Chebosto

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BrianV ran a 14.3 corrected quartermile this past weekend...
his setup: PR/SI hybrid intake, ypipe, greddy, rt cat, and..

modified 96 ECU with Gforce Engineering ECU upgrade (my old ecu i let brianv borrow)

his previous times were 14.6s..

well. brian did it! what a little traction can do wonders..



--cheston

Sprint

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wow.. a whole .3 seconds.. hold me back while i run out and go buy one

plus we don't know factors such as temp? its way colder than it was before

oh.. where is this all coming from?

check the sig

Chebosto

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forgot to mention:
BrianV has a 97...

Washington DC Maxima

I thought he stated corrected 1/4 time... .3 is allot, IMHO.

Francis96se

what exactly do you mean "corrected"???

Sprint

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not for $700

Chebosto

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who the hell said it was $700?

man. stop sniffin the white powder. no not anthrax.


$450ish

Sprint

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now add the ecu

Miguel97GLE

Actually you can pick up a used ECU for around $100 probably less at a U-Pull-It yard.

Miguel

Washington DC Maxima

Cat back and Y are ~$800 for ~ .3 or less at the track with worries of rust cracking and emissions. ECU for .3 still seem pretty resonable for $700.. I bought a JWT from a .org member for $400.. I doubt this ecu is $700 unless you don't want to have your current ECU reprogrammed(core exchange).

Sprint

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my y pipe took off .4 secs..

CoolMax

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My SC took off 1 second.

Washington DC Maxima

LOL!!!

Sprint

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no BS.. i ran 15.6 bone stock.. 15.1 with the CAI and 14.7 with Y pipe and CAI.. i have many witness for all runs.. i think Ant, Brett and Synki were at all of my runs..


the 15.6 and the 15.1 is debatable..

but the 15.1 to the 14.7 is the same 60ft ...

1MAX2NV

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I think .3 for $450ish is not bad for low maintenance mod. I would do it if I'm still NA.

Washington DC Maxima

Same day(temps and/or humidity) or corrected times?? Driving skills improvement?

theblue

I'm not trying to say that this is not possible... but I think that a corrected time of about a second... yes > he ran a 15.something and then corrected it is not proof enuf for me... I want to see him find a lower track then really run a 14.3

remember... a corrected time only compares to what may be possible somewhere else... BrianV has never run better than 14.7 in reality.

Washington DC Maxima

Actually the best way would be to have both ecu's at the track. Thing is with a 5spd it's kinda hard to be consistant, IMHO..

theblue

either way... this is NOT track proven in my eyes....

mzmtg

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Ship me one down here in AL, I'll test it. The track here is at 170ft elevation (pretty much sea level). I have the super-consistent automagic.

Sprint

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same track.. not same day.. about same temp..

same driving skills thats why i said 60ft was the same

Sprint

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and another reason why i won't sanction this expense..

I spent $100 on a CAI and $350 on a y pipe.. thats $450

and i was able to cut off .9 secs off my 1/4 mile time.. so .3 ain't sheet..

i then spent $375 on a NOS kit.. but we won't work that one out

theblue

sprint - most people (even the bad drivers) can pull a 15.2 out of a stock 5spd. Are you trying to tell us that it's the mods that gave you all of that .9 - I don't think so

Sprint

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most people havn't pulled that.. i think you had a catback when you were running 15.2

the 97 5spd was tested as running 15.7

yes my mods do help

theblue

whatever!!! I still think that a correctly driven 97' maxima SE can break into the 14s - I ran 15.2 at etown which my second time ever racing - within a week I was running constant 14.8s and even a couple 14.7s! (this was all catback only) maybe its a GXE problem that you have

dmontzsta

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I was there, it was a humid *** day. And Brian's car was right on the money he did about 10+ runs and he did 15.3,15.4,15.5 which we were at Palmdale and cars are about 1 second off(ALL CARS) High as$ altitude and dry hot wheather. And Brian ran like a 14.5 or something like that at Pomona. He is pretty much all stock with some bolt ons. Trust me his car is fast as hell he took out several hybrid civics that were brought in on trailers and that usually run 13's and 14's all day and they couldnt even get into 14's at all.

Confused

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Quit bragging and get back there for some s/c ecu tuning damn it

Sprint

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i have only been drag racing 3 times

BriGuyMax

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I have a 5-speed...and last time at the track ALL OF MY RUNS (8) were within 1 tenth of each other....if that's not consistant...I don't know what is.

theblue

a 14.3 is a 14.3 ... you have not run a 14.3 until you run a 14.3 maybe his car is capable of running a 14.3; but it has not run a 14.3 yet.

and sprint: you can pick one of these options: (1) you're a poor driver and your mods make up for your lack of driving ability -or- (2) you're wrong about taking .9 off and most 5spd maximas can run a 15.2 stock -or- (3) it's a GXE thang

Sprint

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so what time did he actually run? what is cheston talking about?

theblue

he told me over IM that he ran a 15.3 or 15.4 I think... (sprint, see my previous post to this :-) )

Sprint

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so whats this 14.3 corrected he is talking about?

theblue

he corrected the 15.3 or 15.4 or whatever it was because of altitude and humidity and maybe even for the wind for all I know... anyway.. the socal math is that it takes about a second off. maybe the ECU can help that much... but we won't know that until he runs it uncorrected or he does a swap at the track to show the differnce between the two... i'm starting to feel like evil bill here or something... I hope that brianv can do it again. I'm sure if I correct my time I have a 14.4 :-)

Sprint

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hmm this again he did that with the ECU too.. and then someone had to read the fine print..

so here he comes again with another ECU push thanks for reading the fine print bluey..

well i run 14.2 corrected ... how about that

Dave B

Oh, we're posting corrected times now? My 14.73@94mph with a Poorman's CAI, B-pipe, and Y-pipe corrected out to be a 14.48@96mph and that's with a pathetic 2.25 60'. Recently I ran a 14.81@95mph which corrected out to be a 14.40@96.5mph and that was with a 2.29 60'. That's get real fellas, a 14.3 is a 14.3. I'm not big on posting corrected ets. I use corrected ets so I can compare my runs on different days and months AND THAT'S ALL.


Dave

buss95max

im a usual @ lacr, which is the track that brian ran @. the elevation there is 2640ft, and its in the middle of the desert in socal. he ran a 15.3@91mph up there...i didnt see the run, but i dont doubt he ran that time. i got my doubts on the ecu cuz ANOTHER maxima was there with the same ecu. and it was automagic, and it didnt do any better than its previous times @ the same track. i think its just brians car. IMO of course.

anyway my best corrected time @ lacr is 15.1@88mph.

Loren00Miata

I did a 15.210 at 92 100% stock on OEM tires with a 2.3 60'. Even more, I could have sone faster. That night there was around 700 people in Ennis and I had to wait 1 hr between runs and only got 3 runs in all night. I never even got my launch or shift points set. The first run was a 16.3 and the second was a 15.4.

BrianV

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I ran 14.7 without CAT and without ECU, however at sealevel at the damn Carlsbad Raceway I ran a 15.1 (Steve's S'c Max 5spd ran a 14.6, so I wasn't far off). That track is hideous. Anyways, lots changed since I got my 14.7 which was decently cold weather (~70F).

Palmdale didn't have much wind if any at all, temps were 70-80F all day.

Other things to consider was how I mentioned my gas pedal issue earlier.

Buss95Max runs a 16.1 (BEST) at Palmdale in his setup, and runs common 16.3's. MaxedUp ran consistent 16.3-16.5 and at Fontant one month prior (with MUCH heavier chrome rims) he ran a 16.4.

I ran a 15.306 @ 91.xx MPH (buss95max, a long time visitor to LACR says breaking 90 MPH at LACR is VERY impressive) which was enough for me to wipe the living **** out of a CL Type-S which every magazine has tested at 14.8 Seconds and it's an auto so there isn't much margin for error, not to mention this one isn't brand new so it's a little broken in.

Also, the ECU makes no where near the power on the 97 as it does on the 95-96 so there's another comparison to be made there.

Here's my honest opinion about the ECU. It has no affect on the car what-so-ever at 3200 RPM or below. Right at 3200-3300 RPM the engine opens up, but it doesn't have much of an affect after 5000-5500 RPM. When drag racing you spend most of your time at 5000+ RPM, so the gains in drag racing are minimal. The real gains are evident when you're cruising on the FWY at 90+ MPH and you goto pass a car in 5th gear. 5th gear pulls like 4th gear would on a non-chipped car. The amount of midrange power and torque is a night and day difference. In that specific range the ECU puts down more power than the YPipe did when I got it. However, the Ypipe greatly increases power up top as well, I feel the engine does not benefit from the ECU at above 5000 RPM or so.

I will post as soon as Cheston takes the ECU back, and I'm sure I will be very upset and I'll let you guys know how it feels to go back to normal programming.

Also, freeway gas mileage is improved significantly with the ECU (don't ask?)

theblue

before you resturn it, can you try and get to a different track and see what happens... bring along your stock computer and compare times... that's what we really want to know