiences with camaros.

and i know the 350Z and others cars arnt in the same league with the camaro, and yes you are right a camaro will in almost all cases take a 350Z, stock for stock, but the point i was making with that was that its not that "great" of an engine. although i will always give much respect to the vette, they are great cars

and i dont think the camaro handles that bad, it should be better, but a lot of its weight is up front so it goes hard into turns with a lot of understeer in my experience, but the handlings pretty good and the torque/power makes up for it.

lophix

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its at times like this i imagine what if nissan had made a v-8.....
we are comparing a 4 door family sedan to a 2 door dedicated sports car. not a fair comparison. give the max(or 350z for that matter) a v-8 stock and take off 2 doors and we're even. Then we can actually start talking.

DTR Maxima

i wasnt comparing the maxima to the camaro in any way, thats stupid, they are totaly different, i was just simply stating my opinion on the camaro V8 engines, and as far as the 350Z i was just using that as an example showing that N/A V6's are only putting down 15-20 less hp than a camaro, to prove a point on why i dont believe their engine to be substantially superior. but torque is a whole other story. but i would also like to see what nissan could do with a V8 powered coupe.

Maximam

DTR,

You have your facts all wrong. Stock 350Zs are putting down 230 RWHP. Stock LS1s are putting down 305 RWHP. That is 75hp not 20.

Lets not talk about the 100 more foot lbs of torque than the 350Z!

Sounds as if you are mixing up factory advertised horsepower (at flywheel) with real world (rear wheel horsepower).

Maximam

Add two more cylinders to the 350Zs V-6 and you would have 304.91 RWHP!!!

jemartin

Actually the Cubic inches is 346. They are extremely powerful engines but I think I'd rather have an LT1, much more versatile in that you can boost it. I do like the 98-02 Firebirds though

Street Reeper

I don't understand why people think that a camaro handles bad. In 96 it beat an all wheel drive talon in a C&D handling comparison. It's weight distribtion is much better than a front wheel drive car; where are the transmission and engine in a front wheel drive car?

Weight Distribution F/R
Honda Civic Si: 61/39%
Acura Integra GS-R: 64/34%
Mitsubishi Eclipse GT: 62/38%
VW Jetta: 61/39%
Toyota Celica GT: 63/37%

'02 Comaro Z28: 54/46%
'02 Mustang GT: 55/45%

kratz74

I love racing you F body guys when I'm on my bike. Your sooo cocky

Maximam

I know a guy with a TT LS1 that will race you on your bike.

ericdwong

I too have a sport bike, but I'm actually considering getting rid of it and putting the $ towards a supercharger system.

I have one video of a turbo trans-am racing sport bikes on the street and the TA was pulling away. I have another video where a twin-turbo C5 corvette runs with and then passes a Suz. Hyabusa bike, its pretty insane. Now only that the cars are alot safer then the bikes are.

Maximam

Thank you!

kratz74

I'll take that race and the title to his car.. Mwwwhhhhaaaahahahaha..... guy like that with the TT Vette will say, I'll only race you on a roll on starting at "x" mph" blah blah blah. You know there are turbo Hayabusas that make 300-450 hp and weigh less than 500 lbs.

You F body guys are still cocky though

Street Reeper

I think it was motortrend that tested the new GSX-R 1000 against a Z06. One test was 0-100mph and back to zero. The GSX-R reached a hundred, stopped, and the driver was taking his helmut off before the Z06 even reached 100.

I rode motocross until college, and am looking forward to getting back into it after school is done. My graduation present to myself will probably be a nice used GSX-R 750.

I'd put my money on the bike from a stop, unless the guy comes with a Lingenfelter Vette, 0-60 in under 2 seconds.

(June 02' Motortrend compares Lingenfelter's new 800 hp Vette to a F/A-18 hornet. Lingenfelter's Vette did the 1/4 in 9.24 and 0-60 in 1.97 sec)

Maximam

What 60ft does a Busa cut anyway? I hope better than 1.5.

kratz74

Actually its is better than a 1.5.... Stock hayabusas can go 1.5 and deep into the 9s. I stalled once on the line restarted and still got a 2.0 60 ft. That 1.5 is with regearing to top 225 mph. So shorter gearing and a wheelie bar and you are looking at 1.2-1.3 60 ' times.

POPO6SPD

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Woops, I knew it was 346 but screwed up the post. A buddy of mine has a 00 Trans-Am and the car is FAST, granted it is lightly modded; Thank god I have got the bike, otherwise I would have to boost the hell out of my poor Maxima to play with him.

POPO6SPD

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I think if you watch the video closely, the lead bike (I think it was an older YZF 1000) was in a wheelie at the start of the "race". I am no expert at wheeling but I know that at most the guy was probably on it 50-60% throttle to keep it up "safetly" at those speeds. Regardless, that TA was really fast, but I'd like to see them go at it again when the rider wasen't screwing around. Who knows I could be wrong but...

Street Reeper

Could you post a link to the video?

POPO6SPD

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Sorry, I am not sure the exact location of it, but try www.racingflix.com

ru4real

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Too bad Nissan doesn't make a 450Z packing the Q45 engine making 340+ horsepower. I wonder how high they could tune it NA.

Maximam

They will save the added weight with a TT 3.5 I want a TT G35 Coupe!!!