My thoughts have changed about stock intakes
#1
Today, just for s*its and giggles, I took out my aftermarket air intake and put the stock airbox back in. Impressions are:
1.)Damn the car is ALOT quieter with the stock in.
2.)I really like the aftermarket intake's sound.
3.)There is a MASSIVE amount of low end torque missing with the aftermarket.
4.)Midrange is equal
5.)High end the aftermarket is slighty better at pulling.
6.)The engine is MUCH more rev happy with the stock.
7.)I also noticed that the stock intake allows for higher RPMs before shifting(I got 6400 in the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts with the stock vs. 6300 and 6100 with the aftermarket).
8.)There is no hesitiation from a standstill with the stock.
Note: The aftermarket was cleaned yesterday, so the comparisons are pretty much equal.
I think I'll keep the stock in for a little while until I have the ***** to put in a CAI.
Any comments?
1.)Damn the car is ALOT quieter with the stock in.
2.)I really like the aftermarket intake's sound.
3.)There is a MASSIVE amount of low end torque missing with the aftermarket.
4.)Midrange is equal
5.)High end the aftermarket is slighty better at pulling.
6.)The engine is MUCH more rev happy with the stock.
7.)I also noticed that the stock intake allows for higher RPMs before shifting(I got 6400 in the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts with the stock vs. 6300 and 6100 with the aftermarket).
8.)There is no hesitiation from a standstill with the stock.
Note: The aftermarket was cleaned yesterday, so the comparisons are pretty much equal.
I think I'll keep the stock in for a little while until I have the ***** to put in a CAI.
Any comments?
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Originally posted by medicsonic
Today, just for s*its and giggles, I took out my aftermarket air intake and put the stock airbox back in. Impressions are:
1.)Damn the car is ALOT quieter with the stock in.
2.)I really like the aftermarket intake's sound.
3.)There is a MASSIVE amount of low end torque missing with the aftermarket.
4.)Midrange is equal
5.)High end the aftermarket is slighty better at pulling.
6.)The engine is MUCH more rev happy with the stock.
7.)I also noticed that the stock intake allows for higher RPMs before shifting(I got 6400 in the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts with the stock vs. 6300 and 6100 with the aftermarket).
8.)There is no hesitiation from a standstill with the stock.
Note: The aftermarket was cleaned yesterday, so the comparisons are pretty much equal.
I think I'll keep the stock in for a little while until I have the ***** to put in a CAI.
Any comments?
Today, just for s*its and giggles, I took out my aftermarket air intake and put the stock airbox back in. Impressions are:
1.)Damn the car is ALOT quieter with the stock in.
2.)I really like the aftermarket intake's sound.
3.)There is a MASSIVE amount of low end torque missing with the aftermarket.
4.)Midrange is equal
5.)High end the aftermarket is slighty better at pulling.
6.)The engine is MUCH more rev happy with the stock.
7.)I also noticed that the stock intake allows for higher RPMs before shifting(I got 6400 in the 1-2 and 2-3 shifts with the stock vs. 6300 and 6100 with the aftermarket).
8.)There is no hesitiation from a standstill with the stock.
Note: The aftermarket was cleaned yesterday, so the comparisons are pretty much equal.
I think I'll keep the stock in for a little while until I have the ***** to put in a CAI.
Any comments?
In my estimation, the OSCAI is the best bang-for-the-buck performance mod available for 5th Gen Maximas.
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Originally posted by medicsonic
Okay, stupid question time. Is it doable with the 4th gens? If so, how? (God I feel like a newbie, no offense newbies!)
Okay, stupid question time. Is it doable with the 4th gens? If so, how? (God I feel like a newbie, no offense newbies!)
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#8
I never said it was better. I have an auto, and cannot rev the engine high enough to compensate for the lack of low end power. I'm wondering if autos would get better 0-60 or 1/4 times with the stock airbox. Hmmm... I can now smoke my 17's, something I couldn't do before with the cone filter.
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Originally posted by medicsonic
I never said it was better. I have an auto, and cannot rev the engine high enough to compensate for the lack of low end power. I'm wondering if autos would get better 0-60 or 1/4 times with the stock airbox. Hmmm... I can now smoke my 17's, something I couldn't do before with the cone filter.
I never said it was better. I have an auto, and cannot rev the engine high enough to compensate for the lack of low end power. I'm wondering if autos would get better 0-60 or 1/4 times with the stock airbox. Hmmm... I can now smoke my 17's, something I couldn't do before with the cone filter.
#10
Originally posted by y2kse
Your comments pretty much parallel what I've experienced with my 5th Gen. Short of a Place Racing CAI, I doubt there's a better overall intake setup than what we refer to as the OSCAI. The OSCAI is a simple modification to the stock airbox that provides an additional cold air source and connects to the existing air scoop. Coupled with a K&N panel filter, the OSCAI provides average gains of 2/10ths of a second in the quarter mile. The OSCAI is 100% safe (provided you don't do something stupid like block the stock air scoop), utterly reliable, and extremely quiet. And it's cheap . . . approximately $65.00 including the cost of the K&N panel filter. It also takes under 20 minutes to install.
In my estimation, the OSCAI is the best bang-for-the-buck performance mod available for 5th Gen Maximas.
Your comments pretty much parallel what I've experienced with my 5th Gen. Short of a Place Racing CAI, I doubt there's a better overall intake setup than what we refer to as the OSCAI. The OSCAI is a simple modification to the stock airbox that provides an additional cold air source and connects to the existing air scoop. Coupled with a K&N panel filter, the OSCAI provides average gains of 2/10ths of a second in the quarter mile. The OSCAI is 100% safe (provided you don't do something stupid like block the stock air scoop), utterly reliable, and extremely quiet. And it's cheap . . . approximately $65.00 including the cost of the K&N panel filter. It also takes under 20 minutes to install.
In my estimation, the OSCAI is the best bang-for-the-buck performance mod available for 5th Gen Maximas.
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#11
Theblue, its okay. When I say that there is a big differnce in the low end, I mean BIG differnce. Something to the order of 10 to 20 percent loss. It all comes back by about 2500 RPMs, but sometimes, thats all you need.
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Originally posted by medicsonic
When I say that there is a big differnce in the low end, I mean BIG differnce. Something to the order of 10 to 20 percent loss. It all comes back by about 2500 RPMs, but sometimes, thats all you need.
When I say that there is a big differnce in the low end, I mean BIG differnce. Something to the order of 10 to 20 percent loss. It all comes back by about 2500 RPMs, but sometimes, thats all you need.
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If it is performance your after you would have your RPM's at least 2500-4000rpm when launching anyways (at least on a 5pd..I would imagine an auto would be at least 2500 as well but I'm really not sure). So any loss of torque below 2500 really would not matter for day to day driving. I might take my stillen high flow off and go oscai myself but no way I'm going back to stock with the Y-Pipe on. I still think pop charger style intake will slow a car down in hot weather. Unless you have a Y-pipe and/or catback I'm not even sure if it is worth to put an intake on.
PS All this time I didn't realize you were driving an auto you "speed demon" you!![Cool](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
PS All this time I didn't realize you were driving an auto you "speed demon" you!
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Originally posted by medicsonic
Theblue, its okay. When I say that there is a big differnce in the low end, I mean BIG differnce. Something to the order of 10 to 20 percent loss. It all comes back by about 2500 RPMs, but sometimes, thats all you need.
Theblue, its okay. When I say that there is a big differnce in the low end, I mean BIG differnce. Something to the order of 10 to 20 percent loss. It all comes back by about 2500 RPMs, but sometimes, thats all you need.
#14
this is why i took mine out too..... i like the low end torque....but i still cant "smoke" my 17s. I can get them to spin everynow and then but nothing major like when i had the 15s on there...maybe medicsonic has a secret
#17
1.)Yes, I do have an automatic, and a damn fast one at that(that's why I call it a GLE-R), as the CT caravan can attest to.
2.)You can't launch an auto at 2500 RPMs, the torque converter evens out lower than that.
3.)I DO have a secret (NOS specifically), but this was done without it.
4.)I CANNOT attest to a CAI setup, this comparison is with a cone intake.
2.)You can't launch an auto at 2500 RPMs, the torque converter evens out lower than that.
3.)I DO have a secret (NOS specifically), but this was done without it.
4.)I CANNOT attest to a CAI setup, this comparison is with a cone intake.
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