Nissan gets slammed in Consumer Reports
We need to remember that comparing the recent two Maxima generations with the first five is apples to oranges.
Ghosn told us in 2002 that the 6th gen Maxima would no longer be the 4DSC of the past. He said the Maxima would be taken up to near luxury, be the Nissan flagship, and the manual 3.5 version of the Altima would replace the Maxima as Nissan's affordable 4DSC. And Nissan did exactly that.
But the public did not listen, and Nissan was badgered with complaints from thousands of long-time Maxima fans who missed Ghosn's '02 message and felt abandoned. So, beginning with the 7th gen, Nissan brought back some sportiness to the Maxima, although keeping it at the near-luxury level. Yes, they threw a small 4DSC sticker in the left rear window, but everyone who keeps up with Nissan's shennanigans knew this 7th gen was never intended as a 4DSC.
Those here complaining that the Maxima can't compete with the luxury cars, is not a 4DSC, and therefore should be abandoned, are barking at the moon. Forget MSRP. I can buy a new base 'S' Maxima in the Atlanta area for around $23,900 and a loaded 'SV' Maxima with Premium and Tech packages for around $34,900. How many luxury cars can compete with that?
Ghosn said in 2002 that the Maxima would be intended as a flagship selling only around 70K per year, while the Altima would be Nissan's 'Everyman's' car, and would sell as many as Nissan could move off the lot - hopefully between 250K and 350k. And that is exactly where we are today. Right where Ghosn said we would be.
Since 1984, I have shopped the Maxima against other cars every time a new gen Maxima arrived, and found I liked what the Maxima gave me more than competing vehicles every time. Others may see things differently, but I know what I like, and the Maxima hits my target every time.
The CVT glitches that delayed the 8th gen Maxima have left us with a dark period in which we have a Maxima designed in 2006, experimental versions built and tested in 2007 and officially released to dealers in 2008. It is very 'long in the teeth.' Once the 8th gen arrives, I suspect we will see folks back on the Maxima bandwagon. They will need to shove very hard if they want on the 8th gen bandwagon ahead of me.
Ghosn told us in 2002 that the 6th gen Maxima would no longer be the 4DSC of the past. He said the Maxima would be taken up to near luxury, be the Nissan flagship, and the manual 3.5 version of the Altima would replace the Maxima as Nissan's affordable 4DSC. And Nissan did exactly that.
But the public did not listen, and Nissan was badgered with complaints from thousands of long-time Maxima fans who missed Ghosn's '02 message and felt abandoned. So, beginning with the 7th gen, Nissan brought back some sportiness to the Maxima, although keeping it at the near-luxury level. Yes, they threw a small 4DSC sticker in the left rear window, but everyone who keeps up with Nissan's shennanigans knew this 7th gen was never intended as a 4DSC.
Those here complaining that the Maxima can't compete with the luxury cars, is not a 4DSC, and therefore should be abandoned, are barking at the moon. Forget MSRP. I can buy a new base 'S' Maxima in the Atlanta area for around $23,900 and a loaded 'SV' Maxima with Premium and Tech packages for around $34,900. How many luxury cars can compete with that?
Ghosn said in 2002 that the Maxima would be intended as a flagship selling only around 70K per year, while the Altima would be Nissan's 'Everyman's' car, and would sell as many as Nissan could move off the lot - hopefully between 250K and 350k. And that is exactly where we are today. Right where Ghosn said we would be.
Since 1984, I have shopped the Maxima against other cars every time a new gen Maxima arrived, and found I liked what the Maxima gave me more than competing vehicles every time. Others may see things differently, but I know what I like, and the Maxima hits my target every time.
The CVT glitches that delayed the 8th gen Maxima have left us with a dark period in which we have a Maxima designed in 2006, experimental versions built and tested in 2007 and officially released to dealers in 2008. It is very 'long in the teeth.' Once the 8th gen arrives, I suspect we will see folks back on the Maxima bandwagon. They will need to shove very hard if they want on the 8th gen bandwagon ahead of me.
Nissan IS a mess and only getting worse. The top offender is the 5th gen Altima...now there are issue surfacing with the 7th gen Maxima....did all of you guys forget the issue most had with the timing chain tensioners/slack guide(s)? Just because sales have jumped a certain percent doent mean that they are actually building a better product. On the contrary...it means they have very attractive "wrappers" and they price them below competitors for the most part, WHICH could account for the increase in sales. Its only after owning one that the issues start to show. The MR18DE was a defective design that even the engineers couldnt figure out, soooo Nissan, being ReNault, simply stop making it. (excessive piston slap reported on the Versa, Cube, and Sentra) Nissan would replace the short block, and when the issue came back, they would do no more. Anyone really want to see where Nissan will end up only needs to look at the success Renault had here in the states...lol Same tactics are being used in nissan. Consider this for thought...Carlos is strongly considering discotinuing the iconic GTR in favor of more affordable, mass production passenger cars....This means more profit for them by building what they see fit. Kinda funny how Nissan has a new reprogram for the CVT tranny in the 5th gen Altima that will make it "sound" more like a traditional auto shifting transmission. Yes, this is true. Search. lol
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