Dyno results of 4th gen and 5th gen supercharged Max (superimposed graph))

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Dec 27, 2001 | 11:58 PM
  #1  
Here's what the 4th and 5th gen supercharged Maximas look like:

http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...no_sc_both.jpg

It's superimposed for your viewing pleasure. Notice how Jane's hp and torque ( http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/...dyno_scj_a.jpg ) were higher than mine (http://wwwcsif.cs.ucdavis.edu/~chin/.../dyno_sc_a.jpg ) from about 4400 to about 5400.

Once the 5th gen variable intake runners kicked in, it was the end of the 4th gen dominance. There's about a 80 horsepower difference at about 6300.

If you 4th gen guys can get the 5th gen variable intake to work on your cars, IMHO, you'll get better numbers than the 5th gens.

Jane is boosting about 10 lbs. and I'm doing about 11 lbs. Crazyness...
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Dec 28, 2001 | 12:00 AM
  #2  
Grrrrrrrrrrr I want that varible intake
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Dec 28, 2001 | 12:03 AM
  #3  
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Originally posted by NmexMAX
Grrrrrrrrrrr I want that varible intake
~80 hp difference at 63K..... nice isn't it?
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Dec 28, 2001 | 12:06 AM
  #4  
Just a little....@#$&*
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Dec 28, 2001 | 12:08 AM
  #5  
Start researching.
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Dec 28, 2001 | 12:13 AM
  #6  
Yup, R&D, here I come
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Dec 28, 2001 | 01:00 AM
  #7  
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Originally posted by NmexMAX
Yup, R&D, here I come
Try the Variable intake manifold from the new zealand max, it looks like a direct bolt on.


Nice Kev
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Dec 28, 2001 | 02:08 AM
  #8  
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Originally posted by emax95


Try the Variable intake manifold from the new zealand max, it looks like a direct bolt on.


Nice Kev
As soon as I can find one, its a little more difficult to locate one than I thought it would be. By the way those are some interesting numbers. I wonder if/how much HP 4th geners would lose down low with the variable intake?
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Dec 28, 2001 | 04:03 AM
  #9  
Jane has more torque 4th Gens own 5th Gen's on Torque
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Dec 28, 2001 | 05:26 AM
  #10  
only 240 @ 10lbs of boost???? which pulley is Jane running?

What was the green torque reading? Notice how much richer the last run was
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Dec 28, 2001 | 05:27 AM
  #11  
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Originally posted by Confused
only 240 @ 10lbs of boost???? which pulley is Jane running?

What was the green torque reading? Notice how much richer the last run was
come on BB.. you know what pulley is 10 PSI.. 3.25
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Dec 28, 2001 | 06:27 AM
  #12  
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Originally posted by Confused
only 240 @ 10lbs of boost???? which pulley is Jane running?

What was the green torque reading? Notice how much richer the last run was
3.25 as Sprite said... I'll check the green torque reading for you tonight.
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Dec 28, 2001 | 06:30 AM
  #13  
Is Jane running an 8:1 fmu disc? Her graph is really rich. I would bet a 6:1 would show much more power!
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Dec 28, 2001 | 06:33 AM
  #14  
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Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
Is Jane running an 8:1 fmu disc? Her graph is really rich. I would bet a 6:1 would show much more power!
Yup... 8:1. Dynoing 6:1 in February.

So now you can feel safe going back down to 6:1.
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Dec 28, 2001 | 06:40 AM
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Dec 28, 2001 | 06:45 AM
  #16  
nice results on both


you should race Jane.... torque owns jOO
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Dec 28, 2001 | 06:57 AM
  #17  
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


Yup... 8:1. Dynoing 6:1 in February.

So now you can feel safe going back down to 6:1.
I do, thanks!

I only get 8.5psi of actual at the gauge boost outa my 3.25 with my V1. But the 3.125 will be on soon and that should get me to at least 9.5psi of actual at the gauge boost. Add some chilled water and look out!

When you do the 6:1 I would recomend you bring a set of two steps colder plugs with you, just incase the motor detonates a bit. This is soooo close to the edge with the 6:1 and 10psi that the two steps may be needed!
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Dec 28, 2001 | 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by UMD_MaxSE
nice results on both :-D


you should race Jane.... torque owns jOO




Thanks. hehehe
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Dec 28, 2001 | 07:13 AM
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Originally posted by MardiGrasMax


I do, thanks!

I only get 8.5psi of actual at the gauge boost outa my 3.25 with my V1. But the 3.125 will be on soon and that should get me to at least 9.5psi of actual at the gauge boost. Add some chilled water and look out!

When you do the 6:1 I would recomend you bring a set of two steps colder plugs with you, just incase the motor detonates a bit. This is soooo close to the edge with the 6:1 and 10psi that the two steps may be needed!
I still remember that advice you gave me after my dyno. Thanks.

Her motor detonated twice out of the 4 runs... happened at about 3300 when the dyno operator was starting to get the sampling. This doesn't happen during normal driving though. Any thoughts on this? Vacuum line to FMU is too long? I don't remember if the FMU runs off a tee, but I can check that when I get home today. Thanks for any advice/recommendations.
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Dec 28, 2001 | 09:01 AM
  #20  
A 80hp difference!

6300 rpms is very high to have such a difference. I know the 4th gen just drops at that time.

Its good that we have a comparison.

Track times are good.
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Dec 28, 2001 | 09:09 AM
  #21  
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Originally posted by Synki
A 80hp difference!

6300 rpms is very high to have such a difference. I know the 4th gen just drops at that time.

Its good that we have a comparison. ;-)

Track times are good. :-D
5th gen variable intake ownz jOO Stynki!
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Dec 28, 2001 | 09:10 AM
  #22  
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Originally posted by CoOlKidS1979


As soon as I can find one, its a little more difficult to locate one than I thought it would be. By the way those are some interesting numbers. I wonder if/how much HP 4th geners would lose down low with the variable intake?
Where you been trying? Maybe talk to road beast or NZ Max

SuDZ
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Dec 28, 2001 | 10:50 AM
  #23  
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Originally posted by CoOlKidS1979


As soon as I can find one, its a little more difficult to locate one than I thought it would be. By the way those are some interesting numbers. I wonder if/how much HP 4th geners would lose down low with the variable intake?
You should not lose any HP down low, that's the beauty of a variable inkake, it gives great low end and high end.
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Dec 28, 2001 | 11:08 AM
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Originally posted by emax95


You should not lose any HP down low, that's the beauty of a variable inkake, it gives great low end and high end.
You are correct. Nevermind that comment I looked at the graph early this morning before work and posted when I was to tired.
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Dec 28, 2001 | 11:27 PM
  #25  
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Originally posted by Confused
only 240 @ 10lbs of boost???? which pulley is Jane running?

What was the green torque reading? Notice how much richer the last run was
Green torque reading is 237.2

The really rich run was the first run, which made 233.6 hp and 236.6 torque.
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Dec 29, 2001 | 01:41 AM
  #26  
What is the exact RPM that the variable intake runners kick in on the 5th gen?
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Dec 29, 2001 | 10:40 AM
  #27  
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
What is the exact RPM that the variable intake runners kick in on the 5th gen?
About 5000.
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Dec 29, 2001 | 02:57 PM
  #28  
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


About 5000.
With the cold weather my car is running very strong. I find under WOT that around the low 5000's (i find it is above 5000 for sure) that the car gets an extra kick so that explains it.
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