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Old May 29, 2001 | 09:24 PM
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My good buddy trade in his 98 I30(56k miles) for a 98GTP(17k mile). My question is this a good or bad trade? I have been in the GTP and it's sweet. But, I am not sure if I like it though. I think he should just get a supercharger for his I30 if he wanted the extra horses! Well, what do you guys think, or should have done?
Old May 29, 2001 | 10:56 PM
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wtf

your friend is on crack... the GTP is a piece of crap in my opinion. personally i think all domestics are poorly made, and have horrible resale value. i would never even consider a domestic car short of a C5 vette, and to think of trading a nice I30 for a GTP... my god whats he thinking.

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Old May 29, 2001 | 10:57 PM
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Re: wtf

Originally posted by Nealoc187
your friend is on crack... the GTP is a piece of crap in my opinion. personally i think all domestics are poorly made, and have horrible resale value. i would never even consider a domestic car short of a C5 vette, and to think of trading a nice I30 for a GTP... my god whats he thinking.

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different people have different opinions?
Old May 30, 2001 | 01:30 AM
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Well, depends, did he get cash out of the deal, or still owes more on the GTP now?


Not all domestics are crap, regardless of what some of the strictly "import" crowd thinks. Their have been plenty of junk imports not too long ago as well. I think the domestics will be picking up pace very shortly. The GTP is a great well made car, but agree going from the I30 is downgrading, not upgrading to a "better" car as a trade-in.

As for domestics, like to say another word or two

GM is cooking up some cool things. The new Cadi STS will be RWD, and deep into the 300s in HP. The next gen Camaro (even if they do skip a few years after 02) will be back on this same platform. Also, the 32V northstar in not a junk engine, nor is the LS1, The Lincon LS is not a junk car, and we can all agree the C5 is the best bang for the buck. Nissan/Infiniti does not have that great of a resell value either.
Old May 30, 2001 | 02:53 AM
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yooooohoooo

the GTP only comes in auto
booo hiiss
Old May 30, 2001 | 09:32 PM
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Originally posted by TexMaximum
Well, depends, did he get cash out of the deal, or still owes more on the GTP now?


Not all domestics are crap, regardless of what some of the strictly "import" crowd thinks. Their have been plenty of junk imports not too long ago as well. I think the domestics will be picking up pace very shortly. The GTP is a great well made car, but agree going from the I30 is downgrading, not upgrading to a "better" car as a trade-in.

As for domestics, like to say another word or two

GM is cooking up some cool things. The new Cadi STS will be RWD, and deep into the 300s in HP. The next gen Camaro (even if they do skip a few years after 02) will be back on this same platform. Also, the 32V northstar in not a junk engine, nor is the LS1, The Lincon LS is not a junk car, and we can all agree the C5 is the best bang for the buck. Nissan/Infiniti does not have that great of a resell value either.
Nah, He still owes money with the GTP. He don't like to drive stick anyway so I figure that's the reason he got rid of his I30. And he doesn't plan to keep the GTP that long too. He's planning on getting a Lincoln LSS in the future, at least that's what he says.
Old May 30, 2001 | 09:38 PM
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Does he owe more on the GTP then he did on the I30? If so, I don't think that would be too good of a trade.
Old May 30, 2001 | 09:40 PM
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I don't think I like American cars, so my opinion wouldn't help.
Old May 31, 2001 | 09:39 AM
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I have been in GTP's and they are pretty sweet. You could just SC the current I30 or Max too, but whatever floats your boat. I prefer imports because of a bad run of luck with the family's domestics, BUT there are some nice domestics as well.
Old May 31, 2001 | 01:28 PM
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Originally posted by TexMaximum
Well, depends, did he get cash out of the deal, or still owes more on the GTP now?


Not all domestics are crap, regardless of what some of the strictly "import" crowd thinks. Their have been plenty of junk imports not too long ago as well. I think the domestics will be picking up pace very shortly. The GTP is a great well made car, but agree going from the I30 is downgrading, not upgrading to a "better" car as a trade-in.

As for domestics, like to say another word or two

GM is cooking up some cool things. The new Cadi STS will be RWD, and deep into the 300s in HP. The next gen Camaro (even if they do skip a few years after 02) will be back on this same platform. Also, the 32V northstar in not a junk engine, nor is the LS1, The Lincon LS is not a junk car, and we can all agree the C5 is the best bang for the buck. Nissan/Infiniti does not have that great of a resell value either.
In my opinion GM makes THE WORST cars on the road, I would never, ever in my life own one of their POS's. Just look at Consumer Reports which is basically all I know that you can use to gauge reliability, and it has a list of used cars to avoid and almost every single one of them is American. I swear almost every person I know who has owned a GM vehicle has run into problems with their auto tranny. The Grand Prix is one nice looking car, but whats the point if it doesnt stay together. A year or so ago of the major car magazines ( cant remember which one) had an article about best used cars to buy, and one of them was the Cadillacs with the 300Hp Northstar, and one of the things I remember it saying was that the engine should only be good for 100,000 miles and I was like how the hell the could they even put that in a list of used cars to buy when the engine only lasts 100,000, I guess the were just going on performance. Im not saying GM or American manufacturers dont make good or even great performing cars, but they need to get some build quality.
Old May 31, 2001 | 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by zzeeoo


Nah, He still owes money with the GTP. He don't like to drive stick anyway so I figure that's the reason he got rid of his I30. And he doesn't plan to keep the GTP that long too. He's planning on getting a Lincoln LSS in the future, at least that's what he says.
He is crazy. He gave up one of the best V6's ever made for a V6 that isn't one of the best.
Old May 31, 2001 | 05:55 PM
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Old May 31, 2001 | 09:15 PM
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LOL. Well from that I have read, the GTP/Grand Prix has gotten all kinds of good marks from consumer digest to good house keeping I don't think it was a good trade either though.
Old Jun 1, 2001 | 04:58 AM
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Originally posted by TexMaximum
LOL. Well from that I have read, the GTP/Grand Prix has gotten all kinds of good marks from consumer digest to good house keeping I don't think it was a good trade either though.
Tex, I have driven the GP GT. The quality of those cars among many other American cars is terrible. Looks like the interiors were designed by Fisher Price. No American vehicles for me unless I buy I conversion van.
Old Jun 1, 2001 | 01:54 PM
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Fisher Price, LOL, very good point. I don't like the style either, and don't have one, but, I have NOT seen one GTP with the interior all falling apart after a few years, so I guess its just a matter of taste.

You know what other car I think has a Fisher Price Dash, the Acura TL. It is far behind the I30T and even the Maxima, from a look, feel and fitment standpoint. It looks like one big piece of rubber. I has shocked of something like this from hoda/acura. The passanger air bag cover was even sticking up in the brand new TL trype S I tried.
Old Jun 3, 2001 | 07:09 PM
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Originally posted by TexMaximum
I have NOT seen one GTP with the interior all falling apart after a few years, so I guess its just a matter of taste.
Take a look at the outside of the car after a few years. This is where you will find things falling apart. No Lie!
Old Jun 4, 2001 | 12:56 PM
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maybe your right. Pontiac uses too much plastic. However, most American cars are known for poor interior build quality.
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