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Old 10-18-2000 | 02:03 PM
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I just got the Dec issue and they test the turbo 2k maxima from JWT. Let me cut to the chase baseline dyno was 190hp @ 6400rpm, 184lb-ft @ 3800rpm. Well now JWT's turbo car does 271lb-ft @ 3900rpm and 232hp @ 5000rpm . One thing is for sure it might not have alot of power but damn this thing has torque. it has around 160lb-ft at 2000, 200lb-ft at 3000, 268lb-ft at 4000, 240lb-ft at 5000. This car features a T3/T04B hybrid turbo, JWT exhaust manifolds, FMIC, JWT ECU. According to SCC's testing the stock 2k max ran a 0-60 of 7.4 and 1/4 of 15.5 @ 91.3mph (WTF??). JWT's car did 6.6 and 14.7 @ 97.3 respectively. It also says that the car runs from 6-10psi of boost depending on load and gear. Did I forget to mention the stock clutch was used to. This is probably why the times where so high for the boosted car.
Old 10-18-2000 | 02:11 PM
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Wow, the Dec. issue already? I just bought the Nov. issue yesterday. Do you have a subscription?

Well cool on the turbo deal. Did they mention the possibility of a 2K kit? Sounds like it needs some fine tuning before it will be really ready.

Old 10-18-2000 | 02:58 PM
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What???

WTF? My Maxima is nearly as quick as this turbo Max? I'm running 14.9s and achieving trap speeds of 96mph+ all the while getting seriously bad 60 foots.

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Old 10-18-2000 | 03:26 PM
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A turbo max....

running 14.7@97? That's weak.
Old 10-18-2000 | 03:30 PM
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Its more like a weak clutch, my SE-R clutch is fine for normal driving but when I get on it. It won't chrip 1-2 shift and it slips during quick shifting at WOT. Given the fact that the engine damn near puts 90lb-ft more to the wheels no wonder teh stock clutch was slipping. I bet that with an upgrade it would have ran low 14's with a 5 sec 0-60.
Old 10-18-2000 | 03:31 PM
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yea.....its all realative......

Look....they got 7.4 so 60 when stock....thats lame! Even the slower 97-99's ran 7.1 with the 95-96 and 2k+'s running 6.7. They may have added some weight to the car stock(like heavy *** 18's or something, body kit, etc..) before the turbo so thats why it may be slow.

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Old 10-18-2000 | 03:33 PM
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But....

Using that same reasoning, why don't the SC 4th gen's have problems? Specifically, Loren has been using the stock cluth for awhile now.
Old 10-18-2000 | 04:16 PM
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6.6 0-60 and a 1320 at 14.7 at 6-10psi? I dont know about any of you guys there but it sounds like well how should i say it but it sucks. I'm sure there is room for improvment but with time slips like that? Many of us will laugh. I'd be happier with the Stillen S/C and gettin to 0-60 in 5.9 secs. Is this going to be in production? Just my 2 cents.
Old 10-18-2000 | 04:36 PM
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Thats IMPOSSIBLE!!

Theres no way that a turbo Maxima running 10psi could run only 97mph....
Mine stock ran 14.9 @ 94 mph...
Thats impossible to only pick up 2/10ths and 3mph with an extra HUNDRED HORSEPOWER.

Either you read it wrong...
or they were shifting @ 3,000rpms....

I'll have to take a trip to Barnes & Nobles tonight.
Old 10-19-2000 | 01:23 AM
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THAT turbo max is weak...

Originally posted by Remington
running 14.7@97? That's weak.
but Matthel's car (Turbo95Max) kicks some serious a$$. =)
Old 10-19-2000 | 01:25 AM
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My theory

I would guess that since the times quoted for both the stock and modded cars seem high that means SCC's test driver sucks...not the cars.
Old 10-19-2000 | 06:22 AM
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Re: My theory

Originally posted by mzmtg
I would guess that since the times quoted for both the stock and modded cars seem high that means SCC's test driver sucks...not the cars.

Yeah something is a miss. don't know what went wrong.
Old 10-19-2000 | 11:31 AM
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I also found out...

They had to launch in 2nd gear because the stock clutch wouldn't hold in 1st gear. Given the proper clutch that car could run low 14's all day. Also looking at the dyno it appears the T3/T4 wimps out way to early. For example it peaks power at 5000rpm then at 6500rpm the power is less than the stock 2k max! To be blunt it looks more like a VG power curve rather than a VQ. Of course this car has way more lowend power but with this turbo it appears to have the lost the high rpm power it had NA. IMHO the supercharger is a better buy. You won't get as much lowend torque but the midrange and toppend power make up more than enough. FYI a T3/T4 hybrid turbo should be good for 350hp too.
Old 10-19-2000 | 11:34 AM
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Re: I also found out...

Nismo. I wonder is they are using the stock cat + catback. That would cause a restriction. Also if the pre-cats are sitll in place, that also might be a restriction. If you only have a straw to push the exhaust though, you can only get so much though, no matter the hp.

Originally posted by Nismo87SE
They had to launch in 2nd gear because the stock clutch wouldn't hold in 1st gear. Given the proper clutch that car could run low 14's all day. Also looking at the dyno it appears the T3/T4 wimps out way to early. For example it peaks power at 5000rpm then at 6500rpm the power is less than the stock 2k max! To be blunt it looks more like a VG power curve rather than a VQ. Of course this car has way more lowend power but with this turbo it appears to have the lost the high rpm power it had NA. IMHO the supercharger is a better buy. You won't get as much lowend torque but the midrange and toppend power make up more than enough. FYI a T3/T4 hybrid turbo should be good for 350hp too.
Old 10-19-2000 | 11:49 AM
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Just some food for thought...

I read an article not too long ago about a Mitsu GSX with upgraded turbos, intercooler... the whole nine yards. This thing should have been running mid 12's with all the stuff on it, but it wasn't, and nobody could figue out why. Long story short, it turned out that the clutch was indeed slipping. When they swapped it out, bang, mid 12's. I guess my point is, if they already know they have a bad clutch, that would probably explain the crappy times. Seems kinda stupid to let a major magazine do an article on your car when you know it's not up to snuff!
Old 10-19-2000 | 12:04 PM
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The car features a custom JWT intake, downpipe, Remus midpipe and Remus muffler. So the entire exhaust was custom. Also this car was revered to a 95 maxima ECU/wire harness so they could reprogram the ECU. But it appears that the T3/T4 turbo doesn't have enough flow abilties to keep the power from falling the toppend. The bad thing is this car looks just like my VG after 5000. Maybe there are some bugs that need to be worked out but IMHO unless they resolve the 5000rpm+ torque loss the supercharger is the way to go.
Old 10-19-2000 | 01:36 PM
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Boo Hoo Whaaaaa Whaaaa

JWT is trying to show of their car. But its got a bad clutch.... PLEASE

Geezus, You can build this wicked turbo but cant change a freakin clutch, come on!!! The are proving how much they suck, or blow, what ever works yor you.

Its kinda embarrassing for us Maxima owners!!!
Old 10-19-2000 | 02:00 PM
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clutch

It seems if they were going to spend the money to put a turbo on a car that they knew would be featured in a national magazine, that they would insall a higher perfomance clutch also. I mean, it just makes their turbo, and maxiams in general look bad when they add 100 horsepower and the 1/4 mile time does not show great improvement. How much would a better clutch install have cost them?
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