because they have alotta high end and the vtec kicks in at near redline and really lets the engine breathe at high speeds and rpm's. but off the line, the preludes aren't much to contend with if you have a 5-spd. a automatic will be equal or maybe slower, depending on the launch. trust me, all my prelude buddies got some mad mods, stick and auto. and i haven't lost yet with my auto, so until i do i won't be convinced.

All I have to say is, the maxima *stock* can kick *** on 99% of modded civics, any day.

How did the new headers dyno?

Do a search to find the in depth details and charts, I posted it like 2 weeks ago. If the search does not work.. I got 6.4 Peak FWHP & 2.1 Peak TQ. Around 5000 RPM my car picked up about 10HP and 10 TQ. Not that great but I did have 2 exaust leaks.

I couldnt agree more. Oh wait.. i am there whenever you are.

Its always hard for people to believe your kill stories. Just be like Thomas and get it all on tape. BTW, good kills.

So if i was to say i killed a modded Lude by 3-4 car lengths like Ethan mentioned. Would you guys believe me?