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Old Nov 9, 2001 | 06:28 PM
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Re: not to sound so unrealistic

how big is the spearco intercooler? b/c ive seen the some and some of them are little.. used for 6-9 Psi.. i wont have that cute thing mounted behind my bumper..

i am also in florida, jacksonville.. maybe i'll take a ride down to your shop to see how this is coming..2.5 piping? isnt that small?
Old Nov 9, 2001 | 07:10 PM
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What's up man long time no see . As for the turbo kit the 2nd gens would be able to do it cheaper than anyone else. Not only do the manifolds fit but the ECUs are interchangeable (you will have to add 1 wire for the detonation sensor though). Other than that and everything is plug and play. From what I gather parts are around $500-1400 depending on what you get, manifolds + turbo, custom downpipe (any muffler shop can do), turbo oil/water lines (pull from the Z or order from nissan), custom turbo outlet to Throttle body tube (not hard to do), Z31T ECU/fuel injectors (so that you can push more boost).

Originally posted by max88q
but how much would a turbo kit for a 1988 nissan maxima be?? IM kinda interested my car has 155k miles on it and still in great condition/ I know in japan they had 4 cylinder turbo engines in the 88 maximas. So would this be possible? Plua the 1988 nissan 300zx turbos had the same engine as the 1988 maxima with a turbo on it. So how much would it cost and is it possible???
Old Nov 9, 2001 | 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by Nismo87SE
What's up man long time no see . As for the turbo kit the 2nd gens would be able to do it cheaper than anyone else. Not only do the manifolds fit but the ECUs are interchangeable (you will have to add 1 wire for the detonation sensor though). Other than that and everything is plug and play. From what I gather parts are around $500-1400 depending on what you get, manifolds + turbo, custom downpipe (any muffler shop can do), turbo oil/water lines (pull from the Z or order from nissan), custom turbo outlet to Throttle body tube (not hard to do), Z31T ECU/fuel injectors (so that you can push more boost).

can you try emailin me again?
Old Nov 9, 2001 | 09:36 PM
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k, I will electronicaly transfer you the money on the day that the kit becomes available. That's how serious a lot of us max drivers are. You just found a great market, and I hope your product can hold up to its expectations.
Old Nov 9, 2001 | 11:03 PM
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Ok...."third gen".....you talking VE or VG? Both? I'd be pretty interested if one was actually made for the VE.
Old Nov 9, 2001 | 11:11 PM
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I'd be interested .. 5th gen .. I can be your Canadian guinea pig .. but would be more inclined after results ... good luck!
Old Nov 10, 2001 | 12:27 AM
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I vote for a VE kit because most people who are serious about their 3rd gens either have a VE or want one, and the VG guys have a pretty easy route anyways with the Z31T.

BTW lude speed, you may be interested in purchasing my turbo system as a reference for development of a VE kit if you find the market is there.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=77515
Old Nov 10, 2001 | 12:32 AM
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I vote for a VE kit because most people who are serious about their 3rd gens either have a VE or want one, and the VG guys have a pretty easy route anyways with the Z31T.

BTW lude speed, you may be interested in purchasing my turbo system as a reference for development of a VE kit if you find the market is there.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=77515
Damm Straight thatt we VE 3rd gen owners are serious
Old Nov 10, 2001 | 04:33 AM
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Hey guys glad to see that alot of you are interested but we need more third 3gen's because it seems like the 4th and 5th gen guys have us beat.And to answer your question (james92se)when i e-mailed Tom i asked him if he would be interested in developing a kit the the 3rd gen ve motor but i also mentioned to him that the 4th and 5th gen guys would be interested as well.I'm also pleased to see that you guys are giving tom a warm welcome as well as your support, because he is willing to take on the task and may give us a new FI option beside stillen and nos.And to the vg guy's don't feel left out because he may be willing to make a kit for you guys if given time and enough people.
Well its time for me to go but before i leave i must say that the guy from probtalk who used his car for the kit development was very pleased with the kit and his results which struck the intrest of many v6 probers.

Thanks Tom for stopping by and i hope that we can make this happen.

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Old Nov 10, 2001 | 06:54 AM
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Re: Feedback needed: Who wants a bolt on turbokit???

Make one for the 3rd gen vg and id buy it in a second.
Old Nov 10, 2001 | 08:42 AM
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Count me in. Turbo 2k1 woohoo!!!

How much for you to bolt it on if I drive it to Florida?
Old Nov 10, 2001 | 09:30 AM
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All I have to say is.....

I'll believe it when I see it!
Old Nov 10, 2001 | 10:45 AM
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I want one! For both of my cars
Old Nov 10, 2001 | 10:48 AM
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?????????

Am i the only one that thinks $3000-3500 is little too much for a turbo kit?
Old Nov 10, 2001 | 11:01 AM
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Re: ?????????

Originally posted by Maximum5spd
Am i the only one that thinks $3000-3500 is little too much for a turbo kit?


$3000-$3500 is quite a bit. Considering Stillen already makes a SC at that price and that only a very small percentage of Max owners actually have the Stillen SC, you might find it hard to move those turbo units at $3000-$3500 a piece. Lude, I would focus on the 3rd/4th gens...I believe a couple (2?) 5th gen Max owners are working on other kits (not sure SC or Turbo) that they claim will be ready by next spring also. But I'm sure that if you make it for the 5th gens, we would all appreciate having one more option. I guess it all comes down to results...need to find yourself a test car.
Old Nov 10, 2001 | 12:37 PM
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Re: Re: ?????????

Originally posted by NJ_MAX2000




$3000-$3500 is quite a bit. Considering Stillen already makes a SC at that price and that only a very small percentage of Max owners actually have the Stillen SC, you might find it hard to move those turbo units at $3000-$3500 a piece. Lude, I would focus on the 3rd/4th gens...I believe a couple (2?) 5th gen Max owners are working on other kits (not sure SC or Turbo) that they claim will be ready by next spring also. But I'm sure that if you make it for the 5th gens, we would all appreciate having one more option. I guess it all comes down to results...need to find yourself a test car.
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Old Nov 10, 2001 | 01:00 PM
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Very interesting. I may have to keep my 2K1 now.....hmmmmm
Old Nov 12, 2001 | 03:32 PM
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Mo info

It looks like there is DEFINITELY enough interest from the members of this board to move forward with this when the time is right.

Some people say that this is going to be difficult, but this is what I do

I will definitely have to do some homework on Nissans. Things like VE & VG are new to me. I assume they are different engines from different models. But if they are both based on the same block and both are mounted in the car the same, then the biggest difference will be the exhaust manifolds. I am already dealing with that on the Probes. The 93-95 manifolds are different from the 96-97 manifolds. But all the piping that runs under the motor and to the exhaust is the same, so only the tips that meet the manifolds need to be changed. No big deal, really.

2.5" is not too small for the downpipe, you would want a 3" exhaust though.

Nobody has to be concerned with aftermarket rods and pistons unless they plan on running more than 10psi. Just about every motor ever produced will hold up to 10 psi boost when enough fuel is provided. on the other hand, even a built motor will die at 10 psi if the tuning is whacked. That is THE key. Japanese motors are built with VERY high quality parts. Factory rods are very strong compared to US small car motors. Nissan has an especially good reputation. I wouldn't worry too much about the bottom end of the motor unless you are going to run higher than 10 psi. And believe me, 8psi is gonna SCARE you. My test Probe ran 14.5 at 99MPH at 5psi on the stock exhaust on 18inch wheels. The MPH shows that it is making enough power to get into the 13's, but it takes more than power to get good ETs. Seeing the the Maxima motor is far more advanced than the Maxda (Probe) motor, we will see some BIG power improvements. I can't wait to feel the pull either

I actually think that $3500 is a steal for a complete turbo kit. Even mass produced kits like DRAG kits for Hondas are $3k-$4k. Most small market kits are usually more than $4k. Considering that the turbo is going to make ALOT more power than the SC, that is great bang-for-the-buck.


I'll be back here in a couple months to take some of you up on your offers to be the test car.
See ya then,
Tom.
Old Nov 12, 2001 | 10:47 PM
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$3.5k for a turbo kit is very good. espicially if it comes with all he claims it comes with. If you take the time to add up parts it would be close to 3k in parts alone.
A few things i would like to comment on.

I dont belive it would be a COMPLETE bolt on kit so therefore i dont belive it should be marketed that way. No one can make that claim until they get into the project. The oil lines will be bolt on bolt off? i doubt it. Most likely youll have to tap the return line. The feed line can be T-ed from the oil press sensor. All the piping will be bolt on bolt off? i doubt it also.Most likey there will be mods needed to be done. Downpipe planning to use front and rear banks? if so, i can almost guarantee modification needs to be done. Now add in an automatic and it gets worse...maybe even need to hack a fan. We had to. Youll see...trust me...hehehe
Why not make it juss oil cooled? making it water and oil cooled juss complicates things.
Id pass on that Deltagate,(junk) HKS and Greddy have nice units but very expensive. The best for the money i can think of is Tial. Tial is very good and alot of people are starting to use them now.

All in all, even 4k is a good deal. i know i sound very negative, but its not an easy project and if people are already complaining thinking 3k is expensive...its not worth it to make a kit for them.
Old Nov 12, 2001 | 11:49 PM
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i amoungst many people apreciate your efforts to even look into protoyping a turbo kit for the maxima, whether it will be a direct bolt on application or not. Matthel aka turbo95max is very knowledgable when it comes to turbo maxima's because he has been working on his for quite a while, and is onto his second motor.. fitment will definatley be an issue, but as you said, you do this type of stuff, you should be able to find a way around it.. i've already relocated my battery and have realized how much extra space it free's up.. so i'm thinking, relocate a few more peices here and there, then we'll be set to go.. perhaps the drivers side fan should be replaced with something of a lower profile, and the use of a wider pipe but somewhat flattened would help ease the routing the downpipe.. all in all, this is a great project to look into, and many maxima owners would prefer the turbo over the supercharger mainly because it's something "different." IMO the biggest issue would be the ECU.. making a COST effective modification to it.. anything can be done with the right amount of dollars, but to be able to tackle a project with a budget is a whole different ball game...
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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 05:34 AM
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Assuming the product is relatively reliable I would be EXTREMELY interested. However, what kind of internal changes would have to be made to the motor/ECU to handle a bolt on turbo??? Would gauges be included? Etc. etc. I would really love a kit though. The compression in the 4th generation maxima is 10:1 however...not exactly prime turbo material.
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 06:15 AM
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I'm very interested as well... assuming it is reliable. Pssssssssssshhhhtttt!
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 06:19 AM
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you know what i hate about this damn forum.. is that all the cheapass motha fukas always talking **** about this and that.. if you don't have any money STFU

you have no money to spend? STFU
you want to buy an SC instead? STFU
you think 3k is too much for a Turbo kit? STFU

let the big ballers and money spenders handle this.. if you think its too much? STFU and leave the thread alone.. its cheap f#cks like you guys that made David L stop doing lights.. and if you think i am going to let you Cheap f*cks come in here and mess up any chance of me getting a turbo kit because you won't STFU? you got another thing coming

its cheap f*cks like this that turn away retailers and let people form disinterest in doing stuff for maxima's.. STFU
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 06:25 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
you know what i hate about this damn forum.. is that all the cheapass motha fukas always talking **** about this and that.. if you don't have any money STFU

you have no money to spend? STFU
you want to buy an SC instead? STFU
you think 3k is too much for a Turbo kit? STFU

let the big ballers and money spenders handle this.. if you think its too much? STFU and leave the thread alone.. its cheap f#cks like you guys that made David L stop doing lights.. and if you think i am going to let you Cheap f*cks come in here and mess up any chance of me getting a turbo kit because you won't STFU? you got another thing coming

its cheap f*cks like this that turn away retailers and let people form disinterest in doing stuff for maxima's.. STFU
Right On!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 06:50 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
you know what i hate about this damn forum.. is that all the cheapass motha fukas always talking **** about this and that.. if you don't have any money STFU

you have no money to spend? STFU
you want to buy an SC instead? STFU
you think 3k is too much for a Turbo kit? STFU

let the big ballers and money spenders handle this.. if you think its too much? STFU and leave the thread alone.. its cheap f#cks like you guys that made David L stop doing lights.. and if you think i am going to let you Cheap f*cks come in here and mess up any chance of me getting a turbo kit because you won't STFU? you got another thing coming

its cheap f*cks like this that turn away retailers and let people form disinterest in doing stuff for maxima's.. STFU
do me a favor...list every person who is interested or want to buy right now...when the kit is out..i can bet only 2-3(at most) will actually put down money to buy.
putting in a turbo kit is not like slapping in lights or something. it's extremely involved. some of u have the know how...some don't. a handful of people here actually worked on a Stillen SC (that POS kit). the difficulities in install that...multiply that by 10 and that's maybe how difficult a turbo kit will be.
people are complaining about 3K..what happens when the kit is 4-5K? keep in mind 4cyl cars have one exhaust bank...V6 have two. if a kit for a 4cyl is already 3K+...asking for a kit for a V6 for 3K is nearly highway robbery.
i don't want Tom to be discouraged but some of you guys b1tch about paying extra koni struts or don't have money to lower the car...how are u going have enough money to buy a turbo kit?
Tom i wish u good luck.
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 06:54 AM
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thats why i say.. lets get all the money people in one corner.. i know of a few that have money and are ready to pay for it.. Matt Calder my buddy.. he isn't on any BS.. Ants97SE.. he isn't on any BS.. myself.. i am not on any BS.. their are a few legitimate people who are ready to put down some loot for a Turbo kit.. hey.. i called EIP for a kit and they wanted 10k for a 400 hp kit.. i thought about it.. and then i backed out.. but for $4k .. i am all for it.. now the kit after Tom is done its up to him wether he offers the kit for 4k or 5k .. i don't know.. thats the risk he is taking.. but as i said before.. i know a few no non-sense guys who are down to spend some money..

Originally posted by DanNY


do me a favor...list every person who is interested or want to buy right now...when the kit is out..i can bet only 2-3(at most) will actually put down money to buy.
putting in a turbo kit is not like slapping in lights or something. it's extremely involved. some of u have the know how...some don't. a handful of people here actually worked on a Stillen SC (that POS kit). the difficulities in install that...multiply that by 10 and that's maybe how difficult a turbo kit will be.
people are complaining about 3K..what happens when the kit is 4-5K? keep in mind 4cyl cars have one exhaust bank...V6 have two. if a kit for a 4cyl is already 3K+...asking for a kit for a V6 for 3K is nearly highway robbery.
i don't want Tom to be discouraged but some of you guys b1tch about paying extra koni struts or don't have money to lower the car...how are u going have enough money to buy a turbo kit?
Tom i wish u good luck.
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 06:58 AM
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Im all for it...I was going to get it done custom anyway so this would be a better alternative:P
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 07:04 AM
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do me a favor...list every person who is interested or want to buy right now...when the kit is out..i can bet only 2-3(at most) will actually put down money to buy.
putting in a turbo kit is not like slapping in lights or something. it's extremely involved. some of u have the know how...some don't. a handful of people here actually worked on a Stillen SC (that POS kit). the difficulities in install that...multiply that by 10 and that's maybe how difficult a turbo kit will be.
people are complaining about 3K..what happens when the kit is 4-5K? keep in mind 4cyl cars have one exhaust bank...V6 have two. if a kit for a 4cyl is already 3K+...asking for a kit for a V6 for 3K is nearly highway robbery.
i don't want Tom to be discouraged but some of you guys b1tch about paying extra koni struts or don't have money to lower the car...how are u going have enough money to buy a turbo kit?
Tom i wish u good luck.
While you may be right that not many people will buy one... There are those of us who will. I don't even have my 2k2 yet, but I'm already very interested mod'ing it like Hogan's "Dark Matter" (RIP). He said it would cost more than $8k for the engine work + shipping it to Japan and back. Is that expensive? Dang straight it is, but he's turning out about 550HP at the crank. You get what you pay for. I thought about getting another car after I get my Max and souping it up since it didn't think I could get a Max to run mid 11's. Hogan has proven that you can get a Max to run that fast. If you want power you gotta be willing to pay for it.

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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 07:10 AM
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Agreed. I would do whatever I could to get money for this if it were possible (e.g. take out yet another loan)! I may not spend money on frivolous mods, but I go ahead and buy the ones that I feel actually make a difference. If this kit were available, I would get it, hands down. And Sprint told me about the custom $10k setup; if this kit were availble for $4-5K, man, it's a deal!
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Originally posted by Stereodude


While you may be right that not many people will buy one... There are those of us who will. I don't even have my 2k2 yet, but I'm already very interested mod'ing it like Hogan's "Dark Matter" (RIP). He said it would cost more than $8k for the engine work + shipping it to Japan and back. Is that expensive? Dang straight it is, but he's turning out about 550HP at the crank. You get what you pay for. I thought about getting another car after I get my Max and souping it up since it didn't think I could get a Max to run mid 11's. Hogan has proven that you can get a Max to run that fast. If you want power you gotta be willing to pay for it.

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did i say no one will buy it? i see about 15-20 people saying they are interested/buying. now how many would actually buy it? sprint said...there are a few that are willing to pay. a lot are not. also keep in mind you'll also need to install the kit...a shop would cost u a pretty penny. don't forget the drivetrain. stock trannies won't last long w/ a turbo on it.
you are right...you get what you pay for...a few are complaining about a 3K turbo kit...do u think they are willing to pay for it?
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 07:32 AM
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I would definitely be interested in a Turbo kit, just letting you know.
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 07:45 AM
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Count me IN (4th gen)

Originally posted by NmexMAX
I'd be interested in a 4th gen kit. Do your homework Tom, and learn the Maxi, and you'll have a very good market, at leat here at the org..........I'd buy a turbo better than an sc anyday. Make it happen and you wont be dissapointed.
I agree with NmexMAX! If you can make this happen, you will pioneer almost a revolution among Maxima.org members.

You will get instant FREE publicity and marketing. The same is true if your kit starts causing problems. Stillen has a monopoly on the Maxima. But not too many people have them put on because it is notorious for causing problems. If you can do it right and charge a reasonable price without cutting any corners, you will sell those kits like hotcakes. For what its worth, I guarantee it!!

Look forward to your kit.
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 07:56 AM
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i am in

but if it goes over 4 k

i am out

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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 08:06 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
you know what i hate about this damn forum.. is that all the cheapass motha fukas always talking **** about this and that.. if you don't have any money STFU

you have no money to spend? STFU
you want to buy an SC instead? STFU
you think 3k is too much for a Turbo kit? STFU

let the big ballers and money spenders handle this.. if you think its too much? STFU and leave the thread alone.. its cheap f#cks like you guys that made David L stop doing lights.. and if you think i am going to let you Cheap f*cks come in here and mess up any chance of me getting a turbo kit because you won't STFU? you got another thing coming

its cheap f*cks like this that turn away retailers and let people form disinterest in doing stuff for maxima's.. STFU
Big ballers? LOL. Anyone want to put down money that Sprint is a white guy from the burbs still living off his parents er "peeps". What's your issue man. When the turbo comes out pony up your cash and then you can talk smack. As it is you're just another guy talking about what hes gonna do. That's funny stuff Sprint keep it coming.

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Old Nov 13, 2001 | 08:10 AM
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Thank you...

I deal with this all day long with the body kits/fenders/dash kits/wings I'm having made up. I wish people wouldn't email me wanting to pay half of what I will be selling them for. Not going to happen. If you have the money, great. If you don't, nothing wrong with that, but don't lowball me.

BTW, put me down for a kit if this ever gets made.

Originally posted by SprintMax
you know what i hate about this damn forum.. is that all the cheapass motha fukas always talking **** about this and that.. if you don't have any money STFU

you have no money to spend? STFU
you want to buy an SC instead? STFU
you think 3k is too much for a Turbo kit? STFU

let the big ballers and money spenders handle this.. if you think its too much? STFU and leave the thread alone.. its cheap f#cks like you guys that made David L stop doing lights.. and if you think i am going to let you Cheap f*cks come in here and mess up any chance of me getting a turbo kit because you won't STFU? you got another thing coming

its cheap f*cks like this that turn away retailers and let people form disinterest in doing stuff for maxima's.. STFU
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by Miguel97GLE


Big ballers? LOL. Anyone want to put down money that Sprint is a white guy from the burbs still living off his parents er "peeps". What's your issue man. When the turbo comes out pony up your cash and then you can talk smack. As it is you're just another guy talking about what hes gonna do. That's funny stuff Sprint keep it coming.

Miguel
Yes i am a that skinny little white kid with the green shirt.. i am a little tanned so please excuse me..

how much money did you want to put down that iw as some white guy living in the burbs off his parents? thats what i thought.. yeah.. another one of you.. but you know what.. i am done with you ignorant idiots..
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 09:41 AM
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If a kit is available than put me down for one. Sprint don't worry about the ingorance. People that talk **** wish they had the $$ to buy one, but can't
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 09:42 AM
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From: FV, NC
Originally posted by SprintMax
you know what i hate about this damn forum.. is that all the cheapass motha fukas always talking **** about this and that.. if you don't have any money STFU

you have no money to spend? STFU
you want to buy an SC instead? STFU
you think 3k is too much for a Turbo kit? STFU

let the big ballers and money spenders handle this.. if you think its too much? STFU and leave the thread alone.. its cheap f#cks like you guys that made David L stop doing lights.. and if you think i am going to let you Cheap f*cks come in here and mess up any chance of me getting a turbo kit because you won't STFU? you got another thing coming

its cheap f*cks like this that turn away retailers and let people form disinterest in doing stuff for maxima's.. STFU
Amen.

Sprint is a white guy liveing in the burbs???? HAHAHAHA!!!!!
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 09:55 AM
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i am not a mod or nor do i want to be

but lets not start bs in this thread

this is a good thread and i hate to see it get locked

to be honest you did come on strong sprint and i saw that flame comin from miguel

lets keep the subject on turbos and it doesnt matter if you have money or not

we all want to see this turbo project come to life
Old Nov 13, 2001 | 10:02 AM
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why do people insist on posting inappropriate things in important topics (or at all)? Regardless of what YOU think about someone, keep it to yourself. We are all interested in Turbo kits, right? Time to clean up the forums.



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