I'm researching on the BBK right now but still not sure which one to get so I wanna hear from u guys......I'm lookign into 4 piston with 13" rotor that'll fit my my factory 17" without spacer it doesn't matter if it's one peice rotor or two peice rotor. I know the Brembo is the best one but the price is kinda outrageous, I think the cheapest I've seen on the Brembo kit for maxima was like $2399

 

I am currently looking at this too. I printed out the template from stillen and waiting for template from precision brakes. I also am looking for BBK that will allow me to still use stock 17's without spacers. I will inform you if I get any info. but first I got to take off wheel to find out anything.

 

Wilwood is nice. IMHO*

 

Well I did go with a Precision/Wilwood kit because it's such a great price for a high quality product...

 

FastBrakes are just over $1000.
Jae

 

wilwood is less expensive, and it saved my butt a couple times

 

Yeah but did your factory 17's fit without any problems.

 

i had 18's so i dont know.

 

OK I found that the OEM wheel has a 40 mm offset.

 

i don't think you'll find a bbk that will clear the factory 17" rims just due to the fact of the spoke design. They are too straight from the center of the rim going outwards. If you look closely, the stock calipers barely clear the stock rims.

 

Yeah but if you look at the wheel the spokes move out going to the tire. I still got to get a template from precision brakes. As far as I know stillen/AP and Brembo's doesn't fit factory wheels. Brembo's require a 36 offset to fit by looking at there website.

 

the most important part, which is the middle of the spokes where caliper clearance is crucial, is not enough to clear the calipers of a bbk.

the way the stupid spoke is, i think a 10mm spacer might not even do it if you wanted to throw a brembo gt or ap racing bbk on.

 

IMHO, Wilwood > Brembo or AP racing

All these companies make very high quality parts, however Wilwood gives you the best bang for the buck. Plus replacement parts, such as rotors, calipers, etc. are fairly cheap

I have the 12.2 Wilwood kit from Fastbrakes, and I like it a lot...

 

Im going with Precision/Wilwood with the fronts and back. but anyway I know they will send you a cardboard mock up of the system so you can check for clearance. give them a call, Ive been dealing with the guy Mark over there, i forgot his extension though.



mmmmmm

 

I can't even put the stillen/AP BBK on my 19's without spacers. But that's not the one I want so it doesn't matter. I want the precsion kit.

 

 

Which ever brand you got with, just make sure it's a two piece rotor. I made the mistake of not getting a 2 piece rotor. The weight saving is well worth the extra cost.

 

jeff, u never answered me if you had any of those brackets left.

 

The precision brakes BBK won't fit on my 19's without a spacer. Guess that rules out a BBK.

I might just upgrade to the 300zx calipers.

 

you may want to give HRE or Iforged or DPE or any other high end wheel company a call and try that argument out.. you will definitely be eating your words.

 

Just curious...does the max need a BBK? The stockies look pretty good. Unless ur doin some auto-x.

 

No, not really. He is absolutely correct. Please explain how the spoke/wheel design does not affect caliper clearance... simply buying a wheel with a large offset does NOT guarantee a particular brake fittment. There is absolutely no way you can say that all 18" 45mm offset wheels will fit over xxx brake kit when 35mm offset won't. that's like saying you can easily swap an RB26DETT into a Maxima simply because they're both built by Nissan.


I've got five sets of 16-17" wheels all with offsets 30-35 in the back yard. some of them fit over my current brakes with 1.2" clearance, some of them don't even come close to fitting. Please explain that.


Now... If you were to say that a 17" SSR comp wheel with 45 offset won't clear xxx brake kit, but a 35 offset will- THEN your statement would make sense.

 

Doesn't necessarily rule out a BBK. I looked and priced the kits you have listed and more, and finally decided on this one.


This is Matt's Blemco BBK from the following link
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=275821
Notice from the pic, NISSAN 300ZXTT calipers on the 12.6" rotors. This was a must for me, wanted Nissan on the calipers, not anybody else's name. They clear my Volk's with no problem, and even clear my 17x8 Konig Tantrums. Plus I wanted to be able to buy brake pads, kits for the calipers, or new rotors from the local Nissan dealer, Autozone, etc. Its all stocked. Try doing that with any of the other kits-at least a week or two to ship and get them delivered. I've talked enough, check out the kit on the link above.

Mike

 

In a typical wheel spoke design, offset will give you a fairly good idea about clearance. But the thing is, offset is measure at the hub/center of the wheel. But the brake caliper is usually mounted closer to the edge of the wheel. You could have the right offset, but if the spokes take a major bend inward to give that deep lip look or they are really thick spoke. The spoke will still hit the caliper.

HRE, Iforge, DPE all make flat center piece wheel. So offset on those wheels, is a good way to judge caliper clearance.

 

i am not that dumb, at least i don't think i am.. i realize some spoke designs are better than others, but without the right offset, spoke design won't matter (for the most part).

 

I went by the HRE headquarters since they are near where I work. Talking with George, one of the guys that takes measurements for custom sets of wheels, he told me it is absolutely dependent on spoke design. He said that offset would only be a determining factor if the spoke were totally straight from the mounting surface on the hub to the inside of the rim of the wheel, saying that they don't make any wheels like that. He showed me diagrams of how they can design the same series wheel, with the same offset and width, but one wheel can have the spokes 4 inches farther out than the other. I guess that's what slammed95 was saying about his wheels.
Also, why would anyone vote for Precision/Wilwood or SSBC, over the AP kit from Stillen. No option for Brembos though. That's like choosing a Toyota Celica over a Ferrari Enzo. The celica is ok, but why not recommend the Enzo if it's an option?

 

I'm willing to bet that wheels with a lower offset will have a greater likelyhood of fitting than wheels with a higher offset.

Could we all agree that both offset and spoke design must be taken into consideration?

 

Can't do that. then both people would be right/wrong, and the argument will be moot. That's against the laws of nature. someone must be right and someone must be wrong in order to have a good discussion about anything on these forums.

 

IMHO. The spoke design is the over riding factor for BBK clearance. Offset is important of course but it alone won't dictate clearance.

 

Offset is important regardless of BBK. I'm just trying to downplay it's importance. If someone is going out and buying a set of wheel with 60mm offset for the maxima, Even if he doesn't have a BBK. Those offset are not ideal to start with. He could have problems with handling and interference with suspenion parts. The thing is we all know ideal offset for maxima is anywhere between 30mm-45mm depends on the width of the rim. Now, MM is small compare to other more important factors when fitting a BBK. ie. spoke design or width of the rim.

 

Good point. Then you're wrong, and I'm right.

 

Whatever guys. Just FYI, my cheap Enkei DM5s will clear the Z32 calipers. Just installed Matts kit, and I love it.

 

You forgot the most important part, and are your DM5's 17" or 18"

 

He has 18 x 7.5's