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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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Five speed conversion ???

I have located a local source for the parts i will need.

Will any 95-99 manual tranny work?

I have a 97 GLE.

Do I need to get a different ECU or not?

I was under the impression I would not but want to make sure so I cab buy everything at once.

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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 08:36 PM
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Actually I think you might even be able to fit up to a 2001 5spd tranny. Someone here mention before that the 5th gen should have the same tranny and it should bolt right up.

If anyone knows this to be true OR false let me know.
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http://www.hlh0501.com/5spdconversion.htm

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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 09:30 PM
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I'm thinkin of doin this to my 5th gen, does anyone know if the 6spd on the 2002-2003 would fir on the 2000. Or is the gearing different and the engine won't run right witht the 6spd
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Originally posted by Maxman2000
I'm thinkin of doin this to my 5th gen, does anyone know if the 6spd on the 2002-2003 would fir on the 2000. Or is the gearing different and the engine won't run right witht the 6spd
Wont work.
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Re: Five speed conversion ???

I have located a local source for the parts i will need.

Will any 95-99 manual tranny work? Yes, on the 99s you have to use different wires for your reverse.

I have a 97 GLE.

Do I need to get a different ECU or not? If you dont want a CEL get the manual ECU. Or if you want to upgrade to a JWT ECU get a 96 Manual one.

I was under the impression I would not but want to make sure so I cab buy everything at once.
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 09:56 PM
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Re: Re: Five speed conversion ???

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I have located a local source for the parts i will need.

Will any 95-99 manual tranny work? Yes, on the 99s you have to use different wires for your reverse.

I have a 97 GLE.

Do I need to get a different ECU or not? If you dont want a CEL get the manual ECU. Or if you want to upgrade to a JWT ECU get a 96 Manual one.

I was under the impression I would not but want to make sure so I cab buy everything at once.
WIth a 96 JWT ECU, you will most definately get a CEL.

WIth a 97 SE 5spd ECU, you will not get a CEL, but then you can't upgrade to a JWT.

IanS
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Five speed conversion ???

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WIth a 96 JWT ECU, you will most definately get a CEL.

WIth a 97 SE 5spd ECU, you will not get a CEL, but then you can't upgrade to a JWT.

IanS

Corrects me once again . haha...j/k.. ..


He has a 97 and mine is a 96 so he is more experienced in the 97 part of it. hope this all helps you out..
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WIth a 96 JWT ECU, you will most definately get a CEL.

WIth a 97 SE 5spd ECU, you will not get a CEL, but then you can't upgrade to a JWT.

IanS
guess you cant have it all huh. well, I was thinking of getting a 96 ecu for my 97 and JWT it and to solve the CEL problem I was going to remove the light from the dash and relocate the CEL bulb somewhere out of sight like in the fuse panel. That way I can still diagnose when I need to plus I dont have to stare at the damn light all the time. What do you think?
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:26 AM
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guess you cant have it all huh. well, I was thinking of getting a 96 ecu for my 97 and JWT it and to solve the CEL problem I was going to remove the light from the dash and relocate the CEL bulb somewhere out of sight like in the fuse panel. That way I can still diagnose when I need to plus I dont have to stare at the damn light all the time. What do you think?
You could just find a way to wire a switch to the bulb....although I haven't looked back there in awhile to see if it can be done.

Then you just flip the switch when you need to check codes.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Five speed conversion ???

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You could just find a way to wire a switch to the bulb....although I haven't looked back there in awhile to see if it can be done.

Then you just flip the switch when you need to check codes.
what error code do you receive if running the auto ECU? 96 Manual ECU will still give a code on a 97 GLE after the conversion?

The reason I ask is I found a local source for parts but most of theparts are 95-96.
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Old Apr 8, 2003 | 10:46 AM
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what error code do you receive if running the auto ECU? 96 Manual ECU will still give a code on a 97 GLE after the conversion?

The reason I ask is I found a local source for parts but most of theparts are 95-96.
Dave
Get a 96 ECU, live with the CEL and upgrade it to a JWT ECU when you ahve the money.

You'll have a CEL forever, but hey - that's part of the pain that's worth the pleasure.

If you want to sell the car someday, then buy a 97 SE MT ECU at that time, and get rid of the CEL. Then sell teh JWT for $500 bones.

IanS
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Five speed conversion ???

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Get a 96 ECU, live with the CEL and upgrade it to a JWT ECU when you ahve the money.

You'll have a CEL forever, but hey - that's part of the pain that's worth the pleasure.

If you want to sell the car someday, then buy a 97 SE MT ECU at that time, and get rid of the CEL. Then sell teh JWT for $500 bones.

IanS

Definitly do the JWT ECU upgrade you will love it.
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Yeah, JWT seems to be the way to go.......no bad reports on it yet!
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Originally posted by dlicari
Yeah, JWT seems to be the way to go.......no bad reports on it yet!
D

Nope none from me either. Currently getting 23 mpg from mild-wild driving.
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Originally posted by 96shogunmax



Nope none from me either. Currently getting 23 mpg from mild-wild driving.

Just got my price quote...$600 for everything I need for the conversion.

what have you guys been paying for parts?
Dave
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Originally posted by dlicari



Just got my price quote...$600 for everything I need for the conversion.

what have you guys been paying for parts?
Dave

450.
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Originally posted by 96shogunmax



450.
for everything.....axles...clutch etc?
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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Originally posted by dlicari


for everything.....axles...clutch etc?
Everything , except my performace extras . (ex. clutch, lightweight fly, ect, ect.)
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Originally posted by 96shogunmax


Everything , except my performace extras . (ex. clutch, lightweight fly, ect, ect.)
Can you PM me the person or company you got your parts from?
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Originally posted by dlicari


Can you PM me the person or company you got your parts from?

Click the AIM icon under my name.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:39 PM
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Originally posted by 96shogunmax



Click the AIM icon under my name.
Just tried....
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 01:47 PM
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Just tried....

Try again, your on my buddy list. I pmed you earlier you didnt reply.
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Found this in PA off car-parts.com :
http://www.wegotused.com/

Look at the April specials for Allentown or Hazelton. $30 transmission from April 21-26. Think you could actually get it for that price?
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Originally posted by breaux124
Found this in PA off car-parts.com :
http://www.wegotused.com/

Look at the April specials for Allentown or Hazelton. $30 transmission from April 21-26. Think you could actually get it for that price?
Nothing for late model cars..... their affiliate wants $1000 just for the tranny.

Old Apr 11, 2003 | 06:09 AM
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Originally posted by 96shogunmax


Wont work.
Why not? Can something me modded to make it work?
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wonder if they have parts for a third gen trubo project.. or atleast a white bumper
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Originally posted by crazy4maxima
wonder if they have parts for a third gen trubo project.. or atleast a white bumper
It is essentially a large search engine for used parts..... probably would be able to find some stuff.

A junkyard out my way has a bunch of 2nd and 3rd gen wrecks there.

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Why not? Can something me modded to make it work?

Nope. It's impossible. :d
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Originally posted by dlicari


It is essentially a large search engine for used parts..... probably would be able to find some stuff.

A junkyard out my way has a bunch of 2nd and 3rd gen wrecks there.

D
where???
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Originally posted by crazy4maxima
where???
I live in South Central Pa. Last time I was there they had 3 or 4 vehicles, maybe more. Most of them have been there for a while.

I have not been back in three months or so.

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Originally posted by dlicari


I live in South Central Pa. Last time I was there they had 3 or 4 vehicles, maybe more. Most of them have been there for a while.

I have not been back in three months or so.

D
are they in ok condition.. i am looking for a hood and maybe an se trunk w/ the 92-94 spolier... and a rear quarter panel
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are they in ok condition.. i am looking for a hood and maybe an se trunk w/ the 92-94 spolier... and a rear quarter panel
I can check for you...what is OK for you...no rust, a little dirt..

I will stop over today, I have some time this morning.

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thanks bro..
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