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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 05:39 AM
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End is near....for the VQ engine line

MB and Nissan are joining forces....in some part.
The VQ engine line in Nissan vehicles will be replaced by a MB units...

This sucks

What are your thoughts?
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 05:55 AM
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I think the Nissan 3.7 has a LOT more life in it before rumors like this take hold as real plans. And these rumors are focused on the Z, and the Infiniti, not the entire combined product line.

Regardless... all things change. Meh.
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 06:10 AM
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I don't know, a 6.3Z doesn't sound too terribly bad does it? I still swear by MBs finish and manufacturing. Through the late 90 till 2005 all of their cars sucked but recently they are freaking hot. My dad had a '94 S500 Coupe and a '87 S500 and driving them was a dream. Having a planted feel with 155mph on the local highways (the autobahn) is priceless.... enough day dreaming!

Plus aren't the currently used 4 cylinder engines Renault made already? I would much rather have a teutonic knight under the hood than some frenchie =)
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:02 AM
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Doesn't MB makes the worst rated luxury cars reliability wise?

This just sounds like trouble.
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:04 AM
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:48 AM
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meh, my next car wont be a nissan so i dont really care..
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:49 AM
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MB had some reliability issues in the past, right now they are regaining strength in that area...but did you ever try working on a benz? good luck with that....
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by HotshotVQ35
meh, my next car wont be a nissan so i dont really care..
I know you're eying the new Mustang GT 5.0, Hotshot. So what if Ford starting using a Yamaha engine in one of their iconic models?

No, wait... that worked out pretty well the last time.
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 08:05 AM
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If MB can help Nissan design some cars that are attractive as the new Challenger, or the Jeep Rallye versus something like the Juke, I'm in.

However, I'd much prefer Nissan's powerplant under the hood over MB's any day...

I doubt a partnership with MB will mean the end of the VQ. Rochester's right, I think there's a lot more potential in the engine to come.

But then again, it hasn't made Ward's Top Ten the last 2(?) years, and it's the same maneuver GM's pulling...falling back on one line of engine in hopes that it'll pull them through anything.
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 08:57 AM
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dont see a problem here...but im not so personally invested in an engine designator
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 09:21 AM
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This thread is a good little test for Manny. While it has merit for some discussion, it really has nothing to do with the 5th gen forum.

So let's see what happens.

Old Aug 7, 2010 | 09:40 AM
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yeah i thought the same thing...better place for this...general...
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 11:15 AM
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Thats why I'm keeping my I30 forever! Soon to be a classic when the VQ is no longer in production. Lets face it....Nissan got the most life it could out of the VQ since the first one rolled off the assembly line in 1995!
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 01:03 PM
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probably about time for this to happen. maybe they will finally get some direct injection going. also wouldnt mind MB throwing a little of their F1 engine experience this way
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Gemner
probably about time for this to happen. maybe they will finally get some direct injection going. also wouldnt mind MB throwing a little of their F1 engine experience this way
They're using DI on the VK50VE.

The only thing wrong with the engines are poor tuning (although a lot of that is b/c of stupid emissions laws).
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 04:08 PM
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I'm a lot more sad at the thought of not being able to buy a car with 3 pedals anymore.

But yeah, I will probably buy another Nissan, but nothing new. Not only are new cars a waste of $, they are not as cool as Nissans of old.

I still need to own a Z32 at some point, or possibly even a Z33.
and I still need to own something with an SR20 in it.
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Not a bad move imo. The 3.5L was rough around the edges and the 3.7L is every worse.
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Originally Posted by PulsarGTS
Not a bad move imo. The 3.5L was rough around the edges and the 3.7L is every worse.
Why does everyone (I'll hold my tongue here) say this? Seriously.

Usually I hear it from people that don't even own nissans and some ****** car reviewer.
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Child_uv_KoRn
Why does everyone (I'll hold my tongue here) say this? Seriously.

Usually I hear it from people that don't even own nissans and some ****** car reviewer.
Hold the car steady at 4k or above, the NVH is apparent. My old car a 1.8L celica at a steady 7k was still smooth all the way to its 8.4k revlimit. I drove a couple 3.0l 5gens before getting my 02, they were smoother as well.
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Child_uv_KoRn
Doesn't MB makes the worst rated luxury cars reliability wise?

This just sounds like trouble.



ther're acutually pretty reliable, from my experience and through word of mouth. never really heard someone bad mouth a MB.

but back to the original topic: i thought nissan was owned by Renault???? how does MB fit in the picture?
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PulsarGTS
Not a bad move imo. The 3.5L was rough around the edges and the 3.7L is every worse.
I haven't driven a 3.7 but I love the way my 3.5 pulls/runs/sounds. I think its a great engine.
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PulsarGTS
Hold the car steady at 4k or above, the NVH is apparent.
Pardon the n00b question, but, NVH?
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:21 PM
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That was my next guess...

Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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Took me a while too, had to it while I was reading a thread about such terms in other cars ... Apparently the VQ37 is bad in that department.
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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Honestly, I've never found the VQ to be too terribly unrefined. Especially compared to a lot of the rental cars I beat o...I mean, test drive.

Compared to the LS-1 I drove for a year, the VQ runs like a sewing machine.

However, the 2JZ I had blew both of them away in the smoothness department...
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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My VQ30 is far smoother than my VQ35.

@ sewing machine.
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:35 PM
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Couldn't come up with a better comparison.

It's a fairly smooth engine to me. Not silky smooth. But better than a lot of cars I've driven.

Especially the econoboxes like Cobalts and Focuses (Foci?). Now you wanna talk about a rattley, noisy engine...
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 07:53 PM
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The way the VQ roars when it gets to towards the redline makes the Mercedes soccer moms spill their Starbucks all over their fake *****.
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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This thread is a good little test for Manny. While it has merit for some discussion, it really has nothing to do with the 5th gen forum.
Originally Posted by SoonerFan
yeah i thought the same thing...better place for this...general...
And look where we are now, in the General Maxima Discussion forum.

Nice.
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
Couldn't come up with a better comparison.

It's a fairly smooth engine to me. Not silky smooth. But better than a lot of cars I've driven.

Especially the econoboxes like Cobalts and Focuses (Foci?). Now you wanna talk about a rattley, noisy engine...
I thought I was the only one that gave said plural pronunciation to the Focus..

Originally Posted by Rochester
And look where we are now, in the General Maxima Discussion forum.

Nice.
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 09:13 PM
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I thought I was the only one that gave said plural pronunciation to the Focus..
Apparently according to our language's Latin origin, Foci is grammatically correct.

So would that make our cars...Maximas? Or Maximi?
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 09:57 PM
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 10:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SLCPunk267
Apparently according to our language's Latin origin, Foci is grammatically correct.

So would that make our cars...Maximas? Or Maximi?
Maximae, actually.

Latin -a (singular), -ae (plural) is the feminine.
Latin -us (singular), -i (plural) is the masculine.

That means our cars are girls
Old Aug 7, 2010 | 10:45 PM
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Maximae, actually.

Latin -a (singular), -ae (plural) is the feminine.
Latin -us (singular), -i (plural) is the masculine.

That means our cars are girls
Maybe that explains why they're so tempermental when it comes to MAFs exploding, and ECUs randomly melting down.

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U effing serious?
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Me or nalc?
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TF is nalc?
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Originally Posted by NmexMAX
TF is nalc?
I is TF?



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