Fast Sedans
The question to ask that would have fewer answers is...
Faster sedans for <30k (new off the lot).
This at least narrows down the field.
And I still say that the Grand Prix GTP and 5-spd Max are virtually identical in performance. Now if Pontiac made a 5-spd GTP, then the Max would be in trouble.
Faster sedans for <30k (new off the lot).
This at least narrows down the field.
And I still say that the Grand Prix GTP and 5-spd Max are virtually identical in performance. Now if Pontiac made a 5-spd GTP, then the Max would be in trouble.
Originally posted by GTNUKE
The question to ask that would have fewer answers is...
Faster sedans for <30k (new off the lot).
This at least narrows down the field.
And I still say that the Grand Prix GTP and 5-spd Max are virtually identical in performance. Now if Pontiac made a 5-spd GTP, then the Max would be in trouble.
The question to ask that would have fewer answers is...
Faster sedans for <30k (new off the lot).
This at least narrows down the field.
And I still say that the Grand Prix GTP and 5-spd Max are virtually identical in performance. Now if Pontiac made a 5-spd GTP, then the Max would be in trouble.
But, bad reliability and terrible interiors... Plus no fun in the twisties...
Originally posted by Ironlord
Umm, wrong. The only time the 5spd Max can ahng with or move on a GTP is past 100. They put down 240hp and 280tq. Run the 1/4 in mid to low 14's. I know people who've run 14.2 stock. Not often, but a few. I've never seen a GTP in good condition at sealevel run over 15. And with one simple mod, a UDP, they add another 30 hp and can say goodbye to just about any maxima.
But, bad reliability and terrible interiors... Plus no fun in the twisties...
Umm, wrong. The only time the 5spd Max can ahng with or move on a GTP is past 100. They put down 240hp and 280tq. Run the 1/4 in mid to low 14's. I know people who've run 14.2 stock. Not often, but a few. I've never seen a GTP in good condition at sealevel run over 15. And with one simple mod, a UDP, they add another 30 hp and can say goodbye to just about any maxima.
But, bad reliability and terrible interiors... Plus no fun in the twisties...
Last year when the GP "Gathering" was in KC, I went to the track and ran a few of them. Only 3 GTPs out of 50+ that were running that night were in the 13s and those 3 GTPs had either NOS, super small pullies (3.0"), and a built motor. The rest of the modified GTPs were in the mid to lower 14s and the stock GTPs were running mid to lower 15s. I was running 14.9s that night with trap speeds that rivaled most of the "pullied" GTPs. As usual, my Maxima's problem was in the 60'. I was getting 2.4s where as they were getting 2.2s.
I don't fear stock GTPs one bit and I'm 50/50 against the pullied GTPs.
Dave
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Your cool since you speak from hands on experience rather than: assume, live by magazines, what you read on the net etc...
I'm finding lately that most Maxima owners who doubt the Max capabilities do not have a 5spd let alone a y-pipe/intake and/or other mods. Keep on representin'

I'm finding lately that most Maxima owners who doubt the Max capabilities do not have a 5spd let alone a y-pipe/intake and/or other mods. Keep on representin'

Originally posted by Dave B
There is only one GTP/GS that ever ran a 14.2 (closer to a 14.3), but the driver never posted a timeslip. Even the GP forum doubts this guys' claim. There have been a few GTPs that have hit 14.6s stock, however after looking at the slips, the conditions were incredible (ultra high baro pressures, ultra low temp and humidity, sticky track). It should be noted that the quickest Maximas, GTPs, F-Bodies, Mustangs, etc mostly reside in the Northeast.
Last year when the GP "Gathering" was in KC, I went to the track and ran a few of them. Only 3 GTPs out of 50+ that were running that night were in the 13s and those 3 GTPs had either NOS, super small pullies (3.0"), and a built motor. The rest of the modified GTPs were in the mid to lower 14s and the stock GTPs were running mid to lower 15s. I was running 14.9s that night with trap speeds that rivaled most of the "pullied" GTPs. As usual, my Maxima's problem was in the 60'. I was getting 2.4s where as they were getting 2.2s.
I don't fear stock GTPs one bit and I'm 50/50 against the pullied GTPs.
Dave
There is only one GTP/GS that ever ran a 14.2 (closer to a 14.3), but the driver never posted a timeslip. Even the GP forum doubts this guys' claim. There have been a few GTPs that have hit 14.6s stock, however after looking at the slips, the conditions were incredible (ultra high baro pressures, ultra low temp and humidity, sticky track). It should be noted that the quickest Maximas, GTPs, F-Bodies, Mustangs, etc mostly reside in the Northeast.
Last year when the GP "Gathering" was in KC, I went to the track and ran a few of them. Only 3 GTPs out of 50+ that were running that night were in the 13s and those 3 GTPs had either NOS, super small pullies (3.0"), and a built motor. The rest of the modified GTPs were in the mid to lower 14s and the stock GTPs were running mid to lower 15s. I was running 14.9s that night with trap speeds that rivaled most of the "pullied" GTPs. As usual, my Maxima's problem was in the 60'. I was getting 2.4s where as they were getting 2.2s.
I don't fear stock GTPs one bit and I'm 50/50 against the pullied GTPs.
Dave
Originally posted by Dave B
There is only one GTP/GS that ever ran a 14.2 (closer to a 14.3), but the driver never posted a timeslip. Even the GP forum doubts this guys' claim. There have been a few GTPs that have hit 14.6s stock, however after looking at the slips, the conditions were incredible (ultra high baro pressures, ultra low temp and humidity, sticky track). It should be noted that the quickest Maximas, GTPs, F-Bodies, Mustangs, etc mostly reside in the Northeast.
Last year when the GP "Gathering" was in KC, I went to the track and ran a few of them. Only 3 GTPs out of 50+ that were running that night were in the 13s and those 3 GTPs had either NOS, super small pullies (3.0"), and a built motor. The rest of the modified GTPs were in the mid to lower 14s and the stock GTPs were running mid to lower 15s. I was running 14.9s that night with trap speeds that rivaled most of the "pullied" GTPs. As usual, my Maxima's problem was in the 60'. I was getting 2.4s where as they were getting 2.2s.
I don't fear stock GTPs one bit and I'm 50/50 against the pullied GTPs.
Dave
There is only one GTP/GS that ever ran a 14.2 (closer to a 14.3), but the driver never posted a timeslip. Even the GP forum doubts this guys' claim. There have been a few GTPs that have hit 14.6s stock, however after looking at the slips, the conditions were incredible (ultra high baro pressures, ultra low temp and humidity, sticky track). It should be noted that the quickest Maximas, GTPs, F-Bodies, Mustangs, etc mostly reside in the Northeast.
Last year when the GP "Gathering" was in KC, I went to the track and ran a few of them. Only 3 GTPs out of 50+ that were running that night were in the 13s and those 3 GTPs had either NOS, super small pullies (3.0"), and a built motor. The rest of the modified GTPs were in the mid to lower 14s and the stock GTPs were running mid to lower 15s. I was running 14.9s that night with trap speeds that rivaled most of the "pullied" GTPs. As usual, my Maxima's problem was in the 60'. I was getting 2.4s where as they were getting 2.2s.
I don't fear stock GTPs one bit and I'm 50/50 against the pullied GTPs.
Dave
BTW, I believe there are 3-4 guys on clubgp in the 11-12 sec range and ton in the 13 now, the GTP's are building a lot of aftermarket support and have a ton more options nows than even a year ago.
And I'm not trying to start a war or anything, and I have all respect for ya, I'm just saying that those GTP's are fast.
Originally posted by Ironlord
And we often had some maxima owners on that board that would talk about racing GTP's. The 5spd max would be behind off launch and would cathc up over 100 and start to walk them
And we often had some maxima owners on that board that would talk about racing GTP's. The 5spd max would be behind off launch and would cathc up over 100 and start to walk them
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