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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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DAMN-IT NISSAN!!!

I have recently been looking into trading in the Max for a Titan, this was until I did some research on the Titan and found out they have Major rear Diff. problems which, are u ready for this, Nissan denies (what a surprise). What is wrong with Nissan, they build great engines and trans but mess up other stuff, which is ok except they deny any knowlege of bad designs and try to stick us w/the bill (i.e. 00 ignition coils, wheel bearings, rotors/pads, 02/03 engine blow-by, etc...).......Are they trying to drive away customers!!!!!!

P.S. Since my Titan buble was burst, can anyone suggest a good reliable pick-up??
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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i'd hate to say it but the ford f150 is good solid truck,ya just gotta watch what rear end you get i.e. gas mileage, towing.or a good silverado will work just as good
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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I hate to say it but the new toyota tundra is a good deal but I believe there quit expensive. The dodge hemi is good truck there good when it comes to there ram pick-up.
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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Look in jdpower and consumer reports. If you want a reliable truck, get a Toyota. I did and after 2 yrs have had no problems at all.

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 05:46 PM
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Look in jdpower and consumer reports. If you want a reliable truck, get a Toyota. I did and after 2 yrs have had no problems at all.

Good Luck,
Thanks for the feedback, how many miles do u have on the truck??
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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i have a friend that works at a nissan dealership, he was saying the rear diffs screw up because they put in the wrong gear oil, so it messed the internals up big time, but i know that the nissan dealership in my area fix the titan problem for free
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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I hate to say it but the new toyota tundra is a good deal but I believe there quit expensive. The dodge hemi is good truck there good when it comes to there ram pick-up.


Toyota's have a very strong motor, but have you seen the bed torqueing? The bed bounces and twists so much it is damaging the rear of the cab.

Look on YouTube....
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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I had an 06 Tundra Double Cab 4x4 (TRD model) and I was very happy with it. I only sold because I didn't use it enough to jusify the cost. I ended up buying a 94 GMC Diesel 4x4 just to haul junk around with. It's already scratched up, so I don't feel bad taking it into the woods or throwing firewood into the back.

The Tundra drove very well in the snow, mud, handled well and was great overall. I pulled my 17 foot trailer, loaded it full of camping stuff and climbed into the mountains with ease. The 4.7L has enough power for what most people need. If you need more, get a diesel. If you are into serious offroading, you don't need a truck. Get a Jeep or something old to beat on.

I like the styling better than the new Tundra. You could probably get a decent deal on one because now they have the newer body style.

LIke I said, if you really need to haul something (like a large trailer) I would recommend a Dodge diesel with a manual transmission or a Chevy/GMC Duramax with the Allison transmission. I live in a rural area and I know a lot of people that need these trucks for serious hauling and those are the two preferred models.
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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07 tundra FTW... this one is my dad's truck after i washed it. 5.7L 2x4 SR5 crewmax..most ppl dont even need a crewmax but i love how the back seats recline..and the legroom back there is ridiculousely huge...but i've driven the truck on several ocassions.. and i must say i am truly impressed. The toyota tundra is overbuilt.. very high quality materials used, and awesome overall fit and finish.. doors close with a nicely weighted feeling and everything seems solid. not to mention the 381hp engine with 400lbft. is very satisfying and it can still squeeze out 20mpg highway without towing anything of course... my dad's truck is pretty optioned up..leather, premium jbl audio, back-up camera, enkeis, 5.7v8, power heated seats, xm,bed track system, spray bedliner, extender..and other stuff i cant think of. so it stickered at 36grand...but u can easily get a double cab or basic crewmax (with 4.7) for alot less. i highly recommend this truck

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Old Oct 10, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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I have recently been looking into trading in the Max for a Titan, this was until I did some research on the Titan and found out they have Major rear Diff. problems which, are u ready for this, Nissan denies (what a surprise). What is wrong with Nissan, they build great engines and trans but mess up other stuff, which is ok except they deny any knowlege of bad designs and try to stick us w/the bill (i.e. 00 ignition coils, wheel bearings, rotors/pads, 02/03 engine blow-by, etc...).......Are they trying to drive away customers!!!!!!

P.S. Since my Titan buble was burst, can anyone suggest a good reliable pick-up??
The best trucks are the older ones that are already broken in. Most people don't want to use their shiny new truck for what a truck is intended for so they end up using it as a DD, sucking up gas. yes, the Tundra and other trucks are very thirsty, don't let anyone tell you they get 20MPG "on the HWY". The only way certain trucks will get 20 MPG is if they are driven across the flat plains with cruise on and a tail wind. (Well, the diesels do very good on gas however!)

I'd like to get a truck too, a full size ext cab like say a late 90's Dodge Ram or the 95 or 96+ Chevy (With Vortec 5.7, not pre Vortec). Something I can drive when necessary and don't feel bad about using it for whatever, HD runs, dump runs, camping, hauling, work etc.

Of course I'd keep the Maxima as my DD. My $0.02

BTW, O/T, what the heck does "FTW" and that stuff mean?
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:00 PM
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My dad has an '01 dodge dakota quad cab slt and it has 20mpg and a 4.7 v8 that freakin gets up and goes! Its had absolutely no engine problems what so ever. In fact the only issue it has ever had was the fan speed for the heat/ac has shorted out once so only high speed worked, but he took the dash off and did something (I forget) and it works fine now, he did in like 10 minutes.

The truck is solid though, lots of power, huge cabin (seats 6 people), and really good stock sound system. Graphite color looks really good, I actually plan on gettin my max painted very simular.

Only downside is his isn't 4fwd and doesn't have posi traction so it slips out in grass, which in my opinion is pointless for a truck, but he's always like 4x4 ride harder, take more maintenance, etc.

Regardless 2001 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab SLT is awesome.
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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BTW, O/T, what the heck does "FTW" and that stuff mean?
It's idiodic internet jargon that stands for "For The Win"
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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It's idiodic internet jargon that stands for "For The Win"
ah hah. So owning a new Tundra is "For The Win"?? OK, I get it now.
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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My dad has an '01 dodge dakota quad cab slt and it has 20mpg and a 4.7 v8 that freakin gets up and goes! Its had absolutely no engine problems what so ever. In fact the only issue it has ever had was the fan speed for the heat/ac has shorted out once so only high speed worked, but he took the dash off and did something (I forget) and it works fine now, he did in like 10 minutes.

The truck is solid though, lots of power, huge cabin (seats 6 people), and really good stock sound system. Graphite color looks really good, I actually plan on gettin my max painted very simular.

Only downside is his isn't 4fwd and doesn't have posi traction so it slips out in grass, which in my opinion is pointless for a truck, but he's always like 4x4 ride harder, take more maintenance, etc.

Regardless 2001 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab SLT is awesome.
That's kinda "mid size". The dakota is another truck I have considered. Driven a few 5.2 versions and came away real impressed! They are almost big enough, but I'd have to go Full Size "FTMFW!!!!!!!!"
Old Oct 10, 2007 | 08:38 PM
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well the next generation titan is on its way and will probably be availabe in the next 2 years so don't get to upset about it. They will fix it, they are building a diesel version of the titan as well. It seems to be strange that with gas prices the way they are, the big 5 are all in a big truck war over who has the best truck.
Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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The "Old Style" Tundra

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Thanks for the feedback, how many miles do u have on the truck??
Dear max929,

I have about 18,000 miles on the truck.
It is a 2006 Dbl Cab w/ the 4.7 liter V8.
This one was built in Indiana but I think most of the 07/08's are now being built in San Antonio.

I had always bought Nissan before, but based on the '02 Xterra I got for my daughter, I will probably be doing Toyota or Honda from now on.

We have really had good luck with my wife's 2000 Maxima but that was made in Japan. I kind of wonder if they decided quality isn’t as important as it used to be ?


Let me know if I can help in your decision
Old Oct 11, 2007 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by vqmaxman
I hate to say it but the new toyota tundra is a good deal but I believe there quit expensive. The dodge hemi is good truck there good when it comes to there ram pick-up.
a coworker of mine had one of those dodge hemis and had major problems and told them to take it back and got a gmc
Old Oct 11, 2007 | 10:44 PM
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if you want a good, reliable, long lasting truck; the only option is a dodge cummins.

1)diesel will outlive ANY gas (especially the cummins, it's not even officially considered broke in 'til 150k, plus the inline gives you better low end tq then the others v8's)
2)it cost the same as either the tundra or titan (plus then the dodge is at least a 3/4 ton)
3)power!!!! (stock, with 35" tires my dad's truck has yet to lose to any titan/tundra)

btw, my dad's is an '04 with 130k. with 35" (stock is 31") he gets 16city, 19highway. the best he's gotten is 22mpg, strictly highway, empty, and chip on mileage setting. the worst is about 8 mpg, but that was stage 5 on the chip and all out racing, 850 lb tq!!!
Old Oct 14, 2007 | 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BW_Max2K_SE
Dear max929,

I have about 18,000 miles on the truck.
It is a 2006 Dbl Cab w/ the 4.7 liter V8.
This one was built in Indiana but I think most of the 07/08's are now being built in San Antonio.

I had always bought Nissan before, but based on the '02 Xterra I got for my daughter, I will probably be doing Toyota or Honda from now on.

We have really had good luck with my wife's 2000 Maxima but that was made in Japan. I kind of wonder if they decided quality isn’t as important as it used to be ?


Let me know if I can help in your decision
U already have, I too have begun to wonder where Nissan's priorities lie? I think a Tundra is probably what I'm looking for, the cummins engines are w/out a doubt one of the best on the road but all I am looking to pull is a couple of jet skies and use the bed to throw my son/wife bikes into and head to the park, get lawn stuff and little odd jobs like that; nothing major. I really appreciate all the feedback guy

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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:18 PM
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I also wanted to mention that the Ford F-250-350's superduty diesels are a good bargain. There less likely to have major problems and there powerful beasts. I heard that the F-250 gasoline verision are having problem as of head gaskets and seal needed at 60k and they are starting to leak so as the tranny over heats.
Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:43 PM
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Yes, Tundras are made in San Antonio now. I traveled with an onsite parts supplier at that plant.

I would go for a GMC. My '94 Suburban with one of the last truck 350 V8 is solid and only replaced the wear out items over the years.

But owning a truck is expensive not only from the gas standpoint. The tires are expensive and brakes wear out much faster. It now cost over $100 to fill up. I've heard from others that the new versions only got slightly better gas mileage. My gets 12-13 MPG and a new Suburban gets 14-15.

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Old Oct 14, 2007 | 10:56 PM
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i think if your uses only consist of what you said then yes a diesel would more then likely be overkill. although i would say for what the cost of the tundra is (or any truck for that matter) you should really look at the chevrolet/gmc, and ford 1/2 tons. they are generally cheaper then nissans and toyotas. and also they have both been making full sized pickups for much longer then nissan or toyota. and really gas mileage and power is pretty close in all of them.
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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Get an F-150. I have a MY2000 with extended cab and 4x4. Mileage is about 13mpg city and 17mpg hwy. But it uses regular gas so it's not so painful at the pump.
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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This is a little outside the box, but it's something I've considered.

How about renting?I mean, only when you may need it.

Fuel won't matter, Payments aren't yours for extended times, insurance won't really matter, and maintenence isn't on your back. Then again, neither is longevity, or resale value?!
Old Oct 17, 2007 | 11:35 PM
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+1^^^^^

for sure i think most people that buy trucks could just rent whenever they actually needed a truck and saved themselves from alot of hassle.
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The differential issue was only on the 2004 models and some early 2005. I have a 2006 titan LE crew cab 4x2 and I love it! never had any problems ( I have 30K now) Before my titan i had a 2005 toyota tundra sr5 v8.... to be honest I'll never buy a tundra again. Also On the new tundras I heard they have some cooling issues. If you need more info about the titan just go to titantalk.com

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Originally Posted by max929
I have recently been looking into trading in the Max for a Titan, this was until I did some research on the Titan and found out they have Major rear Diff. problems which, are u ready for this, Nissan denies (what a surprise). What is wrong with Nissan, they build great engines and trans but mess up other stuff, which is ok except they deny any knowlege of bad designs and try to stick us w/the bill (i.e. 00 ignition coils, wheel bearings, rotors/pads, 02/03 engine blow-by, etc...).......Are they trying to drive away customers!!!!!!

P.S. Since my Titan buble was burst, can anyone suggest a good reliable pick-up??
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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Yes, Tundras are made in San Antonio now. I traveled with an onsite parts supplier at that plant.
Yup, they just opened that plant here not too long ago. I think the plant is for the majority tundras.
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 12:55 PM
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The Tundra looks sweet but if it's anything like the last bunch of new cars rolling out of Toyota get an extended warranty, my 4Runner is falling apart, my extended warranty which I thought was a waste of 800 dollars has covered my azz for around 5k in parts and labor.

The Titan was a brand new fullsize from Nissan, 04 and early 05 where the problem prone vehicles but they should all be good by now, the new ones seem to have overcome the issues, brakes are way larger and quality seems to be stepped up.

Buying a car is nothing but playing the odds, my old man says the only sure way to not lose money or have any problems is not buying a car, and I've rented a car for several months but that is almost the same as owning.

If I needed a pickup I'd search the classifieds for a moron who bought a Fullsize as a daily driver, their are plenty of butt munches that jumped in way to fast and then realized the entire overall cost way exceeds their price point:stfu:
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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I reccomend toyota's for me. They are quite reliable and good on gas.
Old Oct 18, 2007 | 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by seanwn
if you want a good, reliable, long lasting truck; the only option is a dodge cummins.

1)diesel will outlive ANY gas (especially the cummins, it's not even officially considered broke in 'til 150k, plus the inline gives you better low end tq then the others v8's)
2)it cost the same as either the tundra or titan (plus then the dodge is at least a 3/4 ton)
3)power!!!! (stock, with 35" tires my dad's truck has yet to lose to any titan/tundra)

btw, my dad's is an '04 with 130k. with 35" (stock is 31") he gets 16city, 19highway. the best he's gotten is 22mpg, strictly highway, empty, and chip on mileage setting. the worst is about 8 mpg, but that was stage 5 on the chip and all out racing, 850 lb tq!!!
I am going to have to say on the diesel thing, at least for longevity.

My GMC diesel has 248k and it runs great. I bought it from the original owner and all he did was put on a new lift pump at 200k. I had a front differential problem, but that's because it's a GM, nothing to do with the diesel. It also gets about 21 mpg on the freeway.

Diesels in general are pretty fantastic for longevity. My mom has a 95 Ford F250 Powerstroke with a Banks turbo set up. It has over 250k miles (everything original) and she pulls a huge gooseneck horse trailer that she hauls four horses with and it has a sleeping area in front, loaded with her and my sister's crap. It has had brake and front hub issues, but again, that has nothing to do with the engine or even the tranny.

I know at least a half dozen people with Dodge diesels between 150k and 200k that have had zero problems with them. Especially the manual trannies. I do know of several ATs that have conked out. My mom had a 94 Dodge before the Ford and it ate up two trannies under warranty.
Old Oct 19, 2007 | 04:58 PM
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Use to work for a guy who had an Excursion with the Diesel option and it had 250k still going strong, his brother had a Cummins and the truck wore out so he sold the engine and trans

On the Diesel boards there is the argument, would you rather be Strokin or Cummin
Old Oct 19, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cliff Clavin
I am going to have to say on the diesel thing, at least for longevity.

My GMC diesel has 248k and it runs great. I bought it from the original owner and all he did was put on a new lift pump at 200k. I had a front differential problem, but that's because it's a GM, nothing to do with the diesel. It also gets about 21 mpg on the freeway.

Especially the manual trannies. I do know of several ATs that have conked out. My mom had a 94 Dodge before the Ford and it ate up two trannies under warranty.
which year gmc do you have? sorry, but anyone who claims to get over 20 mpg in a truck, any truck be it a diesel or gasoline or import or domestic, i don't believe. i've never once seen somebody fill up AT the pump and actually calculate their mileage get anywhere near what they claim to. those goofy trip computers that try and tell you your mileage are way off, my dad's always says 22-23, but in reality he's getting 19. but not tryin to argue, i've just yet to see it. as far as the trannies, yes the old auto's on the 24-valves were ****. anything 2004.5 and newer will not have issues. all the diesel shops i know claim the new tranny to be as good as the allison, just minus the hyped up name.

If I needed a pickup I'd search the classifieds for a moron who bought a Fullsize as a daily driver, their are plenty of butt munches that jumped in way to fast and then realized the entire overall cost way exceeds their price point
that's a really good point. in utah you can easily save 7-10k on a truck that's only a year or two old because people really didn't understand the cost of ownership. one other thing i'll add is that if you're looking to modify or anything i'd definitely recommend diesels. an $800 chip will get you screamin power on a diesel, whereas any gas you're lookin into thousands before you get any real results. but it sounds like you're just wanting something for the weekend duty. in which case the tundra would probably fill your bill wonderfully.
Old Oct 19, 2007 | 05:36 PM
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I know about 4 ppl of people with titans, than have never had any problems at all ?

It could also be one person that had some issue and they posted it on every forum out there, and let me tell u bad news spreads fast......



Then again, after reading about all the 3.5 maximas and g35's that burn oil , i guess anything is possible ??
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Ive personally seen a few at work. Man would you believe those rear diffs weigh about 250-300lbs..i tried picking up one myself and i only got it maybe 2" off the ground..given it is well over twice my weight LOL..

Nissan has always had issues..more so then other companies it seems, worst off is they are so reluctant to replace stuff under warrenty.

But yeah i highly agree on the stuff about the diesels. Other then the awful smell, they are capable of better fuel economy, WAYYY more torque, and can pull insane amounts. If i buy a truck it will be diesel.
Old Oct 20, 2007 | 12:27 AM
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^^^ ha ha ha that i think is the number one complaint i ever hear about diesels, they smell. but then again i don't particularly like standing by the exhaust of a gasoline car either.

and also that's the truth with everything, you can sell a thousand of any product and the 999 people that like it don't tell anybody, but the 1 person with a bad experience tells a thousand people that they're crap.
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Old Oct 24, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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I don't know why everyone bashes the Titan when the Tundra is in the same position as Nissan, so far the Tundra has had a select few 5.7 with broken camshafts, caught before it became an actual problem but the Tundra is having transmission issues which Toyota says is the Torque converter and there are problems with the rear door falling off and not being strong enough.

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Old Nov 8, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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you know i give nissan props because they build amazing vehicles...however...the reason toyota is #1 in america is not because they have scion and lexus....its because they build quality cars...now dont get me wrong...ull never catch me driving a toyota unless of course its a supra or 86 hachiroku...but theve got something nissan doesnt...its obvious...but nissan is moving forward now...releasing the gtr in the us will definately boost sales annnnnnd has ne one seen the news on the S16!?!?!?!! check it out
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