Warpspeed Y-pipe update
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Well, I installed it Wednesday night, and have been driving hard all week to test it out. There is definetly a power gain, not dissimilar to the Cattman SS pipe. One very distinctive feature is that it is loud. It sounds like I am running a turbo now. I like the sound, as it is only audible under WOT. Just cruising on the interstate, I can barely hear it of I turn the radio off. The flex section is actually flexible, like factory. This was also the best fitting pipe I have installed. I am supposed to dyno either this weekend or this coming week. I'll post results of the before/after dyno charts. Also, the collector pipe appears to be a little more restrictive then the Cattman SS, and the welds aren't as pretty. However, I also have an experimental pipe, and I am sure that they will improve the design. There are no clearance problems with this pipe either, and it sits way above the cross member. I will post pics when I get my camera back.
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Bill, this has nothing to do with the y-pipe, but I'm wondering do you have any pics of your car with the Cuzo sidemarkers? I just installed mine, and it looks great. I just want to do a comparison on how mine look compared to yours. And I put hyperwhite bulbs in, it looks better. However, I got a set of amber bulbs(cheapo ones from Auto Zone) just in case.
Also, did you put any type of special adhesive or something that will make it hard for a potential thief to steal your sidemarkers? That's the only worry I have now. Thanks.
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slick,
definitely keep us posted! can you describe the sound? is it a deep growl or more of a drone?
I want more details! How does it feel? Did you get SS or aluminized?
Thanks!
PS just as good as cattman or stillen, you think?
definitely keep us posted! can you describe the sound? is it a deep growl or more of a drone?
I want more details! How does it feel? Did you get SS or aluminized?
Thanks!
PS just as good as cattman or stillen, you think?
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I'm not sure about the headers ![Big Grin](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
As far as the sound, it sounds exactly like a Turbo. It whines more then anything else with a little low rumble. It is also only noticable when your accelerating. I can really feel an increase in the powerband around 4400 RPM. Second and first aren't much faster, but 70-120 is a lot faster then before. I am pretty sure that it is SS. IMHO, I think the build quality is about the same as Cattman. However, this pipe fit better then Stillen or Cattman. I didn't have to force it to bolt on to the car. Everything lined up perfectly.
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As far as the sound, it sounds exactly like a Turbo. It whines more then anything else with a little low rumble. It is also only noticable when your accelerating. I can really feel an increase in the powerband around 4400 RPM. Second and first aren't much faster, but 70-120 is a lot faster then before. I am pretty sure that it is SS. IMHO, I think the build quality is about the same as Cattman. However, this pipe fit better then Stillen or Cattman. I didn't have to force it to bolt on to the car. Everything lined up perfectly.
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Originally posted by Maxima97GLE
Where can I get one of these Y-Pipes?
Where can I get one of these Y-Pipes?
whoa! sounds really good. non-stainless works here
#9
I see they have 2 versions: 1 aluminum and one SS. The SS is $100 more. Does the SS outlast the aluminum? What are any other differences? ANy warranties against rust, welds breaking, etc??? If my wife keps her job, I may get one of these bad boys. If she doesn't-I'll have to float her butt and no new toys 4 me for a while. :-(
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In response to the last post about WarpSpeed only making parts for the Maxima's and Jeep Grand Cherokees. We picked these particular vehicles because we drive them and there is a market for intake/exhaust components. Half the battle when designing exhaust components is having access to the car you want to make a product for.We are a small company that is growing.We will be adding new products as soon as we finish up with the Maximas and Jeeps.
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WarpSpeed questions
I would suggest you do a search. The topic of differences between the 2 metals has been answered in detail by Dallas (BMFJEEP) on several occcasions. As far as warrenties go, did you check out our web site? There is a page that speaks to this question directly. Dan WSP
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Got the post regarding Alum v. SS materials. Sounds like the difference is just with corrosion resistance but any such a claim is merely implied by BMFJEEP. As far as the warranty...
"For a period of 2 years from purchase date WarpSpeedPerformance, at our discretion; will resolve issues of defects in materials or workmanship in our fabricated "Y" pipes and mid pipes. "
The warranty is expressly limited to DEFECTS IN MATERIALS OR WORKMANSHIP only. Therefore if a weld breaks, your company agrees to repair or replace the product. There appears to be no corrosion warranty which worries me a little bit. I live in IA and we get lost of snow (sand and salt thereafter) so it sounds like I'd be a candidate for a ss pipe. But I am hesitant now w/o a corrosion warranty for at least 3 years or so.
I am very happy to see you guys create and market aftermarket parts for Maxima owners and would like to support you by purchasing one or more of your products. Since you are a new company with limited if any history regarding the life of your products, I believe you should consider adding or including a warranty against corrosion for a specified period of time for the Aluminum or SS pipe. Just my 2 cents...
"For a period of 2 years from purchase date WarpSpeedPerformance, at our discretion; will resolve issues of defects in materials or workmanship in our fabricated "Y" pipes and mid pipes. "
The warranty is expressly limited to DEFECTS IN MATERIALS OR WORKMANSHIP only. Therefore if a weld breaks, your company agrees to repair or replace the product. There appears to be no corrosion warranty which worries me a little bit. I live in IA and we get lost of snow (sand and salt thereafter) so it sounds like I'd be a candidate for a ss pipe. But I am hesitant now w/o a corrosion warranty for at least 3 years or so.
I am very happy to see you guys create and market aftermarket parts for Maxima owners and would like to support you by purchasing one or more of your products. Since you are a new company with limited if any history regarding the life of your products, I believe you should consider adding or including a warranty against corrosion for a specified period of time for the Aluminum or SS pipe. Just my 2 cents...
#15
Without trying to jump your case, just how long has your stock exhaust lasted up there? My original exhaust is in great shape, and my car is 8 years old. An aluminized pipe is made of the same thing as my OEM exhaust, so you'd figure it's good for at least 8 years. The SS pipe should theoretically last forever since it won't rust. How much more can you ask for?
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You're not jumping my case, I appreciate your input. I know that some competitors offer a rust guarantee/warranty and I figured that the 3 years figure would be minimal but would help to comfort me. I really an not educated regarding metalergy (sp?) and don't know the oxidation rates for different metals along with any type of coatings, weld types that may enhance rusting or reduce its effects... That's why I suggested the warranty include the rustproof language. I could always flip your argument that the pipes last 8 years and I should't worry to say: " if the pipe easily last 8+ years then offering a warranty against rust would further the products advertising boasts and display the manufacturer's confidence in its product without any additional cost(s) to the manufacturer since no rust will occur."
Also, I did not know that our exhaust components were aluminized... I will still consider products offered by Warpspeed, but remain hesitant w/o the rust issue addressed.
Also, I did not know that our exhaust components were aluminized... I will still consider products offered by Warpspeed, but remain hesitant w/o the rust issue addressed.
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I have no data on this, but I wouldn't count on aftermarket exhaust pipe to last as long as oem pipe unless it was ss steel.
And you guys shouldn't really worry too much about the hp diff between Cattman, Warp and Stillen. I don't think the designs are that different to give either a noticable gain. What you should be concerned about is two things:
1) Fit and finish
2) Quality of the materials.
3) Big one here. Type of flex section. If it ain't lined, it's noise city here. I had the OG VE Y from Cattman. The quality of that flex was definately not a quality piece.
And you guys shouldn't really worry too much about the hp diff between Cattman, Warp and Stillen. I don't think the designs are that different to give either a noticable gain. What you should be concerned about is two things:
1) Fit and finish
2) Quality of the materials.
3) Big one here. Type of flex section. If it ain't lined, it's noise city here. I had the OG VE Y from Cattman. The quality of that flex was definately not a quality piece.
Originally posted by Matt93GXE
Without trying to jump your case, just how long has your stock exhaust lasted up there? My original exhaust is in great shape, and my car is 8 years old. An aluminized pipe is made of the same thing as my OEM exhaust, so you'd figure it's good for at least 8 years. The SS pipe should theoretically last forever since it won't rust. How much more can you ask for?
Without trying to jump your case, just how long has your stock exhaust lasted up there? My original exhaust is in great shape, and my car is 8 years old. An aluminized pipe is made of the same thing as my OEM exhaust, so you'd figure it's good for at least 8 years. The SS pipe should theoretically last forever since it won't rust. How much more can you ask for?
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Well, there is no way to tell yet if one is better. I have a prototype pipe that will be modified before production....there hasn't been a 4th gen y-pipe in production yet! I will be dynoing my prototype pipe on this friday. I'll let you know what the gains are compared to stock.
#23
Bill and I just got back from Tulsa..
With the Y pipe, he gained 6 hp and 8 tq over his stock peaks.
Mine was 5-6hp higher than stock, and I don't remember what peak torque was. we've both got both dyno charts that we'll scan and post later.
With the Y pipe, he gained 6 hp and 8 tq over his stock peaks.
Mine was 5-6hp higher than stock, and I don't remember what peak torque was. we've both got both dyno charts that we'll scan and post later.
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SS vs Aluminized
I notice that the Warpspeed SS pipe states that it is a 400 series SS. I don't know what the others are but 400 series SS is less expensive than 300 series and is not as corrosion resistant. I think it has more nickel which makes it harder than 300 series. Not saying this is bad, just wanted to add me 2 cents as I'm considering a Y pipe now. Anyone know if it's ok to wrap these pipes, either aluminized or SS to reduce heat and maybe sound. Or is this a waste of time & money.
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Header wrap
I personally have no experience with it. I am one who likes a louder system so noise dosn't bother me. Our pipe is no louder than the Cattman model. Y-pipes will add noise. Just look at yout stock pipe and then ours. I wouldn't forsee problems with header wrap.It will probably quiet it down some. Why not post and ask the question or do a search under header wrap? As far as lined flex sections, I asked 2 exhaust experts today and they said the version we use is condidered the best. They had not heard of a lined version. If any one has please us at WarpSpeedPerformance.com so we can look into it. Thanks, Dan WSP
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Re: Header wrap
Originally posted by Dan 93 SE
I personally have no experience with it. I am one who likes a louder system so noise dosn't bother me. Our pipe is no louder than the Cattman model. Y-pipes will add noise. Just look at yout stock pipe and then ours. I wouldn't forsee problems with header wrap.It will probably quiet it down some. Why not post and ask the question or do a search under header wrap? As far as lined flex sections, I asked 2 exhaust experts today and they said the version we use is condidered the best. They had not heard of a lined version. If any one has please us at WarpSpeedPerformance.com so we can look into it. Thanks, Dan WSP
I personally have no experience with it. I am one who likes a louder system so noise dosn't bother me. Our pipe is no louder than the Cattman model. Y-pipes will add noise. Just look at yout stock pipe and then ours. I wouldn't forsee problems with header wrap.It will probably quiet it down some. Why not post and ask the question or do a search under header wrap? As far as lined flex sections, I asked 2 exhaust experts today and they said the version we use is condidered the best. They had not heard of a lined version. If any one has please us at WarpSpeedPerformance.com so we can look into it. Thanks, Dan WSP
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WarpSpeed stuff
There is a very minimal charge that is billed to us. Please e-mail Dallas for specifics Dallas@WarpSpeedperformance.com . We would be happy to accept a CC, again talk to Dallas for details. It's very easy.
As far as the projection headlights goe, I know nothing about them. Please e-mail me or post here about them, with web sites. We are always looking for new products to develop or improve an already existing one. What are the company names who produce them. Also, anyone else e-mail us with ideas, we listen. Thanks Dan WSP
As far as the projection headlights goe, I know nothing about them. Please e-mail me or post here about them, with web sites. We are always looking for new products to develop or improve an already existing one. What are the company names who produce them. Also, anyone else e-mail us with ideas, we listen. Thanks Dan WSP
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