for sHo

My friend just got a brand new 2002 M3 yesterday, and if there were any words to describe that thing I would, but there aren't so I'll refrain from doing that . So I was just wondering how does a supercharged or NOS'ed maxima compare to the new M3, in terms of speed and what not. Because I don't like feeling like I'm standing still even though I'm flooring the sh*t outta my car, so I have to do something to my max or just get an M3 somehow , so opinions/facts please, how do the 2 compare.

BlkCat

Never sat in an M3 yet but my SC still puts a smile on my face!

for sHo

I'm afraid it might take that smile away if you ever get to sit in or better yet drive an M3 , that's why I started this thread because I want to get some facts on how they 2 compare.

Cisco

After driving my friend's 2001 M3 last August, it made me put down a payment on a 2002 M3. I have to say that I doubt that an SC Max, Nos Max can compare with the new M3's. My opinion is that you can do all the suspension and engine mod's on the max, and yet it still wont compare to the newer M3's.

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CoolMax

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My opinion is that your opinion is fact.
A Maxima shouldn't compare to a new M3.:bash:

Tubbed'65

I have a SC 99SE, I still like the M5's better. 396hp, RWD, 6 speed...the list is endless. However so is the price

OgreDave

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i agree. m3 would spank the max, all around. then again, you could buy like 3-4 of my car for the price of one m3

JJW95SC

I rode in a '99 M3 5spd. Nice car but tiny inside. FWIW, it didn't feel much faster than my SC'd 95SE. IMO, for $40-45k it should be alot more car.

Jim

SuDZ

Yeah it is the price thing that is the problem. Everything else is so sweet though.

SuDZ

JJW95SC

Yes, not to mention the cost of insurance, maintenance, etc.

Jim

MikeyMax

I've seen the new M3 get smoked by a slightly modded WRX.
Both good drivers.
smoked...meaning 1.5 car lengths.
Many witnesses at Purdue.

Cisco

I seriously doubt that WRX was "slightly modded". I'm baffled why people are so into the speed factor. How about reliablity? How does a SC/NOS max compare with the M3 in regards to reliablity?

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craaaazzy

i raced my buddy's 2002 m3 w/ my basically stock 2k1 max. on the highway, from 70 to about 110. me in 3rd, him in 5th, killed him! haha. me in 3rd, him in 4th, pretty even for first second, then he left me. both in 3rd...forget about it! it was fun though, i love those cars...some day i will get an m5.

MikeyMax

The driver of the WRX is a technician at an import tuning shop. He just has his car tuned very well.
WRX with a gutted exhaust gets good hp gains.
Stock M3 goes 0-60 4.9sec
WRX 5.4
seems reasonable.

JMAX95

If it's all about speed, I'm sure there are many cars that can beat an M3. I've driven my cousin's 2k2 M3. It's fun as hell; super smooth and responsive. But I don't think it's all about the speed. When you buy and M3 you're getting:

1. the BMW name
2. the M3 name (M cars have some heritage)
3. the engine
4. the technology
5. the chasis
6. the interior (this is something the WRX or Max can't even touch).
There are probably others, but I believe the list above is sufficient. I guess the Z can somewhat fall into this category, but it's still not even close to a M car.

So people can mod the hell out of their max's and wrx's and maybe beat a M3, but I would still rather own an M3.

2M0A0X2

the M3 would still be better.....you might be comparable in a straight line, but on handling, you would be screwed over by the M.

AznWontonboy

Hell yea, in twisties, Fuggetboutit. They are comparble to higher end exotic cars.. I.E. ferrari's.

rwbro719

An M3 is my choice for a stock performance vehicle under 50k
Stillen is the answer for a supercharger. They recommend a 7 PSI for quality issues. Must wait until NISMO produces upgrades in September.
I come from a similiar business and many say that they will produce parts for the upcoming 350z,g35,skyline,etc........... this is bull****!
THEY WILL PRODUCE FOR VEHICLES ON THE ROAD NOW! IT'S ALL ABOUT SELLING NOW. WHAT IS ON THE ROAD NOW. VOICE YOUR OPINION.
i ASSURE EVERYONE THAT THIS IS THE CASE. My supercharged Harley-Davidson motorcycle was a priority over the V-Rod.
They will make one for the V_Rod but not right away....
Vendors will support the road before developement~! I know this market well
rob

CoolMax

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Bravo, well said!

Is everyone on the BBS this sensible?

theblue

comparing the M3 to the maxima is like comparing a mcdonalds burger to an expensive steak.

I like both of them, when I'm hungry either will fill me up but if they were both the same price I doubt a bigmac will be my choice and it won't impress anybody like a steak will. Both have their advantages, but they are not the kind of things people compare.

Cisco

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costcowholesale

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tzuuyang

How about a 2k2 M3 and around 95 or 96 NSX?? My cousin was asking me the question since he was looking into both of them..I will choose either one tho..Both nice cars and also 95 NSX still pretty reliable. But if going to a club, I believe NSX will get more attention than the new M3 right!! I heard NSX's handleing is like super super good, I don't know about if it compare the the new M3 which will be better??

--Richard

Cisco

Do you buy a car for your own personal satisfaction, or to show off to others?

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tzuuyang

Can I do both?? If I have that money to buy these two cars, I will buy either one of them but just that it's a hard decision for me or for my cousin, that is why I ask here!!

--Richard

Frank Fontaine

This question just doesn't seem to go away. Well, to put it this way, a 1st gen, 2nd gen, 3rd gen, 4th gen, SC 4th gen, 5th gen Maxima does not compare with a M3. It was the pre-1984 dilemma--how does a Corvette compare with a Porsche? Ooops......sorry, most people weren't even born in 1984 yet.

All kidding aside, just test drive the E36 M3 at your local BMW dealer. Go for the worst of the M3's, the 1995. If you do the '96+ then this d*** question will come up again. how does the 95 M3 compare to Maxima? I drove a M3 Lightweight and like I said before, I see where the Integra Type R got its heart.

Lyt97SC

well if you're talkin about ET's the E36 M3 was tested at 14.2, the E46 M3 at 13.3 or so. A general SC 5-speed Maxima will run high 13s or so and a auto SC maxima about low 14s.

Uncle Max

When ever I get my cat out. I ran the new before I put it the shop.
We ran from a roll @ 15mile. I stayed with him in first. he started to pull in third then in third he pulled like 2 cars on me.
Then we both got pulled over for racing and got some big A$$ tickets.

Unclemax: all the boltons and Ecu except pully. i was riding solo
New M3: stock convertable, and 4 PEOPLE in the car.

So I pretty much got my bootey handed to me.

Same results running new M5 but it seemed slower than the M3 and I didn't get busted.

But that the first car I wanna run when the Turbo gets tuned.

max'n out

A 2k2 M3 against a stock boost s/c max, hands down m3 duh!


But at a point enough boost on a max,tranny mods, traction stuff, it could get close.

Cisco

At a cost of reliability.

GC

QUOTE]Originally posted by max'n out
A 2k2 M3 against a stock boost s/c max, hands down m3 duh!


But at a point enough boost on a max,tranny mods, traction stuff, it could get close. [/QUOTE]

Frank Fontaine

My car will trounce the E36 M3 when I get my 18" rims this week......ahahahahaa

The E46 M3 does 0-60 in the 4's, there's no way any Maxima could do that without radical modification and that wouldn't be reasonable. There's simply no reason to keep asking. Anyone who asks hasn't driven an M3, it's that simple. It's as if you want to find some kind of fault in that car. The E36 basically ripped all cars in it's price range from 95-98. Yeah, some newer hardtop Vettes showed up on the scene with a mysterious sub 40k price tag. Try to buy one for that price!! Oddly enough I have only seen 1 E46 M3 and that was in Montréal. I've seen about 5 M5's though.

Cisco

They are extremely hard to find, and if you do find one, expect to pay $5-10k above MSRP. I've been waiting since Mid Summer 2001 to get mine.

GC

Supermachoman

I had to wait 9 months for my 996 Carrera 4, I feel your pain.

max'n out

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Not if done right. I"m not saying it'd be simple. Alot of work yeilds alot of results.

Maximamike

I've got 3 words..

Sequantial Manual Gearbox..

*drool*

tifosiv122

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I am too lazy to read the whole thread but here is my input:

I raced a new M5 when I was using my 75 shot of nitrous. I pulled on him till about 45 and then he started to pull on me. At the middle of my fourth gear he shifted into 5th and it was over. Without the top gears I doubt a Max would have a chance.

Erik

Uncle Max

We got plenty here in Houston. Then again I saw yellow diablo and two 360 Modenaa within 10minutes of each other on Sat. I've seen plenty of the new 911 Turbos (996 I thnk) those are awsome. Galleria seems to be the area to showoff those nice cars. Finding any M is gonna be easy on my hunt for the M's. Muahahaha!! Ok i'll laughing if I still get spanked

HondaKiller718

I Like Big Mac's better

CFster

Be happy with what you have. There's always some yahoo down the street who has something faster.

Chebosto

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just cuz u have a supercharger doesnt mean your car is magically better than say a european car. well maybe for Keving... but anyhoo.. just means that you can accelerate faster.
i think my max would be slightly faster than the old m3 circa 95-99
the brand new m3s are freakin insane-o. i'm not even going to attempt to rev on those guys.

pitty. i just want the shear brute torque that a rwd car has.. sigh...