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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 08:05 PM
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maxes with cams

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i was just curious if anyone invested enough time and money in there max to put a set of cams in.
i would like to know of the power gains if any, and video clips cause it just sounds amazing
if theres dyno sheets post them if its too much and not worth it post
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 08:15 PM
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Yup plenty of people have. Heres a short list off the top of my head.

Jime
Aaron92se
Meximax
Jaypee99
96sleeper
24kondaway

Go in the all motor section you'll learn alot.
Old Jan 21, 2011 | 08:22 PM
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cool thanks
but i would really like some videos/ dyno sheets and sound clips i just really like the sound of a performance cam

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Old Jan 23, 2011 | 10:55 AM
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cool thanks
but i would really like some videos/ dyno sheets and sound clips i just really like the sound of a performance cam
there was an old video on youtube where this 4th gen had cams loping really hard. and a 5.5 gen with cams also. got a friend here with cams on his 4.5 swapped 4th gen here in dallas but he isnt on the org
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Originally Posted by maxed_out_99
cool thanks
but i would really like some videos/ dyno sheets and sound clips i just really like the sound of a performance cam
Search around Z/G enthusiast websites... They tend to make more videos...
Old Jan 23, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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there was an old video on youtube where this 4th gen had cams loping really hard. and a 5.5 gen with cams also. got a friend here with cams on his 4.5 swapped 4th gen here in dallas but he isnt on the org
i saw a couple videos on you tube but i just dont think they do the car justice they were poorly shot
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I've heard a 4th gen with S1 cams and if he didnt tell me he had them I would have never known. Also I've heard Jaypee99's 5.5 gen with BC stage 2 cams and the cam lope and very subtle. You'd have to really be listening for it to hear it.
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 03:52 PM
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wow really?
i would have figured with four cams it would be extreamly noticable
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 05:25 PM
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I think I have a vid with Iron lungs car, and you can definitely tell hes cammed,
I will see if I can dig it up and post it.......
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Old Jan 24, 2011 | 06:38 PM
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Yeah Iron Lung's car would be the best example. He has dynos as well.

On stock ECU, auto, stock rev limit, he picked up 23whp with the JWT S1, 256s.
Old Jan 24, 2011 | 07:09 PM
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looks like we gotta find iron lung and see if he will post
i searched his member name but there was, "no results found"
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Yup plenty of people have. Heres a short list off the top of my head.

Jime
Aaron92se
Meximax
Jaypee99
96sleeper
24kondaway

Go in the all motor section you'll learn alot.
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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everybody counts dont feel left out post some results of your performance cam and for the love of god somebody please post a video
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http://forums.maxima.org/general-max...aders-vid.html

Had to dig deep to find the thread. unfortuantly the vids dont work anymore. Check VQpower it may still work on there.
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Majestic Ken
there was an old video on youtube where this 4th gen had cams loping really hard. and a 5.5 gen with cams also. got a friend here with cams on his 4.5 swapped 4th gen here in dallas but he isnt on the org
i think i know what video you were talking about.
i think his max barely idled...
i believe his screen name was "ironlungs". not sure if he was a member on the .org though, i think he was from the VQpower forums ...

EDIT: DAMMIT AJ, you beat me to it! lol
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There are tons of Z and G videos with cams out there... but they generally won't sound like a Maxima since they run different headers and often have dual exhausts.
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 05:33 PM
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Damn Aaron killed that Mustang by like 15-20 Car lengths...and is there any Vids of Jaypee's with the BC stage 2.....
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by MoncefA33
Yeah Iron Lung's car would be the best example. He has dynos as well.

On stock ECU, auto, stock rev limit, he picked up 23whp with the JWT S1, 256s.
Would love to see the power curve on this.
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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Damn Aaron killed that Mustang by like 15-20 Car lengths...and is there any Vids of Jaypee's with the BC stage 2.....
As far as I know, Jay_pee doesn't make any videos aside from others catching him at the track sometimes. With the BC S2 and the cattman 3", you would probably have a very hard time identifying any lope. Unless you can play with intake VTC and advance it a little at idle....

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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:45 PM
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holy crap that thing is fast
ahhhhhhh
thats what im talkin about i feel satisfied thank you sparks03max
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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i saw that gold 4th gen on you tube i heard it with the full exhaust and the electric dump closed and, like most of you have mentioned, you cant really tell it has a set of cams. i wonder if the power gains of just the cams are worth the money
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Originally Posted by maxed_out_99
i saw that gold 4th gen on you tube i heard it with the full exhaust and the electric dump closed and, like most of you have mentioned, you cant really tell it has a set of cams. i wonder if the power gains of just the cams are worth the money
Peak gains aren't amazing... 15-20whp for a "normal" 260-264ish and 10.5-10.8 lift. However, It's gains under the curve by extending the power band after peak that make cams worth it.
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Cannot wait for mine...
Have some BC S2s sitting on a shelf a few feet away from me right now, myself
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
Have some BC S2s sitting on a shelf a few feet away from me right now, myself
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MoncefA33
I was holding out for BC S3s, JWT C8, or some of the Tomei 272ish cams... but these S2s fell into my lap at an amazingly low price that I couldn't pass up.
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:23 PM
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Peak gains aren't amazing... 15-20whp for a "normal" 260-264ish and 10.5-10.8 lift. However, It's gains under the curve by extending the power band after peak that make cams worth it.
so basically without a tune,and a 00vi you wont see much especially with the factory rev limit cams are not a cheap upgrade
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Originally Posted by sparks03max
I was holding out for BC S3s, JWT C8, or some of the Tomei 272ish cams... but these S2s fell into my lap at an amazingly low price that I couldn't pass up.
Same with my JWT S1.

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so basically without a tune,and a 00vi you wont see much especially with the factory rev limit cams are not a cheap upgrade
Yes.
Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by maxed_out_99
so basically without a tune,and a 00vi you wont see much especially with the factory rev limit cams are not a cheap upgrade
It would be pretty stupid to do cams before finishing all the other important NA mods... Tuning device being one of the most important. The 00VI is fine, though.
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yeah no kidding, while your at it might as well get some titanium valves and valve springs and port and polish the head. but the first thing i have to do is win the lottery
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yeah no kidding, while your at it might as well get some titanium valves and valve springs and port and polish the head. but the first thing i have to do is win the lottery
Lol there's no reason to get titanium valves and valve springs when stock valves with HR valve springs/retainers are fine up to 8k+ RPMs. Port and polish on the heads is a $2000+ job that can actually lose power on a mild setup such as my own (tested and proven thanks to SG motorsports, their 347whp dynos were done with stock heads). Also, installing cams and valvesprings alone does not require removing the heads. Installing valves and getting headwork done is much more total work and downtime.

ARP rod bolts, Revup oil pump, and HR springs/retainers (double shimmed) = the way to go along with cams for a safe 7500ish RPM build not including internals. With proper balancing, 8000+. As Dandymax has proven, going upwards of 8000 rpms on a stock balanced rotating assembly can cause shattered oil pumps so I'll probably be aiming for a rev limit around 7500-7600 depending on what's optimal for my shift points. Guess I'll leave 2-3whp on the table by keeping the stock harmonic balancer crank pulley also, especially since I already have an aluminum flywheel instead of the dual mass stocker.

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Old Jan 26, 2011 | 10:22 AM
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you elarn somthing new every day thanks for the info i had no idea vq's were built THAT good i knew they were good engines but just replacing the springs is incredible
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Originally Posted by maxed_out_99
you elarn somthing new every day thanks for the info i had no idea vq's were built THAT good i knew they were good engines but just replacing the springs is incredible
Rod bolts are a problem earlier than valve springs (7100-7200), but both are needed to safely rev to 7500.
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Damn Aaron killed that Mustang by like 15-20 Car lengths...and is there any Vids of Jaypee's with the BC stage 2.....
If he brings his max out to our meet this friday I'll get a vid of his car idleing. I do have one of him racing though.

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ARP rod bolts, Revup oil pump, and HR springs/retainers (double shimmed) = the way to go along with cams for a safe 7500ish RPM build not including internals.
This is the setup my girls max will be running next season. She's shooting for 12's with the EU tuned.
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This is the setup my girls max will be running next season. She's shooting for 12's with the EU tuned.
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