how fast are these? and can we take them without s/c or nitrous?

 

the old z28 had a 305 in them wich was a good nice strong engine. Stock they run low 15 high 14s

 

umm - u can try going up against one.....but i woodnt be too confident

 

hmmm.... i hate it when those v8 pull next to me and expect me to race them...and i think i will next time...just to show them that my max can do 14s like them

 

The latest T/A's and Z-28's start with 300 hp stock. Add in a 6 speed and you can do the math. If it is a Camaro SS or a WS6 T/A, you are looking at I believe 330hp. They weigh more, but you can't ignore a difference of over 110 hp. I would just smile at them and tell them to have a nice day.

 

you do that. don't tell anyone you know me.

 

i need nitrous. HELP ME THOMAS!

 

Not a chance. Stock, they are the biggest bang for the buck. My 94 Z28 w/6spd ran 13.78 @ 104mph right from the factory. The only mod at the time was a Hurst short throw shifter as I hated the standard 8-ball. With less than $1000 CDN in bolt-ons (Mac headers, Borla cat-back, u/d pulley) that car ran 13.32 @ 109mph. Very easy cars to modify. My 2k2 6spd Max would take thousands more to even come close, if there were parts available. Remember, a Vortech on one of those LT1's or LS1's is ~$3500 and will give the thing well over 400bhp easily.

If you want to beat one, make sure the driver is asleep - even a stock one.

Albert

 

 

Take a look at my trap speed and then look at my post I made last night. Then tell me if you think you auto could ever hang with an LS1.

 

don't know which year max you have but consider the LT1 and LS1 f-bodies (93+) a near impossibility if you have bolt-ons (not power adders) and the f-car is a healthy well-driven example. Maybe if you have lots of bolt-ons, you might be able to take on a 2.73 gear automatic convertible LT1 (93-97) f-car, but after 120mph it also will begin to pull ahead. and as for current LS1s, forget it 6-spd '01 to '02s are the fastest and can run 13.2s to 13.0s easily at 106 to 109.5 mph showroom stock.

a much more appropriate and fun race would be against the supercharged GM FWD machines. my dad's reliable '96 bonneville se with the rare supercharged engine option (only avail. for base bonnes from '95 to '97 and in series II trim in '96-'97) ran a decent 14.525sec. at 94.06 mph in 100% stock trim/stock tires/full tank 93 octane as featured in High Performance Pontiac 10/1997. and that performance is definately within the realm of beating with your max plus bolt-ons or an '02 Max stock.

 

did u guys ever see that 10 second minivan????

 

like motectransam said, go for the convertible LT1. you won't beat a LS1. I have beat several LT1 convertibles. Some of the faster ones you can hang with for a few seconds if you are in the right powerband, like for me on a 30mph or 60 mph punch, but you will still get beaten in the long run.


my dad's reliable '96 bonneville se with the rare supercharged engine option (only avail. for base bonnes from '95 to '97 and in series II trim in '96-'97) ran a decent 14.525sec. at 94.06 mph in 100% stock

You must have gotten a ringer from the factory, because my dad has owned 3 supercharged bonneville's (95, 96, 00)and he has never beaten me in a race. He can hang off the line because of the torque, but then I would just start pulling away every time.

 

BriGuyMax and I took out an auto 2.73 Z28 on the way to the Detroit auto show. Stock, those cars are very restricted. They really open up with just basic mods, but a stock one can be taken out by a bolt on 5 speed max. We did it. If its an LS1, keep dreaming.

 

Um...he's no longer an auto. He did a 5spd swap, that's why he said he could 14s.

 

i love my 5 speed

 

Doesn't matter. If its anything more than an auto 2.83 LT1 hes gonna get beaten.