hey guys
We just finished installin' rotors and brake pads in the front. In process i managed to break 2 studs from the same wheel

anyways, now when I drive, there is a grinding some coming from the one of the wheel (with 2 broen studs). Is it b/c of that that's causing the grinding sound? or is it b/c we didn't install rotors & brake pads right?

thanks

Ok ok, hold on. U mean the studs as in the 1z the wheelz go on Dude wtf r u doin driving man. Go get ur ride up on the jack stands again or just get it to a shop to get the studs replaced. U have to get the broken 1z punched out with and air gun and have two new 1z punched in. I personally woulndnt feel safe driving around like that man. The studs dont cost much at all, u just have to take the side that has the broken studs apart again. Just wondering how did u break them anyway?

It is going to be hard to tell where the grinding noise is coming from when you have 2 broken studs. Get those fixed and then see if the brakes are still making noise. If so, we can take it from there.

mtrai760 drove around for a year with a broken stud.

The grinding sound is most likely that flimsy aluminum plate right behind the rotor rubbing....just bend it back with your hands, and you'll be fine.

IanS

1 broken stud is 1 thing, but two is kinda pushing it. Id get the studs done first then if the grinding is still present id look into the brakes for install error.

Oops, read it wrong.

Get those studs fixed, man!

especially the 2 broken studs are next to each other

i just feel so frustrated, i mean i know i save money by doing this DIY, but than i just.....broke stuff

Don't panic - studs are cheap - I've broken 3 in the last 6 months.

Just take a hammer and whack the old ones out, put the new ones in with some washers over them and then tigheten a lug down over the washers (with the wheel off still) to press them in, then put the wheel back on....15 minutes tops.

thanks, i needed that confidence boost. just feel frustrated, hopefully it'll be a better day tomorrow.

btw, iansw i used to live in bellevue for like 3 yrs. I love that place, hopefully when it comes time to apply to dental school i can get into UW and go back to seattle

I love Seattle too, but the unemployment rate is 2nd in the nation, and there's hippies protesting the war everywhere.....Seattlites LOVE to protest.

I'm getting a bumper sticker that says "STOP IRAQ NOW!"

Dude its no big deal, and yeah studs are cheap. I just want to know how in the world u broke em. Ive done dozens of brake jobs and never have I even come close to breakin a stud while doing the brake job. Ive broken one taking it off with the impact gun, but that was due to the last person either putting it on wrong, or they torqued it down waaaaay too much. If u broke it in this way its understandable.

well b/c last time i put my wheels on, the stupid azz me tighten 'em too much. So i had all kinds of trouble trying to taking 'em off. anyways, at one point it just stop turning, so the only way for me to take the wheels off is to break the studs

Ouch, alright that makes sense. I though u somehow broke them while changing the brakes 4 some reason. Well if u want to change the studs urself, its not too bad. GoodLuck man

Oohh Raahh! I'd give my left, uh, tire, to go back and finish the job. People have the utmost freedom to protest anything they want in the U.S. This is a good thing. But this freedom (which is not present in many countries) was paid for in blood. It must be protected at all costs, or we will become like other countries' "subjects" who live in fear of their own government. Protesters usually enjoy going home to a hot meal, dry house, and warm bed at the end of their busy day. The U.S. troops sitting in a big sand box right now don't have that option (been there, done that the first go around). Not to mention the wives, husbands, and children who are missing their husbands, wives, and parents because a 2-bit dictator refuses to listen to the world (17 times in 12 years so far). This same dictator has gassed other countries, his own people, and U.S. (and allied) troops in Desert Storm. Not to mention the raping, pillaging, and burning of another country. All U.S. troops protecting our freedoms have my sincere "thank you" and have earned my utmost respect. "For those who have fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know-author unknown".

OK, off my soapbox. If you have 2 studs broken on a wheel, wouldn't this eventually lead to warped rotors (especially if next to each other)? Not to mention the safety issue. I've broken one of mine before, and they are very easy to replace. Like already posted, remove wheel, bang the broken ones out, insert new one from behind, place a washer on it, then put a lug nut on it and tighten to "pull" the stud into place. Replace wheel. Total time=15 minutes. Total price=less than $5.00.

Dave

My family has more boys in the Marine Corps than any family in the last 20 years (5) - My dad did 3 tours in Vietnam and 1 in Korea at age 16 - 2 of my brothers got sent to the Gulf War, 1 to Haiti, and 1 to Somalia.....I feel ya man.

All of your points I totally agree with.

But I think my view is even moreso that there are people being raped, tortured, gassed, and killed en mass just for thinking (not even necessarily speaking) their wishes to be free in the world - people suffering because of 1 man and his warped mind. It's our responsibility to help. Call it imperialism or whatever, but the faster we get kooks like him off the face of the map, the faster the entire world will live without suffering.

"The point of war isn't to die for your country, but to make the other poor bastard die for HIS country." - Patton

- Back on topic - Yeah, it's easy to do.

New rotors and pads need about 300 miles to break in properly. The grinding you hear is probably pad on fresh rotor. My Stillen brake setup took about a tank of gas to become completely silent.

was it like a consatntly grinding sound?
mine sounded like it'll grind once for every revolution of the wheel. don't know if that made once. in another word, there will be grinding sound everytie wheel finish one turn.

Sort of, I could hear the pad, especially the rears rubbing slightly against the rotor. I wouldn't call it a grinding sound, more like sand paper on metal sound.

Your description, every revolution you hear it, was just what mine did.

1 more problem we are having is that after clamping piston the brake fluid raises, but it never went down after i tested out the brakes for about 10 mins
did we do something wrong?

Thats not a problem, that called displacement. You pushed the fluid in the brake caliper cylinder back into the master cylinder. Now with new pads, the caliper doesn't come back out as far as it was, so most of the fluid stays in the master cylinder.

You should have completely flushed the old fluid out and put new in. Brake fluid is hydroscopic and absorbs moisture which will contaminate your brake system from the inside out. The fluid should be changed every few years or at every brake job. It's excellent preventitive maintenance.

would it cause any problems if I don't change it right now?

No.

you guys broke studs?!?!?! Sounds like the lugs were massively overtorqued.

Yep, that's why now when I take my car to a shop, I always get it back from them and loosen and re-torque each lug with a torque wrench.

Those bastards torque to 150lbs sometimes with those air tools - way too much.

Well thats not reall their fault, I mean they have other cars to get to and instead of taking a few min double checking with a torque wrench what the correct lbs are, it just takes a few sec and its all done with an impact gun. I personally have learned how many hits it takes to get to a certain ft-lbs. Its all a matter of feel and getting used to it, now every time I use the gun the lbs usually end up anywere from 50-80lbs. Ive checked with a torque wrench to confirm this but yeah ur right if the tech sits there and puts pressure on the lug nut for a few sec, its gonna go way over 150.

Well, if you know better, you would think the techs would.....


So yeah, it's their fault. I don't really care anymore, since I know better than they do, and can quickly rectify it before i go driving aorund and make it worse.

(And that's pretty sad that I know better than they do - they're the ones that go to school)

I cant argue with u. U do have a a really good point.
BTW they do know better, most just dont give a damn. Its faster that way.

dont make a big deal about it, remove the brake calipers hammer the broken studs out and hammer the new studs back in place. They cost about $3.00-$7.00 a piece @ the dealership