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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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Question on my HID

I just put on 8K Hid kit and lately people have been upset and flashing their lights to me cause is blinding them and this doesnt happen all the time only the people that doesnt know nothing about HID. Now i could go lower like 7k or 6k but i do want to have that blue light with it.
Any suggestion or help that would be great
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Old Apr 9, 2006 | 10:21 PM
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it wont help you if you go lower in kelvins, if anything you will put out more light. you prolly have some no name brand ebay kit.
Old Apr 9, 2006 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by elgatomax
I just put on 8K Hid kit and lately people have been upset and flashing their lights to me cause is blinding them and this doesnt happen all the time only the people that doesnt know nothing about HID. Now i could go lower like 7k or 6k but i do want to have that blue light with it.
Any suggestion or help that would be great
thanks

Like VIP said a lower Kelvin won't help. Did you simply put retrofit bulbs in your stock headlights? If so you were bound to have these glare issues. You could try blacking out your headlights or actually fitting projectors in your headlight housings.
Old Apr 9, 2006 | 11:13 PM
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On that issue why is it that some manufacturers fitted HID's into halogen headlights and doesnt seem as much glare in the headlights Acura BMW Merc Nissan Lexus all did this before using projectors yet not as much glare from those headlights
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 04:56 AM
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On that issue why is it that some manufacturers fitted HID's into halogen headlights and doesnt seem as much glare in the headlights Acura BMW Merc Nissan Lexus all did this before using projectors yet not as much glare from those headlights
prove it.........
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 05:54 AM
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Will lowering the aim of the headlights help at all in this case?
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:26 AM
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On that issue why is it that some manufacturers fitted HID's into halogen headlights and doesnt seem as much glare in the headlights Acura BMW Merc Nissan Lexus all did this before using projectors yet not as much glare from those headlights

if you ever take a good look at those light while its on, ther are feflected only to bounce light from the upper half of the headlight houseing reflector, they have made a dot oem compliant d2r shield that refelcts the light back towards the housing but only utilizes the upper half of that housing therefore controlling glare and improving light output, it doesn't matter how high k u have or higher wattage if you don't have the proper reflecotors or shields to properly adjust and control that light you jsut get hotspots and glare, I would go with an hid retofit proejctor into and oem housing, controls glare and prabally the closest you can get to DOT compliant.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 06:27 AM
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Will lowering the aim of the headlights help at all in this case?
you will jsut increase hotspots and decrease light output, i've tried it on my integra and it was bright as hell like 10feet in front of me then dark, no light output at all.
Old Apr 11, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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i did put a black cover infront of it..It looks great on it cause i have a black car but again i rather have it without it. I like my hid but i just dont want to pist people off to much. Have anyone experiences this with a 8K

I did not bought this from ebay.
Old Apr 11, 2006 | 08:54 AM
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I put a plug and play HID kit on my 96 OEM headlights and yes, YOU ARE BLINDING EVERYONE... I know, why? when someone walking on the sidewalk has to put their hand over their eyes when I drive by, es, that is bright... when I can cast shadows of the cars in front of me on the highway signs, yes, you are bright and high...

problem is, 95-96 Headlights don't have the "cap" that bounces the light backtowards reflective surface before being shot out... with th e95-96 headlights, it's pure light, just as if you were holding the HID bulb in front of you...
Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:01 AM
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HIDs in regular housing will be bad no matter how you aim it. Halogen housings are made to reflect halogen bulbs. The best option is to retro projectors that were made for HIDs. The projector will have a better beam pattern anyways and the cut off looks great if done right.
Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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i got away with it for about 3 years.. then i got rid of the 9004 HID kit.. Lowering the headlights did seam to help some. But on really dark roads i would still get flashed.
Old Apr 11, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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4th Gen housings are particularly bad when it comes to glare.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 02:03 PM
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Would these headlights help with Plug and Play HID Kits? Was thinking about getting the Helios 6k HID kit.

Old Apr 12, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DragonMaxima
Would these headlights help with Plug and Play HID Kits? Was thinking about getting the Helios 6k HID kit.

have the same headlights with 6k, better light output, less glare.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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What about these-

Old Apr 12, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SMX95
have the same headlights with 6k, better light output, less glare.
The picture in your Sig is that the color of the 6k HID's?
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by naijai
On that issue why is it that some manufacturers fitted HID's into halogen headlights and doesnt seem as much glare in the headlights Acura BMW Merc Nissan Lexus all did this before using projectors yet not as much glare from those headlights
They're not halogen headlights, they're reflector housings. HID reflectors have been specially designed to minimize glare, they have a special shield and design that creates a sharp cutoff. This wasn't needed for halogen reflector because halogens don't naturally produce nearly as much glare. There are also two different types of projectors, halogen and HID projectors, if you put an HID bulb in a halogen reflector you will also generate glare.

BTW I don't think BMW ever used reflectors for HIDs.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 09:11 PM
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so is there a solution to maximize light output and minimize the glare without retrofitting??

does blacking the housing out make that much of a difference?
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 11:52 PM
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Try a casper shield. That may reduce some glare.
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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hope that good luck will do
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SMX95
have the same headlights with 6k, better light output, less glare.
Does 6k have a blue tint with it.. And does it blind other people
Old Apr 13, 2006 | 07:37 PM
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I think your missing the point. You need to change out the headlight housing to keep the glare to a minimum.

6k is more of a white color with a hint of blue.
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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I wish someone (not me ) would experiment. With the glass/lens off and hid bulb installed, put a piece of cardboard or whatever to cover the bottom reflective portion of the light and see if it cuts the glare. Then try to tape it to the top portion and see the results again. I'm not advocating plug and play kits, but the reason people get flashed is the glare, if it wasn't for that there wouldn't be much problem. The beam pattern would still be 90% very bright in a 10ft distance in front and 10% light output beyond that, projectors just control the light better to give you a more even light output. Good fore ground light and good distance lighting as well. 5th gens have d2r so there has to be a way.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by DragonMaxima
The picture in your Sig is that the color of the 6k HID's?
No those are AE-modded stock glass 95-96 headlights. with 7ks. More purple than that color. Just how the camera took it. As you can tell even in that pic there is a lot of glare. New ones are way better.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DragonMaxima
What about these-

Nope...Your only hope is a projector retrofit or getting one of these...


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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Do they make that in a 9004 bulb?

I believe that's for the H4 only.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 07:02 PM
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You need to cut-off the beam on the bottom to creat the line on the top of your light spectrum. The bulb covers above is one option or you can make something similar to that or a sheild to cove the bottom of the the reflector.
Regular head lights are made to create a round beam that is not so bright. Where the HID are much brighter and need to be cut-off, You can see in factory HID that the light has a specific cut-off. Hell in my Murano I can even ajust the height of that from in the car.
Old Apr 15, 2006 | 08:18 PM
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maybe just get 4100k hid kit or something if you don't want to retrofit projectors in your headlights. all the higher K's will give lesser light but the color will make it seem like it's more glare. on my previous car i put 4300k kit in halogen reflectors and it didn't produce as much glare as my friend's 8000k. but i guess you can aim the lights lower like i did too but either way you'll still be giving out a lot of glare. that's one reason why hid kits are being banned.
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by elgatomax
..... people have been upset and flashing their lights to me cause is blinding them and this doesnt happen all the time only the people that doesnt know nothing about HID........
thanks
what is it they dont know? They know the glare from your illegal HID kit is blinding them....... they sound a little more informed than you
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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lower them or get the cutoff, i hate people driving with HID glares, you should let someone else drive your car and you see how annoying it is....
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