before - regular sprint spring, agx, 19s



now - one coil cut front and rear, agx, 19s

 

That's tite.....

Makes me wanna cut my sprints, but I'm already too low

 

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wtf is with the forum lately? i just got errors trying to submit a reply?

 

How about a before and after of ride quality and handling?

Your car looks great BTW.

 

looks tight

 

those close-up pics really make me want to cut my sprints (and get 18's or 19's). like somebody said though, how much worse is the ride, any difference?

wJ

 

That thing must seriously be riding on bumpstops now. How is the ride by the way?

 

Looks really good.. My favorite drop is one where the tires have nearly no gap between the fenders, but I really dislike the tucked look.

 

I like the easter eggs in the tree.

 

looks like a tein drop now..

 

Looks good, but also = NO WHEEL TRAVEL now


Dave

 

I hope it's a show only car.

 

Global, what is the camber like now?

 

That really does look sweet, but like everyone else I'm wondering about the ride quality. I considered cutting about half a coil in the front on my sprints but was scared of the harsh ride. Do you think this will have any neg. effect on the KYB's?

 

heh dunno, havn't really checked it...josh said it looked off though, so i'll probably order some camber bolts - 19 inch tires arn't cheap.

 

thanks guys.

yeah, wheel travel was my #1 consideration when i decided to mod my car

my license is suspended so i havn't gotten to drive it yet, i'm just getting it ready. i rode shotty and it feels a little more bumpy, but nothing i can't handle. when i get my license back i'll definatly beat the **** out of it and tell yall how much it liked it

 

Well: little suspension travel = horrible handling = stock maxima can probably outhandle you = bigger chance of denting rims = bigger probability of blowing shocks

And if you don't believe me:
http://drewm.dyndns.org/~drew/maxfaq...CuttingSprings

If you wanted to do it correctly, you'd increase suspension travel with something similar to the motivational shortened struts and rear shock mounts, or by going JIC or Progress coilovers. It would improve handling greatly. But as long as you don't care about handling, you've got the best looking setup.

 

 

I have a coil cut in the front , and my handling is better not worse....also i bent a rim on the stock setup.

 

looks good, dont blow your struts now :P

 

I have chopped maxspeeds, no problems and have had them chopped for 8 months. Ride is not bad. I have had other org members ride in it with no complaints. It looks like the chopped sprints are lower than my setup though.

 

this is a thread about cutting sprint springs. if you don't like it, go away. you and njmax ***** up enough threads with your anti-lowering speech, go elsewhere with it

 

he is telling you that cutting springs is BAD BAD BAD. Its IDIOTS like you who just dont get it. Be cheap, cut a coil. All the guys with 1/2 brain about suspension will at you

 

It's just a known fact that when you have half as much suspension travel, you need 2x as much spring rate to compensate.

I'm just trying to prevent someone else from getting the wrong idea about lowering cars by cutting springs when they should have gone with stiffer coilovers or increased their suspension travel in the first place.

Like I said, when you're in a corner and your outside rear hits a bump large enough for you to hit bumpstops (which isn't very much in a cut spring case), a lot of weight will transfer off the outside front to the outside rear (just like a really really stiff RSB) and your rear end WILL come out on you. And if you don't know how to control it, it may just end up costing you your life.

I'd rather not see anyone get hurt by taking the cheap way out.

 

it's a pretty good thing i'm not one of the dumb****s who trying to be a scca wannabe then, eh?

 

It's funny, I was just watching a car show last Sunday and they were doing a story on some well-known suspension company over in Europe. They showed them making coil-over kits (real coil-overs) and installing them. The owner of the company said something along these lines, "too many guys think lower is better. They're wrong. Enough wheel travel means everything to superior handling car."

I wish more guys would understand the implications of what they're doing sometimes. It's true that having very little wheel travel is very dangerous and can cause you to loose control.


Dave

 

Hit it on the dot. I've actually had the chance to speak to the guy who setup my brother's JICs. His name is Jon and he's a very well respected Road Racer at Willow Springs and Buttonwillow, while also a installer/tuner at Road Race Engineering in Santa Fe Springs, CA. You'll understand that he knows what he's doing after he tunes your car and takes you for a Hell Ride in it, with all 4 of your tires squeeling at every corner.

My brother's Eclipse showed his quality tuning when at Willow Springs with Jon behind the wheel, they easily passed up a 750hp full suspension modified 911 turbo.

Meanwhile another friend of my brother who also had a JIC install from him, lapped everyone in his beginning class, beat all the times of the intermediate class, and posted comparible times with the advanced class at Willow Springs the first time he had ever been on a Road Race Track.

Many of the cars he tunes come out looking quite a bit higher than the owner expected, but after he explains that he has to tune the ride height to have enough shock travel for the specific spring rate never to bottom out in a corner and backs all that talk up with an extreme Hell Ride in it, the owner then understands.

All people that come to him and ask for a certain drop, he turns them away. But then again, people go to him when they want the best handling car in the world, not when they want the lowest dropped car in the world.

 

looks good

 

Wow - driving aorund like that in the NW!!!

I fear for your life.....

:P

 

I love it looks great.... Wish I could do that but then i'd prolly mess something up like all the others are saying

 

i dunno why you would wanna chop the front down anymore the Sprint drop is low enough up front.... but i guess you dont plan on driving with a Stillen lip or new front end with that drop. But if anything you should have chopped the rears 2 coils to level out the Sprints, least thats what i plan on doin when i install mine


Otherwise, looks hott. Keep it up!

Ant

 

Vancouver/Portland isn't nearly as bad as Seattle

 

I have a box with three subs and two amps in the trunk...I didn't know how much I would need to cut. Before, it was pretty even. Now with one coil cut f/r, it's uneven

oh well, i'm not cutting another coil off the rear, it's good enough for now

 

The car looks great, I believe thats his goal. If others dont approve, who gives a ****, if handling was priority I am sure hed be on other suspension setup. I too have one cut front coil the car rides fine and thats all that matters to me. I can give three shiats about handling since I dont go 120MPH around corners. Everyone doesnt like the same food the same type of women everyone has the right to do what the hell they want with their cars. Life would suck if everyones maxima look the same. I surely dont want my car to look the same w/ the big ooooo gap and uneven drop, I mean thats just me. Not offending anyone just making a point calm down everyone this always happens with suspension threads they go out the window.

 

That is very true, as long as they know what they are getting in to when they do it. We always just step in to make sure everyone knows the positive AND negative so they can weigh it all for themselves and make a decision that's right for them.

 

That's true.

I like to get out of Downtown now and then and go to Kirkland just to get some decent roads to rip around on.

Just be careful the next time you come up here for a meet - those bridge connector beams across the road SUCK going into seattle.

Anyway - in case I forgot to say it - it looks awesome!

IanS

 

I was wondering how long til you poped in and said that

 

I'm not a ****ing scca racer wannabe, if I go fast it's in a straight line most of the time - having "no suspension travel" means about jack **** to me.

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Not offending anyone just making a point calm down everyone this always happens with suspension threads they go out the window.

yep. if the three or so people who so nicely chimed in don't approve of it, make your own thread and get it stickied or something. I've been here for three years and owned 4th gen maximas all my driving career...I know exactly what I'm "getting myself into."

Dave B, ^ was not meant towards you - I respect and value your opinions. I look up to you, man