Transmissions, Transmissions, Transmissions
#1
Transmissions, Transmissions, Transmissions
I have suspected for some time that I had the infamous 95-97 differential bearing problem in my 5spd (the whining noise and a leaky tranny), so I got one of the guys at work to put the max up on the lift and check it out, and the leak is indeed from the cv shaft inputs. The leak isn't that bad and I could probably keep driving for a while (never know though), but I can get cheap labor while I have this job (probably only a summer job), so I'm going to get this fixed sonner rather than later. I do have quite a few questions so I'll try to break this into sections so you can skip to what you think you can help me with if you want. Here goes.
Transmission:
--->There's also a leak from a sensor on the tranny (speed sensor is the only one I think right?). What is the fix for this? Do I replace the whole sensor or is there some sort of seal? Anybody know the part number?
--->I'm thinking I'll just replace the tranny so my options are either get a 98-99 or 2000-2001. Is there any maximum mileage you would advise for this? Obviously lower is better, but what is the highest I should consider? Is there any kind of damage (what put the car in the junkyard) that would ruin the tranny?
--->98-99: Have there been any of these later 4th gens that developed the diffy bearing problem, or was this a mistake that nissan fixed at this point? Also since all 4th gens seem to have a weak 3rd gear this would limit my clutch options so I will probably only go this route if I find one cheap and with low miles.
--->2000-2001: Are there any common problems with these trannies I should be aware of (this is the main reason I posted in general)? Has anybody broken one when using a clutch with more clamping force than stock? I'm not talking supercharged or nitrous because I know that is pretty inevitable, but some 4th gens have broken 3rd gear (hence the weak third gear) by using ACT clutches. Do 2000-2001 trannies still use Gl-4 tranny fluid like the 4th gens, or are they Gl-5?
--->2000 tranny in a 4th gen: I know people have said the axles are the same, but has anybody actually used 4th gen axles? The part number for the CV's is different so I wasn't sure. I have to replace my CV's anyway, so the only problem might be the core exchange. other than that, just use the 4th gen speed sensor correct? Are there any other parts I may need from a 5th gen besides the tranny and CV's (unless someone is certain the 4th gen ones will work)? Are there any other potential problems or have I understood correctly that this is a direct bolt on?
Clutch: Since the tranny will be out and I have a little over 100k I will definitely be replacing the clutch, but which one?
--->Oem (NOT Key Value): As stated above I would definitely use this one if I ended up with a 4th gen tranny (don't want to go breaking any gears). Any reason I should get this if I go with a 5th gen tranny? What parts will I need for this? That is, what I would get with the key value kit but not crap. Part numbers would be great.
--->Exedy stage one: This one is in the lead, but the price kind of worries me (compared to other performance clutches). Has anybody had this for a while and can speak to it's longevity? Is this thing a real pain for city driving? I don't have to do much city driving, but sometimes I do. Is it any harder to launch? basically I want to know how drivablity is effected.
--->ACT stage one: Same questions as with the Exedy. Any reason I should spend the extra $100 dollars to get this instead of the exedy?
---> Any other clutches I should consider?
Other parts: What other parts do I need? Seals? Other things? Again part numbers would be great.
Please add any other things I didn't but should have asked about.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer
I'm so glad the org is back up. Sprintmax is the man .
Transmission:
--->There's also a leak from a sensor on the tranny (speed sensor is the only one I think right?). What is the fix for this? Do I replace the whole sensor or is there some sort of seal? Anybody know the part number?
--->I'm thinking I'll just replace the tranny so my options are either get a 98-99 or 2000-2001. Is there any maximum mileage you would advise for this? Obviously lower is better, but what is the highest I should consider? Is there any kind of damage (what put the car in the junkyard) that would ruin the tranny?
--->98-99: Have there been any of these later 4th gens that developed the diffy bearing problem, or was this a mistake that nissan fixed at this point? Also since all 4th gens seem to have a weak 3rd gear this would limit my clutch options so I will probably only go this route if I find one cheap and with low miles.
--->2000-2001: Are there any common problems with these trannies I should be aware of (this is the main reason I posted in general)? Has anybody broken one when using a clutch with more clamping force than stock? I'm not talking supercharged or nitrous because I know that is pretty inevitable, but some 4th gens have broken 3rd gear (hence the weak third gear) by using ACT clutches. Do 2000-2001 trannies still use Gl-4 tranny fluid like the 4th gens, or are they Gl-5?
--->2000 tranny in a 4th gen: I know people have said the axles are the same, but has anybody actually used 4th gen axles? The part number for the CV's is different so I wasn't sure. I have to replace my CV's anyway, so the only problem might be the core exchange. other than that, just use the 4th gen speed sensor correct? Are there any other parts I may need from a 5th gen besides the tranny and CV's (unless someone is certain the 4th gen ones will work)? Are there any other potential problems or have I understood correctly that this is a direct bolt on?
Clutch: Since the tranny will be out and I have a little over 100k I will definitely be replacing the clutch, but which one?
--->Oem (NOT Key Value): As stated above I would definitely use this one if I ended up with a 4th gen tranny (don't want to go breaking any gears). Any reason I should get this if I go with a 5th gen tranny? What parts will I need for this? That is, what I would get with the key value kit but not crap. Part numbers would be great.
--->Exedy stage one: This one is in the lead, but the price kind of worries me (compared to other performance clutches). Has anybody had this for a while and can speak to it's longevity? Is this thing a real pain for city driving? I don't have to do much city driving, but sometimes I do. Is it any harder to launch? basically I want to know how drivablity is effected.
--->ACT stage one: Same questions as with the Exedy. Any reason I should spend the extra $100 dollars to get this instead of the exedy?
---> Any other clutches I should consider?
Other parts: What other parts do I need? Seals? Other things? Again part numbers would be great.
Please add any other things I didn't but should have asked about.
Thanks in advance for any help you can offer
I'm so glad the org is back up. Sprintmax is the man .
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u had alot of stuff to read so im gonna say it like this.... get a 2000-2001 tranny and it would work wit the 4th gen axles.. i've done it. hmm i dont know which clutch u should go wit. i aslo dont kno of any part numbers for u.
if u have any questions please im me.
if u have any questions please im me.
#9
Originally Posted by Mishmosh
Yeah, get a 2000-2001. They are not more expensive than getting a 4th gen tranny and most have low miles. The switch leak is most likely the neutral/reverse position sensor...very common.
Anybody know what sort of seals I should get (like for where the tranny attaches to the engine etc)?
Also will the redline mt-90 I have sitting here work or is a 5th gen Gl-5?
What clutches are you all running (and why did you pick it)? Anybody heard of any problems with the exedy stage 1. Thanks alot everybody.
#10
i have exedy stage 1 cause i heard it was strong enough to handle the power i would be running and also feel stock and not kill my tranny. It cant handle the power of my car though...i may need an ACT or something stronger to handle my boost...
if i'm on the highway and i drop a gear where i'm in second doing like 6,000 rpm, i dotn feel any type of slippage but most times when i take it from 1st gear redline to second gear shift, it feels like its slipping 4/5 of the time. I dont know if its the clutch or my misfire/02sensor issues causing car to pop out real slow from that shift...
if i'm on the highway and i drop a gear where i'm in second doing like 6,000 rpm, i dotn feel any type of slippage but most times when i take it from 1st gear redline to second gear shift, it feels like its slipping 4/5 of the time. I dont know if its the clutch or my misfire/02sensor issues causing car to pop out real slow from that shift...
#11
Originally Posted by Terran
So should I just get a new one or is there some sort of seal that is all I would need to replace? Also do I keep the 4th gen one just like speed sensor?
Anybody know what sort of seals I should get (like for where the tranny attaches to the engine etc)?
Also will the redline mt-90 I have sitting here work or is a 5th gen Gl-5?
What clutches are you all running (and why did you pick it)? Anybody heard of any problems with the exedy stage 1. Thanks alot everybody.
Anybody know what sort of seals I should get (like for where the tranny attaches to the engine etc)?
Also will the redline mt-90 I have sitting here work or is a 5th gen Gl-5?
What clutches are you all running (and why did you pick it)? Anybody heard of any problems with the exedy stage 1. Thanks alot everybody.
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#12
Originally Posted by Terran
So should I just get a new one or is there some sort of seal that is all I would need to replace? Also do I keep the 4th gen one just like speed sensor?
Anybody know what sort of seals I should get (like for where the tranny attaches to the engine etc)?
Anybody know what sort of seals I should get (like for where the tranny attaches to the engine etc)?
Some drain their tranny by pulling the neutral/rev position switch--I wouldn't recommend that. You can get a perpetual slow leak and the switch plastic is easily cracked too.
If your axles are intact but have serious miles on them, it may be a good time to order up some Raxles.
Re: tranny oil. I have used MT-90 before but now use Synchromesh (first introduced by GM, now made by a couple of mfg, ie. Pennzoil). It is yellow-metal friendly and works great! Best of all, you can order a 5 gal pail for pretty cheap (oil-store.com, $72).
#13
Mecconoble, you have a supercharger/turbo correct? I think if I can ever afford that I'll just spring for a new clutch first.
Mishmosh, thanks for all the input. I do need to replace my CVs, I just thought there might be a problem returning a core from the wrong gen so I will probably get 4th gen ones if they will work just as well. Also, that pennzoil is really expensive...I got enough mt-90 for like half that.
Mishmosh, thanks for all the input. I do need to replace my CVs, I just thought there might be a problem returning a core from the wrong gen so I will probably get 4th gen ones if they will work just as well. Also, that pennzoil is really expensive...I got enough mt-90 for like half that.
#14
I just dropped in a new VLSD in my 97 Max that was manufactured in 2001.I did replace the axles due to O/D to VLSD drivers side does change more splines.I had the original O/D bearing leak twice (135,000).Got VLSD wholesale thru Pinnacle Nissan($1665+$100.00 ship)Dealer wants $2220+tax
#15
What and where is is pinnacle nissan? Could you give me the contact info? Are you saying the tranny is brand new? That's only a few hundred more than the one price I've gotten on a used VLSD...I'd like to see what they charge for regular 2k tranny.
#16
Never mind...I think I found it. http://www.nissanparts.org/ is this it? Wierd, the regular tranny is more expensive than the VLSD version.
#17
Originally Posted by Terran
Also, that pennzoil is really expensive...I got enough mt-90 for like half that.
Also, for reference, I got my 2k1 open diff. manual tranny for $750 + $100 shipping--it had only 12k miles on it!
#23
I granaded my 5th gen tranny with a ACT clutch- 4th gear stripped out all the teeth from both the counter and main shafts. Here is a picture of one of the shafts. I rebuild it myself- I got 90K miles on my car. I drive very hard and ran N20 for 30K miles when it was new.
#24
I kind of hate to resurrect this old thread...but I will anyway .
This is mainly directed at mishmosh, but anyone who knows the answer, please reply.
I know that the speed sensor needs to be 4th gen, but has anybody used the 5th gen neutral position switch (that's the impression I get from mishmosh's post, but I am not sure). I ask because it seems odd that one type of sensor would work while the other will not (even though I would be very excited to learn that I could use the 5th gen neutral pos. as I need to replace it and I believe the new one may have it.).
Thanks alot everybody for all past and future replies.
edit: I've answered my own question...they have the same part number for 1995 and 2000, so I guess I'm in luck.
This is mainly directed at mishmosh, but anyone who knows the answer, please reply.
I know that the speed sensor needs to be 4th gen, but has anybody used the 5th gen neutral position switch (that's the impression I get from mishmosh's post, but I am not sure). I ask because it seems odd that one type of sensor would work while the other will not (even though I would be very excited to learn that I could use the 5th gen neutral pos. as I need to replace it and I believe the new one may have it.).
Thanks alot everybody for all past and future replies.
edit: I've answered my own question...they have the same part number for 1995 and 2000, so I guess I'm in luck.
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