Maxima equals Junk
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
WTF? You complain about build quality and THEN state you want a RX-7??!! How ironic is that??
You must not know about rotary engines. If you want a RX-7 fine. All I have to say is good luck and have $1500 saved for a new motor.
Originally Posted by VG Ill ridah
I stated their cars were crap. Then I also specified what I meant by saying that their family sedans since those are what I have experience on. I never once doubted their sport cars such as the mustang. I know that Ford and Mazda had a partnership and I have wanted a RX-7 since the first Gran Tourismo. To tell you the truth I was considering buying one for my first car but that damn insurance ran too high.
I have owned several different makes of cars in my lifetime,{toyota,nissan,ford,dodge, gm,vw,volvo}....and from my experience toyota and nissan have gave me the best service. Ford and dodge,the worst. I believe there are lemons in every bunch though.But If i had all the problems you are having with your max i don't think i would think this car was very reliable either....my .02
Originally Posted by VG Ill ridah
I stated their cars were crap. Then I also specified what I meant by saying that their family sedans since those are what I have experience on. I never once doubted their sport cars such as the mustang. I know that Ford and Mazda had a partnership and I have wanted a RX-7 since the first Gran Tourismo. To tell you the truth I was considering buying one for my first car but that damn insurance ran too high.
And by the way good luck on the Ford Mustang. I LOVE the new Mustangs lines and shape. Why you guys keep bashing on Ford I dont know. Any car that gets taken care of will last you. Japanese cars have always been known for their quality and American cars for the lack there of. Which is simply not true anymore. I'd be willing to bet our Maximas have just as many problems as other cars between knock sensor, 02 sensors, MAF's on 5.5's and the such.
It comes down to how the person who owned the car before you was treated. Or if it was made on a MOnday when the guy building your car at the factory was hung over from the night before and as soon as it left the assembly line he laughed at himself and wondered who was the poor old sap whos going to buy that lemon.
Originally Posted by VG Ill ridah
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Well Buddy what you hear did not contain to my auto tranny. Trust me for the last 50k I dogged it to a replacement. Did I mention that I had over 220K on my dash before the replacement? Many of our auto's place over 150k before going. Some people convert others replace. What's really interesting is that these numbers are far more than 100k. So all I have to say now is the
has been 
Well Buddy what you hear did not contain to my auto tranny. Trust me for the last 50k I dogged it to a replacement. Did I mention that I had over 220K on my dash before the replacement? Many of our auto's place over 150k before going. Some people convert others replace. What's really interesting is that these numbers are far more than 100k. So all I have to say now is the
has been Calm down, chief. All I was saying is that there have been more than a few posts on the forum about 5th gen auto trannies going bad at well before 100k miles, just as you claim the Fords might. And I'm pretty sure you didn't own anybody.
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I have mixed views on on some these comments I owed a 92 Sable and at 76K the tranny toke a dump the car was well cared for also. I had a stock 94 GXE Auto Max over 125K no problems. I Loved that car but a famliy member wrecked it. Now I have a stock 2000 SE 5 speed 65K I Love the way it drives but it has a minor clutch hose leak and i had to replace the MAF sensor. I wonder in Nissan quality slipping.
i tend to lean more towards a chevrolet but the new '05 Mustang is nice. I like the way they look. still have yet to see one in person. I myself would rather have an 88-93 LX Coupe myself. 
Originally Posted by 98MikeXimaSE
speak for urself dude, and dont ever disrespect my baby ever again 
I agree with mike,,,ive got 137,ooo on my 97,, alternator, 2 cv boots/axles, and a battery.thats all thats ever 'broke',, and really,, what car doesnt need a new battery and alternator eventually.....my 02 sensors and knock are still ok too...No company is perfect! my last american car was a 89 jeep wrangler,, paid like 15k new...worst car i ever owned...cracked engine block, faulty brake system, 3 or 4 rear main seals..it got to the point i had to bleed the clutch in the parking lot of the new car dealer,, and i can almost guarantee they couldnt move that ***** when they tried,,lol...anyway..DONT DISREPECT THE CAR FOR WHICH THIS WHOLE ORG IS BASED ON...... 
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lol, I know a guy that's been able to pay off a good chunk of his med school debt while making peanuts as a resident just by rebuilding Mazda rotary engines in what little spare time he has. 
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hey JP - go buy a BMW already. geez. You and frank fontaine. is he still here? 
Oh by the way....
My Max turns 100
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My Max turns 100
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The only good car ford ever built, were those crown vics. Never die, go anywhere beasts. One of them, my bro drove it first, then me. we rarely changed the oil in that thing and beat on it to no end. Took it four wheeling in some wooded areas a few times. Still started up for us every day. Wasn't quick, didn't handle well, never got us any chicks..but it was one monster of a car. i have yet to see another car as durable as those vics were. My family owned 3 of them..til we moved to japanese cars. We'll have to see how they go..so far so good.
Well....My experience with Nissan's has been awesome. My past cars have been as follows, 2002 Quest [Wife's], 1999 Pathfinder, 1993 Altima,1990 Sentra,1987 Stanza, 1985 300zx. With all those Nissan's over the past 10 years or so the only part AND I MEAN THE ONLY PART! I have had to replace was a bad starter on my altima, yes i have done brakes and normal wear items but besides that NOTHING. Now in retrospect my wife wanted a Grand Am bad about 7 years agao, so i bought her 1 and put about $3,000 into it after the engine went bad. Before i owned my Nissans I had a 1985 Trans Am, and a 1985 Mercury Cougar. The trans Am wasn't to bad, maintenance wise [bad exhasut and constant replacement of shift mount] but the Cougar was a disaster, water pump,radiator,calibers,window solenoids,3 cat converters,you get the point. I will always buy Nissan and will probably never go bad to American cars. Some have great luck with them [American cars] and never have a problem but that was not the case with myself.
Things that needed to be replaced on my ford, 93 SHO automatic 120k
Trans at 100k, but i did beat on it
upper radiator hose
front sway bar end links
starter 2x
rotors 2x
my nissan, 2000 Maxima SE 5spd 60k
Coils
Maf
rotors 2x
wheel bearings
front spindles
quailty is based on numbers, for every x amount of cars, theres gonna be that Y car thats a big pile. sorry u found that one. best of luck with the ford. i had a 92 tempo and a 91 topaz and both ran long and hard. never any real problems with the 350k between them. too bad the tempo pulled a 0-60 of 13.5 and the topaz a 36 seconds flat. oh yeah!
Trans at 100k, but i did beat on it
upper radiator hose
front sway bar end links
starter 2x
rotors 2x
my nissan, 2000 Maxima SE 5spd 60k
Coils
Maf
rotors 2x
wheel bearings
front spindles
quailty is based on numbers, for every x amount of cars, theres gonna be that Y car thats a big pile. sorry u found that one. best of luck with the ford. i had a 92 tempo and a 91 topaz and both ran long and hard. never any real problems with the 350k between them. too bad the tempo pulled a 0-60 of 13.5 and the topaz a 36 seconds flat. oh yeah!
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Ill take it and baby back to life and make it the hottest maxima here.. IF you donate it to me :P
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Hey man I dont care what car you have nobody makes 100 perfect cars sometimes outta 100 there might be a sour lemon. Possible you got it.
Sorry bout your luck
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Hey man I dont care what car you have nobody makes 100 perfect cars sometimes outta 100 there might be a sour lemon. Possible you got it.
Sorry bout your luck
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Join the club. Loose the max and you'll be happy you did. Not trying to sound sarcastic but I did the whole hold on to my car thing while it kept breaking only to get so frustrated. Lost the car for a even more 'unreliable' car but that has given me much less headaches.
Originally Posted by MAX2000JP
My 2000 Maxima is a piece of garbage. It has 69k miles and lately I am working on it weekly. Nissan quality is garbage, you can see it go downhill as the every generation progresses. Here is a list of the quality Nissan parts and systems that have failed within the last 2 months.
-MTX blew up. The differential wrist pin came out and caused an "explosion" in the casing. The car had 64k miles on it when this happened. Had the car looked at by my friend who builds race cars, the wrist pin was either machined improperly or not stamped in properly. Strike that one up to Nissan. I replaced the tranny with a boneyard one, 4 hours of fun.
-VIAS is broken once again- The Variable Intake system on the 5th gens was poorly designed and the rod breaks, which causes the system to not engage. I haven't fixed it, no big deal, I really don't care.
-A/C Compressor Clutch failed- This part wasn't built by Nissan but a supplier. I cannot remember the name that was stamped on the compressor. The A/C Compressor clutch started to make a bearing noise and was smoking. Turned out that the snap wring holding the bearing together came lose and lodged itself into the cluch itself. Replaced the compressor myself, about an 1 1/2 worth of fun. Nice quality part!
Today: Exhaust broke. Last week on a road trip, my exhaust hangar just behind the cat broke, which cause it to bang against the crossmember. Quite annoying so I fixed it. Looked like a very poor quality weld which snapped, rigged it back together...Easy fix. Today, my exhaust start leaking, GREAT. I was driving to school and got a hint of wheel hop because it was damp out. Suddenly my exhaust gets LOUD. Just took a look at it, the weld on the flange that connects the muffler and b-pipe snapped. The exhaust exits now after the b-pipe, not muffler. I'll have to weld it back together on Monday, yay! Great quality weld there Nissan
Sorry for the rant...I am going tomorrow to my local Ford dealer to buy an 05' Mustang. Might as well have a new car with a warranty.
-MTX blew up. The differential wrist pin came out and caused an "explosion" in the casing. The car had 64k miles on it when this happened. Had the car looked at by my friend who builds race cars, the wrist pin was either machined improperly or not stamped in properly. Strike that one up to Nissan. I replaced the tranny with a boneyard one, 4 hours of fun.
-VIAS is broken once again- The Variable Intake system on the 5th gens was poorly designed and the rod breaks, which causes the system to not engage. I haven't fixed it, no big deal, I really don't care.
-A/C Compressor Clutch failed- This part wasn't built by Nissan but a supplier. I cannot remember the name that was stamped on the compressor. The A/C Compressor clutch started to make a bearing noise and was smoking. Turned out that the snap wring holding the bearing together came lose and lodged itself into the cluch itself. Replaced the compressor myself, about an 1 1/2 worth of fun. Nice quality part!
Today: Exhaust broke. Last week on a road trip, my exhaust hangar just behind the cat broke, which cause it to bang against the crossmember. Quite annoying so I fixed it. Looked like a very poor quality weld which snapped, rigged it back together...Easy fix. Today, my exhaust start leaking, GREAT. I was driving to school and got a hint of wheel hop because it was damp out. Suddenly my exhaust gets LOUD. Just took a look at it, the weld on the flange that connects the muffler and b-pipe snapped. The exhaust exits now after the b-pipe, not muffler. I'll have to weld it back together on Monday, yay! Great quality weld there Nissan
Sorry for the rant...I am going tomorrow to my local Ford dealer to buy an 05' Mustang. Might as well have a new car with a warranty.
With cars, its mostly a hit and miss. I had a toyota camry station wagon (91) and it was the best damn car ever. That this ran forever and never eaven asked for ANYTHING the whole 180k miles i had it. Untill i crashed it into a civic..lol
After that i had a pontiac and i hated it. Tranny problems.. engine problems... the works..
Now, i got my max and i love it. I do have to agree that i HATE the road noise and the frame is SO flimsy i hear every lil flex and movement on the road on the frame since i got the drop.
Other than that, i really dont think u should base quality on brands.. I have seen many people with fords that get over 250k miles on original engine and tranny. And then there are others that have to replace stuff every year. Its really just luck IMHO.
But with whatever you get, I hope it makes ya happy. I know my max makes me happy for the most part
To be honest tho, i HATE mustangs cause everyone and their mom has em, and they look REALLY FUGLY! the new 2k5 stangs i have to agree look pretty sick tho dude, stick with the new body style and ill still be your friend hehe..
ENJOY!
After that i had a pontiac and i hated it. Tranny problems.. engine problems... the works..
Now, i got my max and i love it. I do have to agree that i HATE the road noise and the frame is SO flimsy i hear every lil flex and movement on the road on the frame since i got the drop.
Other than that, i really dont think u should base quality on brands.. I have seen many people with fords that get over 250k miles on original engine and tranny. And then there are others that have to replace stuff every year. Its really just luck IMHO.
But with whatever you get, I hope it makes ya happy. I know my max makes me happy for the most part
To be honest tho, i HATE mustangs cause everyone and their mom has em, and they look REALLY FUGLY! the new 2k5 stangs i have to agree look pretty sick tho dude, stick with the new body style and ill still be your friend hehe..
ENJOY!
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Well I ordered a 2005 Black/Black Mustang GT 5 speed yesterday. It should be here around Christmas time, so I am excited. I can't wait to get back into a rwd car. Plus, the 05 GT is exploding aftermarket wise, so I should have a nice selection of mods soon.
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
how mcuh did that run you? what options? not my choice of a car but whatever floats your boat. lol
Originally Posted by MAX2000JP
It's fully loaded except the Shaker 1000 stereo. I chose the car because I like the retro look, wanted a V8, and wanted RWD. I wanted a car that handled well and was able to run 13s, something my Maxima would have never been able to do without tons of money pumped into it. Ford did an awesome job engineering the car. The chassis and suspension really impresssed me and guys have dynoed the MTX V8 at 275-280rwhp. It appears Ford underrated the car by roughly 20 bhp.
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Originally Posted by VG Ill ridah
Congrats on the buy. Those fords do look nice. I'm not a big fan but if this is the real deal then have fun. Post some pics when you get it. Do you think that high 12's are possible? I mean hte torque numbers must be chassis twisting and the rwhp is dynoed at 280. One thing that will suck is if chicago gets a lot of snow. Hopefully you got a good beater.
Originally Posted by Slider
Uhh FWD is way easier to control then a RWD car in the winter. You may not have the same control as a RWD car but FWD is much more predictable and much easier to correct than oversteer.
You go accelerate in a turn in a FWD, the car starts to understeer, you slowly let off the throttle the car gets back in line as you get more traction. If you ever get in a situation in a FWD car where you are oversteering (rare), don't brake!, steadily start accelerating and trying to straightening out by steering. The acceleration will put the weight in the back giving the rear tires more traction, and straightening it out.
You accelerate in a turn with a RWD car, the car starts to over steer, with the front end pointing at a ditch and light poles. If you let off the gas or brake more weight gets taken off the rear wheels resulting in even less traction in the rear and more oversteer. Now this will be a little harder to correct.
As long you're careful with a RWD car you should be fine. Just be easy with the accelerator during turns. Avoid accelerating in turns during very slippery conditions if you're not sure how the car will react. The mustang has a lot of torque so be gentle with the throttle in the winter.
You go accelerate in a turn in a FWD, the car starts to understeer, you slowly let off the throttle the car gets back in line as you get more traction. If you ever get in a situation in a FWD car where you are oversteering (rare), don't brake!, steadily start accelerating and trying to straightening out by steering. The acceleration will put the weight in the back giving the rear tires more traction, and straightening it out.
You accelerate in a turn with a RWD car, the car starts to over steer, with the front end pointing at a ditch and light poles. If you let off the gas or brake more weight gets taken off the rear wheels resulting in even less traction in the rear and more oversteer. Now this will be a little harder to correct.
As long you're careful with a RWD car you should be fine. Just be easy with the accelerator during turns. Avoid accelerating in turns during very slippery conditions if you're not sure how the car will react. The mustang has a lot of torque so be gentle with the throttle in the winter.
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never kne that you shouldnt brake when a fwd car starts to understeer. maybe that would have helped me today in the rain when i hit a curb. i am glad that nothing got bent or anything like that. jsy the stillen rip got ripped off the car but it is flexible as hell so it didnt crack or brake. that is what saved me from bedning my suspension up.
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Originally Posted by vsamoylov
never kne that you shouldnt brake when a fwd car starts to understeer. maybe that would have helped me today in the rain when i hit a curb. i am glad that nothing got bent or anything like that. jsy the stillen rip got ripped off the car but it is flexible as hell so it didnt crack or brake. that is what saved me from bedning my suspension up.
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Originally Posted by MAX2000JP
My 2000 Maxima is a piece of garbage. It has 69k miles and lately I am working on it weekly. Nissan quality is garbage, you can see it go downhill as the every generation progresses. Here is a list of the quality Nissan parts and systems that have failed within the last 2 months.
-MTX blew up. The differential wrist pin came out and caused an "explosion" in the casing. The car had 64k miles on it when this happened. Had the car looked at by my friend who builds race cars, the wrist pin was either machined improperly or not stamped in properly. Strike that one up to Nissan. I replaced the tranny with a boneyard one, 4 hours of fun.
-VIAS is broken once again- The Variable Intake system on the 5th gens was poorly designed and the rod breaks, which causes the system to not engage. I haven't fixed it, no big deal, I really don't care.
-A/C Compressor Clutch failed- This part wasn't built by Nissan but a supplier. I cannot remember the name that was stamped on the compressor. The A/C Compressor clutch started to make a bearing noise and was smoking. Turned out that the snap wring holding the bearing together came lose and lodged itself into the cluch itself. Replaced the compressor myself, about an 1 1/2 worth of fun. Nice quality part!
Today: Exhaust broke. Last week on a road trip, my exhaust hangar just behind the cat broke, which cause it to bang against the crossmember. Quite annoying so I fixed it. Looked like a very poor quality weld which snapped, rigged it back together...Easy fix. Today, my exhaust start leaking, GREAT. I was driving to school and got a hint of wheel hop because it was damp out. Suddenly my exhaust gets LOUD. Just took a look at it, the weld on the flange that connects the muffler and b-pipe snapped. The exhaust exits now after the b-pipe, not muffler. I'll have to weld it back together on Monday, yay! Great quality weld there Nissan
Sorry for the rant...I am going tomorrow to my local Ford dealer to buy an 05' Mustang. Might as well have a new car with a warranty.
-MTX blew up. The differential wrist pin came out and caused an "explosion" in the casing. The car had 64k miles on it when this happened. Had the car looked at by my friend who builds race cars, the wrist pin was either machined improperly or not stamped in properly. Strike that one up to Nissan. I replaced the tranny with a boneyard one, 4 hours of fun.
-VIAS is broken once again- The Variable Intake system on the 5th gens was poorly designed and the rod breaks, which causes the system to not engage. I haven't fixed it, no big deal, I really don't care.
-A/C Compressor Clutch failed- This part wasn't built by Nissan but a supplier. I cannot remember the name that was stamped on the compressor. The A/C Compressor clutch started to make a bearing noise and was smoking. Turned out that the snap wring holding the bearing together came lose and lodged itself into the cluch itself. Replaced the compressor myself, about an 1 1/2 worth of fun. Nice quality part!
Today: Exhaust broke. Last week on a road trip, my exhaust hangar just behind the cat broke, which cause it to bang against the crossmember. Quite annoying so I fixed it. Looked like a very poor quality weld which snapped, rigged it back together...Easy fix. Today, my exhaust start leaking, GREAT. I was driving to school and got a hint of wheel hop because it was damp out. Suddenly my exhaust gets LOUD. Just took a look at it, the weld on the flange that connects the muffler and b-pipe snapped. The exhaust exits now after the b-pipe, not muffler. I'll have to weld it back together on Monday, yay! Great quality weld there Nissan
Sorry for the rant...I am going tomorrow to my local Ford dealer to buy an 05' Mustang. Might as well have a new car with a warranty.
I have the chronic pinging problem, even after having all 6 coils replaced. It's now consuming lots of oil between changes. Many rattles and clunks, etc.
Keeping it in perspective I can say that it's given me less trouble then my friend's father's M5 and S4.
Hey good luck with the 'Stang. Hope it's all it seems to be in the reviews.
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