Bags

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Ok, yall seem to want to see a timeslip from a turbo max at the track...

and the 1/4 tracks are to far for me, I am lazy...

So I went to the 1/8 mile track

Best run was

1.021----- reaction
2.400----- 60 ft ( SLOW )
9.322----- ET @ 594 FT
9.920----- 1/8 ET
75.35----- 1/8 MPH

Mods- t3/t4, MEVI ( not working tonight ), 3 inch exhaust, 7 PSI

Weight- 3350 LBS

So I am thinking if I can get the VI working I should drop that another .2 sec and add 2 MPH... and if I can get off the line faster I could really be somebody..


So there you go

I did a whole slew of 10's @ 75 MPH

mzmtg

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Damn Baggy, you're still not quicker than me

(timeslip in sig)

Bags

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not on this trip, but I am willing to give you a 1 car head start from 60-120

mzmtg

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I'll need more than that

As soon as you can't see my car over the horizon, you get to take off....

Bags

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only if we run from atlanta to montgomery ... I see yall might be doing a track thing hows the weather over there?

mzmtg

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It's a 30% chance of rain tomorrow, so we'll see....

BigDogJonx

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I guess I will chime in on this one as well. I went with Bags to the track as well. So yes two turbo maxima that were auto dragged. Now my setup is only at 5psi and untuned. Last time we dynoed it, we got 200whp (Kirk can recall what happened after that when I cranked it to 10psi).

The best time I got was

1.187 ---- Reaction
2.444 ---- 60'
9.449 ---- ET @ 594'
10.046 --- 1/8 ET
75.47 ---- 1/8 MPH

Me and Bags lined up against each other about 6times. He took me on 4 of them, I took him on the other two.

So before we start flaming up fugging wars, Im gonna flat out say I aint happy with the #s at all. Not to mention I aint happy with the kit or its performance or anything about it except the fact that I can say I got a turbo kit in my car, big freagin whoop.

Still gotta move the MAF, re-do the downpipe, redo entire charged pipe, and redo exhaust all the way from turbo back.

Remember for both of us these times are as the car was taken to a show as well. We aint take out no seats or put on tiny 15s or anything like that, we just decided to go with everything in the car, subs, 19s, full tank of gas the works You know? We gotta roll down the track in style

Dixit

96sleeper

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I would think that your mph would be a little higher than this. I understand the times because of the 60 ft time, but the mph seems a little low. I typically see 76-78mph in the 1/8th mile, with a best of 9.29 seconds. I guess the weight makes that much difference, becasue my car is light. Are you still having tuning issues or other problems with the kit? I would like to have a turbo, but not if it is gonna make me slower. I would like to see your mph from the 1/4 mile too.

|Bijan|

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Well, the lone 3rd gen was also there...My competitor was a DRAG TRUCK w/ a woman driving, here's the WHOLE slip.

ME------------------DRAG TRUCK
1.004 --- Reaction --- .931
2.604 --- 60 Ft --- 1.650
10.718 --- ET @ 594 ft - 7.061
11.445 --- 1/8 ET --- 7.567
61.97 --- 1/8 MPH --- 89.05

gtr_rider

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99Maxima5sp

keep in mind that its not 50 instantenous HP. You wont see much gains in the 1/8 from a turbo/SC'ed car, its when you hit 3rd gear...your gone....

You have to remember they suffer from so much lag. However, try racing one from a roll... , i did, i learned my lesson, right criag?!


BTW, for comparison, i run a pathetic 9.6@72mph in the 1/8



Eric

|Bijan|

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better than me

Bags

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Well I thought so as well.. But with my VI not working I am losing the top end of each gear, even with the turbo. Dyno proved that

I was hoping to see 78-80 MPH.. I am more concerned with MPH than anything else.

I am thinking if I fix the VI the 1/4 times will be better.. BUT the shift from 2-3 is still a little rough although it is getting better the more HP I pick up.

Weight is KEY. I may remove my 2 12's, spare tire, jack, back seat, and my front power seat just to see what I weigh and then run it a couple of times.

The turbo may slow you in the 1/8, I am hitting the boost at 2500 RPM, BUT everywhere else it WILL be faster.

Trust me, I have been.... testing it with faster cars, 13 sec cars, and I am close to them... real close at 100 +

If that helps

Bags

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low 10's in the 1/8th according to my 1/4 timeslips.


And I am quicker... maybe not in the 1/8th, but I AM quicker

And according to your sig I have 2 MPH on you


There is little lag... let me restate that.. I see little lag.. I have boost @ 2500 RPM... BUT it feels like forever

and I have 3 MPH on you... so the MPH is not bad, just not as good as I want.. I have yet to look around in the track forum

maximum810

I ran a 9.9 stock...without launching....=/

Battle Max

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thats interesting...i have a question though judging from your reaction times are you guys still new to the track?? maybe time will getyou lower et's nice to see my car has a shot against turbo cars in the 1/8th... but im sure that ineed to learn how to drive myself iw as only pulling 10 flats in the 1/8 and i suck....

95emeraldgxe

lol i think its cause the track isnt ideal for your car, you'll need an airplane runway cause its so fast

releasedtruth

And how do these numbers compare to a 6-7pso or 9-10psi SC setup? You'd be the one to know Dix. I'm just curious, it's a shame your turbonium isn't as you expected, I feel for ya. I thought about an SC, then turbo, but I'm back on the SC depending on what happens with all this

BigDogJonx

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Well the S/C kit was never completely installed and run, I ended up selling it a week after I begun installing it and never got to really test it out. I mean I love the boost compared to the s/c in the send where it hits alot quicker, but the s/c was instant in the sense where its linear and I didnt have to wait for the turbo to spool up but then again it didnt put out as much psi as the turbo does.

Will have to remove the 19s and tune the car and try it out again.

Dixit

Dave B

Dang, not to beat you guys down or anything, but those turbos aren't very quick. I would have expected low 9s at 83mph+ even with a crap 2.3+ 60'. I've run 9.4s@77mph (14.4@98mph) in 85 degree weather and at 1100'.


Dave

Bags

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well define QUICK.. but, Your correct, a 1/8 track is not our best option

FWIW ... the elevation is slightly higher and it was about that temp outside

ejj

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I ran the following with the stock SC kit (6psi):

2.4 60' times will hurt you a lot. Launching a boosted car is a whole lot harder than a NA car. Took me several passes to get used to, and I had taken my car (NA) to the track a lot.

I'm sure with more practice those times will come down.

2kprlmax

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Dixit

I am new to this turbo thing and I was wondering whose kit are you running, and why you don't like it

Colonel

Lets keep a long story short. Dix got a BAD install, and the shaft. You need to go into the FI forum and do a search for the info and save Dix some breath and need for Blood Pressure medicine.

BigDogJonx

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Actually do the search in the General forum about 2months back and you will see the huge thread on it.

Dixit

Bags

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or check the SC/turbo forum for a post by MZMTG or this forum in a thread by me.. that is the issues I am dealing with

infinitiblast

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Looks good for an auto guys...I understand the small amount of lag. Just for comparison I ran a 74.09 in the 1/8th mile with my 99 intake and y...looking good guys. Bags I wanna ride in your car one day...perhaps at the stone mountain cookout???

2kprlmax

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ok i will check and soory for your problems i hope you can resolve them. I was also under the impression that anyone with a turbo would be faster.

Bags

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My car IS faster. People get wrapped around the axle about these track times.

My car IS making 50 + more HP and 60 + more TQ.

My car is faster, without a shadow of a doubt.

luckee2bhere

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WOW those times suck. i ran 9.7 last week in 93 degree weather and 70+% humidity.

can we say TUNING?

thnikkamax

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<~ only has injen... runs 10.0 - 10.1 at 1/8th

I don't think these guys ran bad so much because of tuning... i'm sure that better launches would've put them at mid to high 9's

luckee2bhere

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dude they should be running around 9.0s AT LEAST

thnikkamax

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that's if they had s/c... the turbo didn't kick in probably almost near the damn line which maybe explains a higher trap speed than most N/A cars that have the same times.

I'm still waiting for a turbo max owner that has all the important internal, tranny, suspension, rim/tire mods to take on the 1/4

Show us some 11.9's!

Bags

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Sorry... it should have been more like this....



[sarcasim] man my turbo gives me A WHOLE 2 MPH on you [/sarcasim]


My poor attempt to find some humor in my pi$$ poor time

and if your doing the 5-spd.. CRYO treat as much as possible IMHO

Dave B

I just notice that even the trap speeds aren't that great for what I thought a turbo was capable of. 75mph traps, while not bad for a VQ, equal about 94mph in 1/4 mile. That equates to about a 14.6-14.7 with a high 2.2-2.3 60' (assuming 1100'). I'm sure there is still some tuning to be done, the VI will help, and a high stall torque converter would do absolute wonders for the autos.

Dave

thnikkamax

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Dave, take into consideration the power curve change when the turbo kicks in further down the 1/4 track. Assuming that traction is decent, trap speeds will be higher and can't really be found using a conversion calculation because it's not consistent.

I think the more i learn about these turbos, the more i'm inclined to go with a SC/NO2 set-up. Then again here in LA you hardly have the ability to do everyday 120+mph runs without running into traffic... unless it's really really really late at night or you go to the outskirts.

Nealoc187

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I don't buy that for one second. Regardless of at what RPM these turbos spool, they are making more HP at all RPM than the same car would without the turbo. Turbos don't kick in in 3rd gear, they kick in when they start to spool. Lets say for the sake of arguement that they start to spool at 3000rpm... that is about 30-40 feet down the track. It is NOT going to make that big of a difference. After first gear and not counting the small amount of time those cars are shifting, they are making good power the entire way down the track.

Now, that said, we must remember these turbos are from what I gather LOW PRESSURE and UNTUNED. The figure 225whp sticks in my head. That is only 35 more HP than say a typical bolt on 4th gen 5 speed makes. Also remember these guys cars are automatics and much heavier than 4th gen 5spds are. They aren't removing anything from their cars, they are running as they run on the street.

Lets do a power to weight comparo:

3350lbs/225whp = 14.89 lb/hp.
2900lbs/185whp = 15.66 lb/hp.

Then take into account the gearing advantage of a 5spd and you've accounted for their times.

Remember boys, were not talking about a basketball sized T100 turbo here, its a t3/t04 or a t4 (not sure what these guys exact setups are but you get the point.) The extra 10 feet down the track it takes them to spool is NOT the reason why they are not running stellar times. It's because their cars are heavy, not track prepped or stripped, autos, and not pushing a ton of PSI yet.

luckee2bhere

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99Maxima5sp

hmm, interesting because ive ridden in a V1 s/c'ed max and it just feels like a turbocharged car (ive driven and owned of turbo'ed cars too). Its got the lag of a turbo and such. Whenever a Roots type blower is developed for the max, that will put down some serious low-end power. Until then, a s/c is just a cheaper and more reliable t/c in my eyes seeing as they give similar results...

Either way, theres NO EXCUSE for a FI'ed car to be running slower in the 1/8th with a decent 60ft...I would expect NO LESS than a 9.0-9.2, i mean jeez, im running 9.6's...


Eric

luckee2bhere

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dayyyummmmm. thats a bangin sig son.