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Old Jan 27, 2002 | 01:55 PM
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Nitrous Express or Zex?

i can get a hookup on either of those brands. which is better?
Old Jan 27, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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Old Jan 27, 2002 | 02:02 PM
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NOS kit # 5124.
Old Jan 27, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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you dont seem to be understanding the question
Old Jan 27, 2002 | 02:16 PM
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Originally posted by magnum
you dont seem to be understanding the question
you don't undertand the answer.... get an NOS kit, probably the most reliable and widely used kit out!
Old Jan 27, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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you don't undertand the answer.... get an NOS kit, probably the most reliable and widely used kit out!
what the - if youre not gonna answer my question, dont reply
Old Jan 27, 2002 | 02:45 PM
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Originally posted by MaximaRider
NOS
Old Jan 27, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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they mean nitrous express...?
Old Jan 27, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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zex is a good kit!
very good for the maxima
most people use nos. Alot of people have not
even seen a zex kit so cant always depend on them for
a good answer.
I go am going with zex and alot of people I know go
with it to.
Old Jan 27, 2002 | 03:02 PM
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no we don't mean Nitrous Express we mean NOS, sorry but that is the most reliable kit out there and i do understand your ? but what exactly is your hookup, much rather spend the exrta few $$ on the proven NOS kit.
Old Jan 27, 2002 | 03:03 PM
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NOS is a brand, stands for Nitrous Oxide Systems.

People recommend that brand for what it's worth thus why everyone is replying with that answer even though it's really not in any of the choices given.

I don't know much about nitrous kits but when i had my Civic everyone at the Honda side of things swear by Zex.

Old Jan 27, 2002 | 05:51 PM
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Originally posted by soundmike
NOS is a brand, stands for Nitrous Oxide Systems.

People recommend that brand for what it's worth thus why everyone is replying with that answer even though it's really not in any of the choices given.

I don't know much about nitrous kits but when i had my Civic everyone at the Honda side of things swear by Zex.

Do zex kits work on the max now? There was a problem because zex needed 4 volts on the tps and the max only had 3.8 volts at WOT. the zet kit would never activate...(unless you messed with the TPS)
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NOS and ZEX suck...go for NX

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Old Jan 27, 2002 | 06:47 PM
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Out of ZEX and NX, go with NX. The ZEX kits aren't all that great. And NOS kits aren't better than NX. I have a NOS kit, and my GF has a NX kit. The NX kit is much more comprehensive, and detailed. Honestly, I was a little disappointed with the NOS kit, it's really, really basic. The NX kit just seemed to be a higher quality. Even the bottle brackets were better. But they both function pretty much the same. On Maximas, some say that you shouldn't use the wet kit which is what NX kits all are, but I really haven't heard of that many people with problems. NOS isn't really any more proven than NX, both are very high quality kits and both companies are very reputable. I love some of the guys responding to this thread. They don't even own either kit and don't have any experience, but they heard someone else say NOS, so let's just jump on the bandwagon.
Old Jan 27, 2002 | 06:53 PM
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Zex lacks the accessories and it's limited to 75 shot. 75 shot on a 4 banger is plenty, but on a V6 it's just not enough. Go with NX.
Old Jan 27, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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Do you guys think that the stock tranny on the 2k2 (Auto) can handle a 75-up shot of Nitrous?
Old Jan 27, 2002 | 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by soundmike
Do you guys think that the stock tranny on the 2k2 (Auto) can handle a 75-up shot of Nitrous?
My 1996 100,000 mile stock Tranny held my 75 shot...it held the 100 shot too, but I found it too dificult to use right now.

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Old Jan 27, 2002 | 08:06 PM
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thanks a lot guys, ill go with the NX kit. all the info is much appreciated
Old Mar 6, 2002 | 12:50 AM
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Originally posted by 1MAX2NV
Zex lacks the accessories and it's limited to 75 shot. 75 shot on a 4 banger is plenty, but on a V6 it's just not enough. Go with NX.
Not enough for what? Not everyone wants a 100 shot of nos, some people are just looking for that little extra umph. Maybe the ZEX kit would be good for someone looking to get a 75 shot. And maybe the NOS kit would be good for someone looking to get the 100 shot. It varies a lot. And a 75 shot on a V6 is gonna give a pretty damn good gain. Take Care
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I believe NX is the best. However, I am using the NOS 5124 though because my Son gave it to me now that he is sponsored by NX. NX is expensive, but support is top notch. Depends on how much you want to spend and how fast you want to go. Free is goood for me so I won't complain and there is lots more help on the 5124 kit than anything else. Just make sure you listen to the experts and get an upgraded fuel pump and fuel pressure regulator if you are going to use large shots ie 60-70+ and get a fuel pressure gauge otherwise you are going blind on what the pressure is and that is paramount to pretty much anything else.
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 06:10 AM
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go with what kit hsa the most support and experience by maxima owners..

Zex kits on this board = less than 5
NX kits on this board = less than 3
NOS kits on this board = over 10

its your choice.. who you going to call to help you with your kit? Erik and maybe the 1 other person who has it?
Old Mar 6, 2002 | 06:12 AM
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and Basic means easier to tune.. i would go with a basic kit because i can customize it better, work with it better.. who wants to deal with all that fancy stuff anyway.. you know what they say.. too much electronics causes problems.. thats why OBD1 cars are so easy to mod.. they are basic
Old Mar 6, 2002 | 06:32 AM
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75 shot = ~55 FWHP. All I was saying is with NOS or NX you have the flexibility to UPGRADE. How do you know 75 shot on a V6 will give pretty good gain? First hand experience? Then again, I really don't know what I'm talking about.

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Not enough for what? Not everyone wants a 100 shot of nos, some people are just looking for that little extra umph. Maybe the ZEX kit would be good for someone looking to get a 75 shot. And maybe the NOS kit would be good for someone looking to get the 100 shot. It varies a lot. And a 75 shot on a V6 is gonna give a pretty damn good gain. Take Care
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another thing to note.. 75 shot on Zex kit is less hp than 75 shot on a NOS kit..
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Originally posted by SprintMax
another thing to note.. 75 shot on Zex kit is less hp than 75 shot on a NOS kit..
Wet will hit harder then Dry.

Plus hasn't a bunch of people like 3 months ago running NOS had major problems with their cars?

Don't just buy something because the majority of the people have it. NOS can be up to half the price of NX, and that is a major factor. If you really want Nitrous...do the research.

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you know Erik i always let you mouth off and i let it slide because you think you know what you are talking about.. but in actuallity.. you only know half of the **** you think you know..

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Wet will hit harder then Dry.
wet does not hit harder than dry.. they both hit the same by shot.. hitting harder is determined by kit.. not wet or dry..

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Plus hasn't a bunch of people like 3 months ago running NOS had major problems with their cars?
2 people had problems with NOS..

Tilley and Myself..

Tilley's problem was with a wet kit.. not the NOS kit per say.. he sprayed between gears.. thats not a NOS issue.. i thought i had an issue with my Car.. in actuallity.. i don't.. my car is fine.. that was just me freaking out over nothing.. my NOS kit is still running fine.. 100 SHOT and going strong..

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Don't just buy something because the majority of the people have it. NOS can be up to half the price of NX, and that is a major factor. If you really want Nitrous...do the research.
yes you do buy something because the majority has it.. thats how you get support..

second of all.. the NX kit isn't designed for a maxima so it doesn't hit like the NOS kit does.. thats why the some guy is running 14.5 on a 75 shot NX kit w/ 2.2 60ft and BriGuyMax is running 14.0 on a 50 shot with a NOS kit w/ 2.2 60ft .. the NOS kit is better than the NX kit.. its designed for 4 cyl applications.. not 6

Originally posted by tifosiv122
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edit: 3 people had problems with NOS kits.. Roadbeast blew his engine because summit sent him the wrong jets for his Wet kit ...
Old Mar 6, 2002 | 07:12 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
wet does not hit harder than dry.. they both hit the same by shot.. hitting harder is determined by kit.. not wet or dry..
When your in a car with 75 wet vs 75 dry, the wet will hit harder. I don't care what you say. Will I argue this point anymore? No. I will never bring it up again. This is my opinion and that of other orger's (some of which have NOS). I will not bring up names (nor do I care if you feel this is not a defense).


yes you do buy something because the majority has it.. thats how you get support.. ..
So if 25 people had the Sarona body kit and only 10 people had the Stillen kit, you'd buy Sarona because it would be the "highest quality"? Just because everyone uses it doesn't make it good.

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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 07:16 AM
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Now that you edited I need to reply to a few more:

So if I had an identical car as you do we would run identical times, right? Or does the driver actually make some difference?

Ohh, and the way you were crying about your car you made it seem like the engine was blown. Now, I didn't keep up with how everything went, I just said that 3 people had problems. (Which I was right)

Did you say NOS is better because its designed for 4cyl?
Just curious.

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Originally posted by tifosiv122


When your in a car with 75 wet vs 75 dry, the wet will hit harder. I don't care what you say. Will I argue this point anymore? No. I will never bring it up again. This is my opinion and that of other orger's (some of which have NOS). I will not bring up names (nor do I care if you feel this is not a defense).
75 Shot at what PSI? bottle pressure is a big deal.. so just because you raced someone with 75 shot dry and you had 75 shot wet doesn't mean anything.. time after time they have proven to be the same.. and were both cars the same year? the same mods? too many factors Erik.. jeez .. look how many cars here have the same exact mods and cars are faster than other cars.. i thought you were smarter than that Erik.. no two cars are the same.. doesn't mean that one kit hits harder than another.. did they weigh the same? i mean come on Erik... i KNOW you are smarter than that.. but back to the original point.. the dry and wet kit hit the same .. no need to argue.. you are WRONG!!!


Originally posted by tifosiv122
So if 25 people had the Sarona body kit and only 10 people had the Stillen kit, you'd buy Sarona because it would be the "highest quality"? Just because everyone uses it doesn't make it good.

Erik
1) if both the kits were performance orientated?
2) if installing both kits could result in death?
3) if both kits looked the same exact way?
4) if both kits were at the quality?


1) Nitrous kits are performance orientated.. they all add to the cars performance.. if they are giving the same performance at the same shot and more people had the NOS kit.. YES i would get a NOS kit
2) Nitrous kits if installed incorrectly can result in death.. it is on almost every page of the NOS kit... YES i would get a NOS kit if more people had it.. i have a better chance of installing it correctly if i know 25 people installed the kit correctly as opposed to 5 people
3) Nitrous kits aren't for looks.. apart from the bottle that is the only "SHOW" you can get out of a Nitrous kit and bottles are interchangeble with all Kits.. if i want a NOS kit with an NX bottle or ZEX bottle or Chrome bottle.. its all possible.. no problems there..
4) NOS has been in business longer than NX and Zex .. that tells me the quaility is proven.. all the guys with High HP use NOS kits because the solenoids have been proven for years and they trust NOS .. that way they know they don't have to worry about new market solenoids failing on them in the future..


A body kit is not a Nitrous kit.. don't try to insult my intelligence Erik
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Originally posted by tifosiv122
Now that you edited I need to reply to a few more:
I got all day brother

Originally posted by tifosiv122
So if I had an identical car as you do we would run identical times, right? Or does the driver actually make some difference?
nope.. their is no such thing as identical cars.. never was.. never will be.. i don't care if you have two 95 SE's with two cattman pipes and two Cold Air intakes driven back to back by the same driver.. no such thing as identical.. too many factors erik.. plugs.. carbon buildup.. fuel filter.. air filter.. too many.. NO TWO CARS ARE THE SAME..

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Ohh, and the way you were crying about your car you made it seem like the engine was blown. Now, I didn't keep up with how everything went, I just said that 3 people had problems. (Which I was right)
yes.. i cried.. i weeped.. now i am over it.. well technically 2 people had problems.. and funny.. they both had WET kits.. its not linked to NOS in anyway..

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Did you say NOS is better because its designed for 4cyl?
Just curious.
no i did not.. read it again..

Originally posted by tifosiv122
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 07:37 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
the NOS kit is better than the NX kit.. its designed for 4 cyl applications.. not 6
Direct quote.

So again, is NOS better because it's designed for a 4 cyl? Would you like to read it again?

If there are no identical cars then why compare track times of 2 different cars running the same shot of nitrous? You disproved your own defense!

Ohh and I wasn't insulting your intelligence by saying identical cars, I put a ? mark at the end....sarcasm!

The other two wet kits were NOS also, no? Thats the impression I got. If I am wrong, sorry.

Yes, I shouldn't have compared Nitrous to Body Kits....but if you would understand what I was saying...you shouldn't buy ANYTHING, JUST because most people have it.

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Originally posted by tifosiv122


Direct quote.

So again, is NOS better because it's designed for a 4 cyl? Would you like to read it again?
"the NOS kit is better than the NX kit.. its designed for 4 cyl applications.. not 6"

because IT the NX kit is designed for 4 cyl applications .. not 6.. thus resulting in why the NOS kit is better than the NX kit.. the NOS kit is designed for all cyl applications.. where as the NX kit is not its only for 4... la la laaa.. blah blah blah.. horses are dead.. cows are fat.. the mountains are tall.. my ***** is small.. *** for tat.. nack nack nack.. woo hoo.. wooo doggie..

Originally posted by tifosiv122
If there are no identical cars then why compare track times of 2 different cars running the same shot of nitrous? You disproved your own defense!
you have a point.. but as Tony said before also.. its proven that the NX kit puts less hp to the wheels than the NOS kit..

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Ohh and I wasn't insulting your intelligence by saying identical cars, I put a ? mark at the end....sarcasm!?

ha

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The other two wet kits were NOS also, no? Thats the impression I got. If I am wrong, sorry.?
yes you are correct.. however it was an issue with the WET not the Dry that cause the problem.. Roadbeast had the wrong funnel jets for his WET kit.. that blew his engine.. WET kit problem.. Tilley had no RPM switch with his WET kit.. not a NOS problem..

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Yes, I shouldn't have compared Nitrous to Body Kits....but if you would understand what I was saying...you shouldn't buy ANYTHING, JUST because most people have it. ?
well the reasons i gave you ARE reasons why you SHOULD buy something because everyone has it.. its like if Hogan Incorprated (no offence Hogan.. just an example) came out with a Supercharger tomorow.. and you wanted to Supercharge your car.. would you buy Hogan's kit because it gave the same HP as the Stillen kit? knowing that its new.. hardly anyone has it.. you won't find any Maxima 0wners around to help you tune it and it cost almost twice as much as the Stillen Kit.. i mean.. if you post "I have the Hogan SC what does does this part do?" and wait for 1 other guy who post who has it who hardly visits the board? or would you buy a Stillen SC that 40 people have and know you are getting an answer 40 times faster? its your choice Erik..


Originally posted by tifosiv122

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Originally posted by SprintMax


"the NOS kit is better than the NX kit.. its designed for 4 cyl applications.. not 6"

because IT the NX kit is designed for 4 cyl applications .. not 6..

So you had it backwards...apologize!


yes you are correct.. however it was an issue with the WET not the Dry that cause the problem.. Roadbeast had the wrong funnel jets for his WET kit.. that blew his engine.. WET kit problem.. Tilley had no RPM switch with his WET kit.. not a NOS problem..
Could the problem lie with NOS and their selinoids?
Please don't bash this....just my opinion.

well the reasons i gave you ARE reasons why you SHOULD buy something because everyone has it.. its like if Hogan Incorprated (no offence Hogan.. just an example) came out with a Supercharger tomorow.. and you wanted to Supercharge your car.. would you buy Hogan's kit because it gave the same HP as the Stillen kit? knowing that its new.. hardly anyone has it.. you won't find any Maxima 0wners around to help you tune it and it cost almost twice as much as the Stillen Kit.. i mean.. if you post "I have the Hogan SC what does does this part do?" and wait for 1 other guy who post who has it who hardly visits the board? or would you buy a Stillen SC that 40 people have and know you are getting an answer 40 times faster? its your choice Erik..
Again, only point I was trying to make....don't buy something JUST because others have it. Do the research and buy which you think it best.

BTW: Maxima's are not the best selling cars in the catagory, should we all be driving Honda's or Toyota's?

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I wanted to make sure you were reading EVERTHING I said
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Originally posted by tifosiv122


So you had it backwards...apologize!



Originally posted by tifosiv122

Could the problem lie with NOS and their selinoids?
Please don't bash this....just my opinion.
Nah.. problem lied with the owners.. Tilley should have had an RPM switch.. solenoids did there job.. they opened when tilley asked.. tilley just never told them to close .. Roadbeast problem lies with Summit.. they sent him the wrong size jets so he was getting too much Nitrous.. solenoids did there job.. Summit did not.



Originally posted by tifosiv122

Again, only point I was trying to make....don't buy something JUST because others have it. Do the research and buy which you think it best.
Again.. if more people are around to help you and they have proven to make it work.. thats the Research!! thats why you buy it!!!

Originally posted by tifosiv122

BTW: Maxima's are not the best selling cars in the catagory, should we all be driving Honda's or Toyota's?
I don't think any other Manual Tranny v6 Sedan compares to the maxima .. but thats just my opinion



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Doug

I wanted to make sure you were reading EVERTHING I said
Erik

oh i read it alright.. and i see you are reading mine also.. you are just not fully comprehending
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Originally posted by SprintMax
oh i read it alright.. and i see you are reading mine also.. you are just not fully comprehending
Nice...well I am done with this arguement....I must eat now.

Till we meet again!

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Originally posted by tifosiv122
Nice...well I am done with this arguement....I must eat now.
its a discussion.. not an argument ..

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Till we meet again!
oh yes.. we shall.. we shall .. we shall.. we shall..

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Who's this "Doug" you guys are talking about?
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Originally posted by SprintMax


its a discussion.. not an argument ..


How about a heated debate?

oh yes.. we shall.. we shall .. we shall.. we shall..
Don't we always?!?

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(ooh, I get carried away sometimes)
It's actually,

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Originally posted by tifosiv122


How about a heated debate?
no that would result in name calling, ***** waving and other insults .. none of which were present in this thread.. so its still a discussion..

Originally posted by tifosiv122
Don't we always?!?
Not really.. but I see a trend developing here


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GOD
yes my son? ..

Originally posted by tifosiv122
(ooh, I get carried away sometimes)
It's actually,

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Originally posted by tifosiv122
BTW...stop repying, I really need to leave, but I can't stop checking to see if you did or not....damn you.
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