What gear do you guys miss??
#1
What gear do you guys miss??
Yeah, im wondering, i seem to miss 4th, and only 4th when i miss a gear. It happened TWICE today when i was trapping myself at a local 1/4 spot (i trapped at 98!!!!) and when i was racing my cousins '03 Accord V-6 coupe (dont worry, i still took it)...
What gear do you guys miss?
Eric
What gear do you guys miss?
Eric
#4
Originally posted by SonicDust187
I dont know how you can miss 4th but I miss 3rd on a 2 to 3 shift.
I dont know how you can miss 4th but I miss 3rd on a 2 to 3 shift.
#5
Originally posted by Newman
when i miss a shift its almost always the 2-3 shift. i went WOT for the first time in a long time today and missed 3rd.
when i miss a shift its almost always the 2-3 shift. i went WOT for the first time in a long time today and missed 3rd.
#7
i missed the 2 to 3 shift twice at the track...and punched my stereo cause my hand slipped off the shift ****.
i think the 3 to 4 shift is the easiest one...don't know how that gets messed, its a straight shift with no angles.
i guess we have different weaknesses...
i think the 3 to 4 shift is the easiest one...don't know how that gets messed, its a straight shift with no angles.
i guess we have different weaknesses...
#8
i dont know how i miss 4th gear either, it seems its cocked to the right, like theres a kink in the gear or something, but i never miss any other gear, i nail the 1-2 and 2-3 shift like a charm!
lol, jeph, yeah i used to miss 5th when i switched form 5sp to auto, now im back to 5sp, cant live without it!
anyone else?
lol, jeph, yeah i used to miss 5th when i switched form 5sp to auto, now im back to 5sp, cant live without it!
anyone else?
#12
2-3 shift: palm open, fingers resting on the passenger side of the ****, push straight up = no missed 3rd gear.
3-4 shift: thumb pointed down, fingers wrapped around the front of the ****, pull straight back = no missed 4th gear
This is the way the pros shift, fellas. Do it all the time, even at part-throttle driving. You'll also notice how much easier the car goes into gear.
Class is excused.
Dave
3-4 shift: thumb pointed down, fingers wrapped around the front of the ****, pull straight back = no missed 4th gear
This is the way the pros shift, fellas. Do it all the time, even at part-throttle driving. You'll also notice how much easier the car goes into gear.
Class is excused.
Dave
#14
Third gear should get you through the quarter mile. Why would you waste the time upshifting to fourth? Third's good for nearly 100 mph, and with only the mods listed in your signature, there's no way your car is going that fast at the end of the trap.
#15
Originally posted by Dave B
2-3 shift: palm open, fingers resting on the passenger side of the ****, push straight up = no missed 3rd gear.
3-4 shift: thumb pointed down, fingers wrapped around the front of the ****, pull straight back = no missed 4th gear
This is the way the pros shift, fellas. Do it all the time, even at part-throttle driving. You'll also notice how much easier the car goes into gear.
Class is excused.
Dave
2-3 shift: palm open, fingers resting on the passenger side of the ****, push straight up = no missed 3rd gear.
3-4 shift: thumb pointed down, fingers wrapped around the front of the ****, pull straight back = no missed 4th gear
This is the way the pros shift, fellas. Do it all the time, even at part-throttle driving. You'll also notice how much easier the car goes into gear.
Class is excused.
Dave
dude, that is exactly how I do it now that I think about it. cool. I never noticed it until you described how to do it. I must be a pro. j/k
and the first gear i ever missed in my car was 3rd. its been a long time since i missed a gear now that i think about it. :knock on wood:
tbirdrob:
and 3rd doesn't take you up to 100. i finish the 1/4 at bout 91-92 mph and 3rd gear is almost at redline.
#16
Originally posted by tbirdrob
Third gear should get you through the quarter mile. Why would you waste the time upshifting to fourth? Third's good for nearly 100 mph, and unless you have some serious mods, your car isn't going that fast at the end of the trap.
Third gear should get you through the quarter mile. Why would you waste the time upshifting to fourth? Third's good for nearly 100 mph, and unless you have some serious mods, your car isn't going that fast at the end of the trap.
Dave
#23
In a year of driving the Maxima I've only missed gears twice. Once was a full-throttle 2-3 where I got stuck between the gates. The other was the 4-5 just the other day running a WRX down 270.
I'll have to try out Dave's tip
I'll have to try out Dave's tip
#24
Originally posted by Dev
i missed the 2 to 3 shift twice at the track...and punched my stereo cause my hand slipped off the shift ****.
i think the 3 to 4 shift is the easiest one...don't know how that gets messed, its a straight shift with no angles.
i guess we have different weaknesses...
i missed the 2 to 3 shift twice at the track...and punched my stereo cause my hand slipped off the shift ****.
i think the 3 to 4 shift is the easiest one...don't know how that gets messed, its a straight shift with no angles.
i guess we have different weaknesses...
#25
Originally posted by carnal_c30
2-1 shift for street 'situations' havent grinded gears but sometimes as I'm sure everyone knows 1 is a tough lil sumbish occasionally
2-1 shift for street 'situations' havent grinded gears but sometimes as I'm sure everyone knows 1 is a tough lil sumbish occasionally
Double-clutch:
Clutch in, shifter into neutral, release clutch, clutch in, blip the throttle while moving shifter to desired lower gear, release the clutch.
Dave
#26
Originally posted by Dave B
Taking 3rd all the way to redline will only make you slower.
Taking 3rd all the way to redline will only make you slower.
See Steve's post:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=188758
#27
Well, I usually don't have much trouble in the lower gears, but sometimes when I'm cruising and not paying FULL attention, I may end up going to 4th gear from 5th instead of to 6th as planned.
Luckily, this is when I'm cruising, so the rpms are relatively low, and the misshift doesn't make the engine go into redline.
The problem with the 5-6 shift is that unless you keep a little sideways pressure on the shifter, it will naturally try to slide into 4th. Granted, I've only been driving manual for like 3 months now, and this misshift doesn't really happen anymore, but it used to when I first started.
Another interesting question along this line would be--which gear do you miss on DOWNshifts? I'm sure some people have had some pretty terrible mishaps on downshifting at one time or another. Me, I've done 6-2 instead of 6-4. Again, wasn't revving the engine high at the time, so didn't end up causing any harm. Nowadays, I can usually tell if the shifter went into the wrong gate before I let the clutch up, so I can correct the shift without causing damage.
Luckily, this is when I'm cruising, so the rpms are relatively low, and the misshift doesn't make the engine go into redline.
The problem with the 5-6 shift is that unless you keep a little sideways pressure on the shifter, it will naturally try to slide into 4th. Granted, I've only been driving manual for like 3 months now, and this misshift doesn't really happen anymore, but it used to when I first started.
Another interesting question along this line would be--which gear do you miss on DOWNshifts? I'm sure some people have had some pretty terrible mishaps on downshifting at one time or another. Me, I've done 6-2 instead of 6-4. Again, wasn't revving the engine high at the time, so didn't end up causing any harm. Nowadays, I can usually tell if the shifter went into the wrong gate before I let the clutch up, so I can correct the shift without causing damage.
#32
i guess i should clarify, what i meant about missing 4th is that i dont have the gear engaged all the way, most of the time i let the clutch in and out before its in the 4th gear gate...Now so much that i miss the gate completely...
eric
eric
#33
Originally posted by 99Maxima5sp
i guess i should clarify, what i meant about missing 4th is that i dont have the gear engaged all the way, most of the time i let the clutch in and out before its in the 4th gear gate...Now so much that i miss the gate completely...
eric
i guess i should clarify, what i meant about missing 4th is that i dont have the gear engaged all the way, most of the time i let the clutch in and out before its in the 4th gear gate...Now so much that i miss the gate completely...
eric
#34
Originally posted by ejj
No, it won't.
See Steve's post:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=188758
No, it won't.
See Steve's post:
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=188758
1-2 6500
2-3 6200
3-4 6000
I've experimented with this and if I hold all gears to redline (with the USIM), my ET/MPH was higher 14.8s@94mph on average. Shifting at the correct rpms dropped my average down to lower 14.7s@96mph. That's shifting earlier plus having an extra shift. It was worth ~.15 seconds and 2mph on average. If that's not proof, I don't know what is
Dave
#35
Originally posted by Dave B
If that's not proof, I don't know what is
If that's not proof, I don't know what is
Note that I have to shift into 4th no matter what, its just a question of when.
Shifting 3 to 4 around 6k RPM usually gets me 14.7's. Holding 3rd until the redline _then_ shifting nets me 14.5's (both NA of course).
Bottom line, each car and driver is different. Nobobdy can make blanket statements that if you shift at certin points you'll get the best time. Everyone has to try for themselves and come away with what works best for them.
#37
Originally posted by ejj
When I mis-shift racing, 99% of the time it isn't because of the shifter, its re-engaging the clutch before the gear is fully engaged.
It makes a yummy grinding sound!
When I mis-shift racing, 99% of the time it isn't because of the shifter, its re-engaging the clutch before the gear is fully engaged.
It makes a yummy grinding sound!
#38
To supplement Dave - I've found the key to not missing 2-3 shift is to shift STRAIGHT FORWARD.
To do that, make sure your elbow is away from your body.
I used to miss 2-3 and couldn't figure out why until I got the STS. Once I installed the STS at its shortest setting, I found that I had lots of problems with the 2-3 shift.
I was shifting at an angle - maybe towards 2:00 on the clock - because of where my elbow was and because I was being lazy.
Once I made certain that my arm was basically parallel to the cupholder - I stopped missing the shift.
To do that, make sure your elbow is away from your body.
I used to miss 2-3 and couldn't figure out why until I got the STS. Once I installed the STS at its shortest setting, I found that I had lots of problems with the 2-3 shift.
I was shifting at an angle - maybe towards 2:00 on the clock - because of where my elbow was and because I was being lazy.
Once I made certain that my arm was basically parallel to the cupholder - I stopped missing the shift.
#40
Thats exactly how I was taught to do it. Feels so smooth. I don't even have a 5-speed. I see people who have driven manuals for years and they do the pistol grip through all the gears. Ick!
1-2 shift: You just hook the front of the shifter with your palm and flick your wrist down. You don't actually grip the shifter. Actually, you never actually grip the shifter unless you're going from neutral to 1st. Mostly, your thumb stays out of the whole mix. No thumbs!
ZuM
1-2 shift: You just hook the front of the shifter with your palm and flick your wrist down. You don't actually grip the shifter. Actually, you never actually grip the shifter unless you're going from neutral to 1st. Mostly, your thumb stays out of the whole mix. No thumbs!
ZuM
Originally posted by Dave B
2-3 shift: palm open, fingers resting on the passenger side of the ****, push straight up = no missed 3rd gear.
3-4 shift: thumb pointed down, fingers wrapped around the front of the ****, pull straight back = no missed 4th gear
This is the way the pros shift, fellas. Do it all the time, even at part-throttle driving. You'll also notice how much easier the car goes into gear.
Class is excused.
Dave
2-3 shift: palm open, fingers resting on the passenger side of the ****, push straight up = no missed 3rd gear.
3-4 shift: thumb pointed down, fingers wrapped around the front of the ****, pull straight back = no missed 4th gear
This is the way the pros shift, fellas. Do it all the time, even at part-throttle driving. You'll also notice how much easier the car goes into gear.
Class is excused.
Dave