http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NISSA...spagenameZWD1V

what's the chance this thing even freakin works? Looks like a scam.

 

Somewhere between slim and none. This has been posted before I'll look for the thread. Are you still looking at the other plug in scanner unit?

 

You can buy one here for $95 which is a working Consult for 4th Gens with software. I have one and it works great on my 95. Does tons of stuff you can't to with an OBDII reader and its much faster.

http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/consult_if.shtml

Don't get me wrong this one on Ebay may be ok, I just don't know for sure.

 

Woah. Looks pretty good. Excellent actually. Don't know why more people haven't discovered this.. Jime, could you give me a rundown of the difference between this and a good OBDII scanner? Are we still f'd for timing advance with a 4th gen? Also is A/F tweakable?

 

You can mess a little with settings like turning fans on and off, timing, no a/f, this is just a consult I clone, not sure if it does everything the real consult I does but it sure is a step above the OBDII. Any setting you do make are gone when the car is shut off. You aren't going to get timing advance for that price.

I like the timing goodies, ie 0-60, 0-100, xx-xxx. Starts and stops automatically so quite accurate.

There is lots of stuff you can play with but I haven't spent a lot of time with it.

The best way to do your timing is with the Emanage Ultimate. Just the rev limiter is worth its price let alone timing, a/f, 2 step etc.

 

Yeah I was looking at the EU. You have EU too right? I guess you could get this plus EU on top of it later.

 

Correct but the Conzult is a good start with a great software package. I have both running along with the wideband at all times.

 

Which sensor are you using? Or did you put it together yourself? So you are utilizing the A/F logging/monitoring on the Consult with that wideband, or the EU, or both? What kind of laptop do you have in there? I was thinking about getting a nice small used hitachi toshiba or something, my dell is too big. I don't know if I'd want it in my car. I'd like to have something I could build a under-seat case for (passenger side) so that I could stow it when I'm not using it.

Oh and you have both the EU and the Consult hooked up to the same laptop of course right?

 

Bosch sensor and a Techedge wideband. No monitoring on the Consult the EU will do it all. I am using a Dell Latitude laptop.

I have the EU, Consult as well as the Techedge all running on the same laptop. Both the EU and Techedge show the a/f from the wideband. I also have a Weatherstation connected as well for ET predicting. One serial and three usb inputs. I am also running an OBDII reader on my Palm, so lots of info available.

Just installed line pressure and fluid temp gauges for the trans as well.

 

Nice. Yeah I would probably use whatever laptop that goes in as:

OBDII input.. if that scanner ever comes out and works for 4th gens (the one from 5th gen forum gd)

OR this consult (which I've pretty much been sold on)

Wideband/EU input

Media player ->headphone jack out to line in on my digifine

GPS -> Garmin has some good stuff, I was waiting for the Mobile20 and I was going to get an MDA to go with it, but now I'm reconsidering. I get lost easily.

 

Jeez so what does the Consult do that the EU doesn't? heh.. I suppose it has some really simple awesome functions but I haven't really ever played with any of them so I can't nail it down. Seems like you have pretty much full control over your car. What rev limit do you use? I was thinking about going between 7200-7500 depending on whether or not I ever find a good VI to put in.

Thinking back.. I still remember reading about your car in modified mag back in the day. That was awesome.

 

Looking at the original link, the eformance company seems more reputable. I will probably consider it if someone doesn't get me the PLMS consult for bday. The only real difference I guess would probably just be the software.

 

serioulsy i wanna if this thingk i legit or not, i spotted this thing months ago and i posted it on the 4th gen forums, everybody flamed it.

 

Well I don't know about the Eformance. Although it does seem more reputable than just an ebay modchip scam. But it's the same basic thing as the PMLS that Jime has, and Jime knows wtf he's doing.

 

someone should get the ebay one to compare.. I am starting to think the software is nearly universal and will work on any of these units, from what i'm reading. They all seem to be the same basic unit.

 

AFAIK the software is universal, I have tried 4 or 5 different ones, ie Calumsult, Conzult, Nissan DataScan, ZTalk etc and they all worked although DataScan is my preference so I purchased it.

 

I'm probably going with the BlaZt.biz one which works also with datascan. they have a datalogger too. and straight USB cable, no converters or junction box. Now the decision is go with my dell or get a nice cheap small ebay laptop

 

I definitely would love to take a look when you get it up and running!

 

...............................................:mr gone:

 

are these just OBDII readers??

 

that ebay thing looks ghetto compared to the nicer boxed ones like plms. DataScan is fun.
Jae

 

The ebay thing imo looks pretty much exactly like the others. I went with the BlaZt w/ datascan and datalog. It should be here soon

 

BTW Kevin!

 

I have the Blazt cable and all the programs, including DataScan which works well, but my #1 choice is OBDScantech. Although it has OBD in the title it is actually a Consult clone and has a few more features than the DataScan, plus it can be customized for use with different years, unlike the DataScan.

That plus EU and you have powerful control and datlogging capabilities.

 

so the obdscantech is software, does it work with your blazt cable? I'll definately check it out. My focus is going to be to find a good program for the blazt cable that works on a tmobile mda with windows mobile 5

 

Hmm, my blazt cable + datascan 1.51 isn't working. I registered NDS and changed port to 4 (I have usb model) and I click connect, nothing. won't read the ecu # and it just does nothing. I have tried everything and am following the steps from blazt website exactly.

 

Mr Obvious here but did you download the USB drivers?

 

I tried obdscantech, autoscan fails at register 23.
ecutalk doesn't do anything, nor does datascan 1.51
when i did the ecu scan on obdscantech E7 came up as a register?

I don't know what any of this means, but could it be related to obdII scanners not working on my car?

 

I used the ones included on the blazt disk. I DID notice they weren't windows XP certified, but does that crap really matter?

 

K I redownloaded and installed the usb drivers from blazt.biz. gonna try again.

 

Exact same result from all three. Auto scan on obdscantech stops at register
#23 (scanning 00-FF)

Does anyone know how to test my consolt port to make sure the voltages are up to spec? I have noticed in the past also that the obdII scanners I've tried don't work on the obdII port, when I have a CEL they come up blank, no data.

The only way I have ever been able to pull codes on my car is the old fashioned turn the screw and watch the MIL light method. I figured the Consult port would be exempt from the cheapo OBDII scanner's errors, perhaps this is in the ECU itself? Both the obdII and consult ports interface with the ECU right? I wonder if this would work if I simply swapped the ECU out with a different one. Too bad I don't have one laying around. I need to get some sleep, I'll test this on my Stanza in a bit, see if that works. Stanza isn't listed on blazt or data scan's site as tested/working, however it is basically the equivelent of a FWD DOHC s13, or a 1st gen altima.

edit: if my ECU was faulty in readouts of both the consult and obd ports, who's to say it'd even throw codes that are retrievable, acurate, and resetable anyhow? Come on, someone please chime in with some insight here.

 

100NX '93 2.0 GTI (=NX coupe) (SR20DE)

180SX S13 (SR20DET)

200SX S14 (SR20DET), S15 (SR20DET)

Almera N15 GTI (SR20DE), NX (GA16DE)

Altima (KA24DE)

Autech S15 (SR20DE)

Avenir PWN10 (SR20DE)

Bluebird U14 (SR18DE), U15 (SR20DET)

Cefiro A32 (VQ20DE)

Fairlady 300ZX Z32 (VG30DE), Z32 (VG30DETT)

Maxima A32 (VQ30DE)

Micra K11 (CG13DE/CG10DE)

NX/NXR Coupe (SR20DE)

Primera HP10 (SR20DET), P10 (SR20DE)

Pulsar N14 (GA16DE), N14 (SR20DE), N15 (GA16DE), GTi (SR18DE)

Sentra B13 SE-R(SR20DE)

Silvia S14 (SR20DE), S15 (SR20DET)

Skyline R32 (RB20DET), R32 (RB20DE), R32 GTR (RB26DETT)

Skyline R33 (RB20DE), R33 (RB25DET), R33 GTR (RB26DETT),

Skyline R34 (RB25DET NEO)


Note

The Software has only been tested on these cars, but could well work on many more. Basically if you have a grey 14pin consult diagnostics port, then it should work fine.

 

I don't see how a obdII scanner wouldn't work on your car, I have one of the generic code readers and when I got it I swore it didn't work...til I realized a hadn't properly secured the connectors.

If you want we could try reading your car with the scanner I have or vice versa and see if the problem is with the scanner/logger or your car.

I'll pull my 97 FSM and see if it says anything about testing the consult port.

 

OBD Scan Tech will not work with the BlazT, its designed for OBDII readers not Consult 1.

Just a couple of things to try for Nissan Data Scan 1.5. This is what mine is set to. Under settings, communications, Port 1, Speed, 9600, Address read command, C9, 96 model z32, blank, Auto connect, checked.

Mine is serial vs USB but it worked first crack.

 

hmm thanks for input guys.

-Jime: those are the settings I had except for the Auto connect, and my cable is on port 4. port 1 says : port error.

 

Btw, OBDscantech does have a newer version (last couple years) that works with the consult.

This Software is free to try but some features are disabled for unregistered users. Works with 1990 - 1999 Nissan vehicles with grey consult connecter. Go to http://www.plmsdevelopments.com or http://www.blazt.biz for the hardware that should work with OBD SCAN TECH (NISSAN)

 

Kenji you are correct I got mixed up between my OBDII software and OBDscantech. My OBDII reader is from Harrison R&D and their software is called OBDScan.

However I did try OBDScantech again and although its ok it doesn't work as well as Nissan DataScan.

 

I attempted to rule out the scanner / software itself as a problem by testing the setup on my 92 stanza, but I was unable to find the consult port on the stanza. I looked all over the car and couldn't find it.

I don't know what else to do at this point.


edit: I guess there is a two stage way to figure it out.

1. D-bo tests his obd scanner on my car
2. I test my consult scanner on his car.

Of course that doesn't 100% rule out my consult port.

 

I don't have anything going on this weekend. PM me if you want to get together.

 

Cool, you want to meet up somewhere tomorrow? (saturday) I work until morning, but should be available from 8-noon. if you aren't an early bird I suppose I could get up early (5ish PM) and meet up with u ne way