LSD Question
03-16-2005, 06:55 PM
#7
Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
If its a DOHC and a 92, you have a VE engine and an SE body.. So yes you do have an LSD...congrats... The only turd gen worth owning.
03-16-2005, 06:59 PM
#9
Ask in the third gen forums... they know all about it in there and I saw your other thread. Its not the same as a 97 engine. You have a VE which came ONLY in SE's from 92 to 94. From 95 to 99 ALL Maximas brought VQ engines which were totally different. Enjoy your new car.. and like I said, check in third gen world land.
03-16-2005, 07:02 PM
#10
Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
Torque steer? I really wouldnt know.
VE 5 speeds came with lsd stock. In the rain or especially the snow if you accelerate and both wheels go you have lsd.. I'm sure you know that already...
VE 5 speeds came with lsd stock. In the rain or especially the snow if you accelerate and both wheels go you have lsd.. I'm sure you know that already...
an LSD VE can I just look under the car and identify it? I've always bought cars that were already modded and fast, this is the first that I'm going to mod from the ground up.
I have someone in NYC who has built turbos for maximas already and he told me if I dont have LSD, I could crash if I decided to mod the car like lets say 300+ hp.
03-18-2005, 04:52 AM
#11
Originally Posted by Studio718
When i accelerate in the snow it pulls to the left also, when i do a burn out also.
an LSD VE can I just look under the car and identify it? I've always bought cars that were already modded and fast, this is the first that I'm going to mod from the ground up.
I have someone in NYC who has built turbos for maximas already and he told me if I dont have LSD, I could crash if I decided to mod the car like lets say 300+ hp.
an LSD VE can I just look under the car and identify it? I've always bought cars that were already modded and fast, this is the first that I'm going to mod from the ground up.
I have someone in NYC who has built turbos for maximas already and he told me if I dont have LSD, I could crash if I decided to mod the car like lets say 300+ hp.
However, I do on my 95 and it does not stop torque steer, nor did it on my 97 which has LSD also.
03-18-2005, 08:27 AM
#12
Pulling to the left or right during acceleration has nothing to do with whether or not you have LSD. Torque steer is caused by unequal length drive shafts which all maximas have. LSD doesn't prevent torque steer, it lessens the possibility of spinning only one tire.
03-18-2005, 11:59 AM
#13
Originally Posted by Ant96GLE
Torque steer? I really wouldnt know.
VE 5 speeds came with lsd stock. In the rain or especially the snow if you accelerate and both wheels go you have lsd.. I'm sure you know that already...
VE 5 speeds came with lsd stock. In the rain or especially the snow if you accelerate and both wheels go you have lsd.. I'm sure you know that already...
03-18-2005, 12:10 PM
#14
is there a reason you posted in both forums?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=388657
to answer your question, it was an option on 92-94 SE models. most of them had it. This was already explained in the previous post as well.
RS5F50A was non-LSD, RS5F50V was LSD.
jack up the car and put it in neutral. spin one of the tires. if they both go the same direction, you have LSD. If they turn opposite directions, then you don't have LSD (or the LSD has failed).
you will be fine with over 300HP even without the LSD. whoever told you that you would wreck the car is a moron and shouldn't be touching cars at all.
as for the torque steer, check the rest of your suspsneion. ball joints, control arm bushings, tie rod ends. they're all common to be worn on a car this old and all will cause the car to pull when you get on the gas.
It has nothing to do with unequal length axles. that makes absolutele no difference in torque steer unless you're putting down enough power to twist the axles significantly- which isn't the case until you're putting 300+ hp to the ground.
torque steer is often worse on an LSD tranny because you'll have one tire gripping while the other side slips a bit. it will pull one direction. then the slipping tire grabs and the other breaks loose, causing it to pull the other direction.. fun stuff.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=388657
to answer your question, it was an option on 92-94 SE models. most of them had it. This was already explained in the previous post as well.
RS5F50A was non-LSD, RS5F50V was LSD.
jack up the car and put it in neutral. spin one of the tires. if they both go the same direction, you have LSD. If they turn opposite directions, then you don't have LSD (or the LSD has failed).
you will be fine with over 300HP even without the LSD. whoever told you that you would wreck the car is a moron and shouldn't be touching cars at all.
as for the torque steer, check the rest of your suspsneion. ball joints, control arm bushings, tie rod ends. they're all common to be worn on a car this old and all will cause the car to pull when you get on the gas.
It has nothing to do with unequal length axles. that makes absolutele no difference in torque steer unless you're putting down enough power to twist the axles significantly- which isn't the case until you're putting 300+ hp to the ground.
torque steer is often worse on an LSD tranny because you'll have one tire gripping while the other side slips a bit. it will pull one direction. then the slipping tire grabs and the other breaks loose, causing it to pull the other direction.. fun stuff.
03-18-2005, 12:22 PM
#15
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
jack up the car and put it in neutral. spin one of the tires. if they both go the same direction, you have LSD. If they turn opposite directions, then you don't have LSD (or the LSD has failed).
as for the torque steer, check the rest of your suspsneion. ball joints, control arm bushings, tie rod ends.
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as for the torque steer, check the rest of your suspsneion. ball joints, control arm bushings, tie rod ends.
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03-18-2005, 08:58 PM
#16
Originally Posted by Matt93SE
It has nothing to do with unequal length axles. that makes absolutele no difference in torque steer unless you're putting down enough power to twist the axles significantly- which isn't the case until you're putting 300+ hp to the ground.
Quoted from a tech article on nissanperformancemag.com:
Torque steer is when your engine is steering the car, not you. Pounding on the accelerator causes the car to twist the direction of the tire getting more torque. Torque steer is created from a moment or leverage arm created by the relationship between an imaginary line projected through the Kingpin inclination angle and the centerline of the tire. Kingpin inclination angle is the line drawn through the upper and lower ball joints on a multilink car and projected to the ground. On a McPherson strut car, it's the line drawn between the upper shock mount through the ball joint as projected to the ground. The distance from this point to the center of the tires contact patch is a moment arm or a leverage point where the torque can pull the steering off center. Another cause of torque steer is unequal length driveshafts. When the axles are not of equal length, the CV joints are at unequal angles. This allows more torque to reach one wheel than the other. Nonsymmetrical driveshaft angles (including equal axle length cars when cornering) and lengths are the primary cause of torque steer but the problem can be compounded by suspension, worn or loose control arm bushings, worn or loose tie rods, broken or loose engine mounts, engine movements, alignment, unequal tire pressures, and road surface.
Also, first section, first bullet, of this paper published by Ford Motor Company, and I quote:
-Non-symmetric driveshaft angles e.g. non-symmetric design of the vehicle e.g. different driveshaft length
View the paper herehttp://www.mscsoftware.com/support/l...C_008_FORD.pdf
It has alot to do with non-equal length driveshafts.
03-19-2005, 05:06 PM
#18
Take a look at our suspension when the car is on the ground and tell me how much of an angle our CVs are. also look at the lenghts of them between the joints. they're within about 1-2" of each other from looking at them.
that much difference isn't going to cause the stuff they're talking about, as well as the fact that theory isn't entirely truthful.
the torque is supplied DOWN the shaft, not across it. you're looking at fractions of a percent difference between a shaft at 5* bends and one at 10* bends.. that's why a CV is a CV.
the car pulling when you get on/off the gas is usually more due to worn suspension bits- tie rod ends, ball joints, difference in tire sizes and amounts of traction. there's too many factors there, but unequal CV lengths is a very small part of the equation- one that you can pretty much throw away in a Maxima. It's just not an issue.
that much difference isn't going to cause the stuff they're talking about, as well as the fact that theory isn't entirely truthful.
the torque is supplied DOWN the shaft, not across it. you're looking at fractions of a percent difference between a shaft at 5* bends and one at 10* bends.. that's why a CV is a CV.
the car pulling when you get on/off the gas is usually more due to worn suspension bits- tie rod ends, ball joints, difference in tire sizes and amounts of traction. there's too many factors there, but unequal CV lengths is a very small part of the equation- one that you can pretty much throw away in a Maxima. It's just not an issue.
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