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Old Jul 14, 2001 | 11:10 PM
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Hey what's happening everyone? I was wondering if you could increase the amount of torque your car has. I know you probably can so if you can could you tell me how to increase the torque on your car? Thanks
Old Jul 15, 2001 | 10:21 AM
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Yes, any bolt on peice ie. sc exhaust intake all add torque it's just that most people concentrate on hp but they do add torque.
Old Jul 16, 2001 | 12:41 AM
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i heard that eace maxima.org sticker you add gives you a few lb/ft of torque.
Old Jul 16, 2001 | 09:07 AM
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put your stock intake back on your car... while you get a HP increase from yout pop charger, it will rob your torque.
Old Jul 16, 2001 | 09:43 AM
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With a B-pipe, Y-pipe, RT cat, and cone intake, my car made 175fwhp and 194fwtq or approximately 208hp and 228ft/lbs of torque at the flywheel. Technically I've added 18hp and 23ft/lbs of torque overstock. Unlike most import guys, I'm more concerned about torque than hp. Torque is much more useable and gets you off the line quicker and allows you to recover from a bog much easier.

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Old Jul 16, 2001 | 07:30 PM
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Sure.......

Originally posted by theblue
put your stock intake back on your car... while you get a HP increase from yout pop charger, it will rob your torque.
Yeah, your an idiot. Why in the hell do you think i bought a new intake? An intake would only increase torque not rob it you moron. Let me give you a hint.....don't comment to a post and make your self sound like a complete idiot. People like you **** the **** out of me.
Old Jul 16, 2001 | 08:22 PM
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Re: Sure.......

Originally posted by 90maximaSE


Yeah, your an idiot. Why in the hell do you think i bought a new intake? An intake would only increase torque not rob it you moron. Let me give you a hint.....don't comment to a post and make your self sound like a complete idiot. People like you **** the **** out of me.
is is just me or does he sound mad

i believe he's right. at low rpm, the pop charger is robing you of power, but at high rpm, you will see an increase.
Old Jul 16, 2001 | 08:52 PM
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Re: Sure.......

Originally posted by 90maximaSE


Yeah, your an idiot. Why in the hell do you think i bought a new intake? An intake would only increase torque not rob it you moron. Let me give you a hint.....don't comment to a post and make your self sound like a complete idiot. People like you **** the **** out of me.
Would DaveB or any other intellegent member care to back me up and correct this poor misinformed soul?

It's ok to say you don't agree, but there is no need to jump to insulting me, i have a lot of track time under my belt and I know that my car has lots torque but gained HP on the top.

If you had spend a little more time reading you would see how many people have said just what I'm saying. But lets make a poll out of this and find out who the real fool is.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....threadid=52947
Old Jul 16, 2001 | 09:00 PM
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Re: Re: Sure.......

Originally posted by theblue
Would DaveB or any other intellegent member care to back me up and correct this poor misinformed soul?

It's ok to say you don't agree, but there is no need to jump to insulting me, i have a lot of track time under my belt and I know that my car has lots torque but gained HP on the top.

If you had spend a little more time reading you would see how many people have said just what I'm saying. But lets make a poll out of this and find out who the real fool is.
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....threadid=52947
hey blue don't worry about it. This guy has a habit of making idiotic comments and making a fool of himself.

Anyhoo...i agree with you guys. When an intake is the only mod (esp when i had just my CAI) lowend suffered especially the torque as it seemed. The HP was there but off the line the car was horrible. When i added my Y and catback my 60fts have improved as a whole (we won't discuss the topend of the VG) but back to the point...intake has it's plus but loss in torque is the negative side...
Old Jul 16, 2001 | 09:19 PM
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Hey, someones an A55HOLE! As a matter if fact, theblue is telling the truth with this comment. Don't you dare ever come on here, ask a question, then get insulted by the answer.
I posted this same thing about 3 weeks ago when I changed back to stock from the PopCharger, and strangely, almost everybody agreed with me.
Old Jul 16, 2001 | 09:21 PM
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Re: Re: Sure.......

Originally posted by matt92gxe


is is just me or does he sound mad

i believe he's right. at low rpm, the pop charger is robing you of power, but at high rpm, you will see an increase.
I think he sounds mad too, buy a city transit bus if want A LOT OF torque
Old Jul 16, 2001 | 10:49 PM
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Re: Sure.......

Originally posted by 90maximaSE


Yeah, your an idiot. Why in the hell do you think i bought a new intake? An intake would only increase torque not rob it you moron. Let me give you a hint.....don't comment to a post and make your self sound like a complete idiot. People like you **** the **** out of me.
Changing the exhaust system and/or the intake can affect your torque, both positively and negatively. Some will cause a decrease in low-end torque and give you more on the upper-end; this is probably what the poster is referring to. Some people prefer that lower-end to the higher-end torque and thus will caution others that want to make mods in the hope of gaining torque.

By the way, I believe you mean "you are" or "you're", not "your".
Old Jul 16, 2001 | 11:33 PM
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Re: Sure.......

Somebody read this statement by the super intelligent 90maximaSE and tell me what is wrong with this picture. "Yeah, YOUR an idiot." Smart guy! It is like hearing an idiot call someone else an idiot.
Old Jul 16, 2001 | 11:45 PM
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Horsepower is Caluclated from TORQUE

Torque = (Horsepower * 5252) / RPM
Horspower = (Torque * RPM) / 5252

For any mod where you increase Horsepower, you're also increasing torque.

Torque is the force of the engine and it's what you feel. Horsepower isn't a real physical force, but rather just a measure of how quickly an engine can do work, or it's "power".

A big diesel engine in an 18-wheeler only has around 300-400HP, but well over 1000 lb-ft of torque. That sucker can put out some serious force, but because of its low horsepower it just can't get work done very quickly - but it sure as hell can do a lot of it at once.

A Honda S2000 engine only has 150-ish lb-ft of torque, but it makes 240HP. So it can't apply a very large force, but because it can make its peak torque at around 7600rpm it can apply a smaller force VERY quickly and therefore it makes more horsepower by doing so.

And the reason it's fast is because the engien can spin so fast that that allows it to run extra short gears for greater torque multiplication than any engine out there. So suddenly having only 153 lb-ft of torque feels like a lot more because of shorter gears and greater torque multiplication and a high-revving engine.

So don't confuse horsepower and torque because they're both directly related to each other.
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 08:16 AM
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dude what are you like 16 years old? don't talk to Aaron like that
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 08:54 AM
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Re: Horsepower is Caluclated from TORQUE

Originally posted by SteVTEC
Torque = (Horsepower * 5252) / RPM
Horspower = (Torque * RPM) / 5252

For any mod where you increase Horsepower, you're also increasing torque.

Torque is the force of the engine and it's what you feel. Horsepower isn't a real physical force, but rather just a measure of how quickly an engine can do work, or it's "power".

A big diesel engine in an 18-wheeler only has around 300-400HP, but well over 1000 lb-ft of torque. That sucker can put out some serious force, but because of its low horsepower it just can't get work done very quickly - but it sure as hell can do a lot of it at once.

A Honda S2000 engine only has 150-ish lb-ft of torque, but it makes 240HP. So it can't apply a very large force, but because it can make its peak torque at around 7600rpm it can apply a smaller force VERY quickly and therefore it makes more horsepower by doing so.

And the reason it's fast is because the engien can spin so fast that that allows it to run extra short gears for greater torque multiplication than any engine out there. So suddenly having only 153 lb-ft of torque feels like a lot more because of shorter gears and greater torque multiplication and a high-revving engine.

So don't confuse horsepower and torque because they're both directly related to each other.
You are correct obviously. I was talking in ver simple terms. the pop charger will change the shape of the torque curve on a maxima so that there is less torque at lower RPMs and a lot more at higher rpms. This is why people notice a loss of power off the line, but gain it back with interest on the top end.
Old Jul 17, 2001 | 09:01 AM
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On the dyno with my car, I made 175fwhp and 194fwtq with a POP style intake. With the modified stock airbox, my car made 174fwhp and 193fwtq which occured at the same rpm as the POP style intake. After 4500rpms, the POP style intake does make slightly more power (3-4fwhp and tq), but at 5800rpms, it all evens out. After 5800rpms, the POP intake doesn't loose power as quickly as the stock airbox. Power production from 2500-4500rpms is the same between the two intakes......READ: no loss in torque. HOWEVER, on a hot day or with a heat soaked POP intake, there will be more of a loss of power. At the track, with a cool down, the POP should slightly out perform the modified airbox. I've never noticed a noticable lack of power in the low rpms with my POP style intake, but we must realize that I've got a 5 speed which has a lot more torque multiplication than a automatic. It is entirely possible that the automatic with a POP intake will make little difference in performance. Why? Because the automatic spends a lot more time below 2500rpms than the 5 speed. This is where the possible lack of power could be felt. If you've got an automatic, I'd think the best intake would be either a modified airbox (OSCAI) or the CAI. The extra length of intake piping will increase the lower end power.

I use to have a modified airbox and I ran 14.7s@94mph. I've gone back to the POP intake because I'm doing some experimenting. I've made a heat shield, pulled the hoodliner, removed all resonators, and added more intake piping all in an effort to keep the intake as cool and supplied as possible. It seems to be working. With this setup, I feel that I may be getting the best of both worlds. We shall see once the weather gets cooler and I go back to the track.


Dave
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