Incredible differece from being modded & going back to stock
02-18-2002, 06:16 PM
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Incredible differece from being modded & going back to stock
Now that my car is fully back to stock, i must say, its pretty sad. Removing the CAI i didn't notice much but after that y-pipe came out, wow, the car is just slow. 
Running stock now & when i was on a 100 shot is like night & day. I think i am already having nitrous withdrawl. 
It time to move on to faster things.
Running stock now & when i was on a 100 shot is like night & day. I think i am already having nitrous withdrawl. It time to move on to faster things.
02-18-2002, 07:04 PM
#5
Re: Incredible differece from being modded & going back to stock
Originally posted by Synki
Now that my car is fully back to stock, i must say, its pretty sad. Removing the CAI i didn't notice much but after that y-pipe came out, wow, the car is just slow. Running stock now & when i was on a 100 shot is like night & day. I think i am already having nitrous withdrawl.
It time to move on to faster things.
Now that my car is fully back to stock, i must say, its pretty sad. Removing the CAI i didn't notice much but after that y-pipe came out, wow, the car is just slow.
Running stock now & when i was on a 100 shot is like night & day. I think i am already having nitrous withdrawl. It time to move on to faster things.
Erik
02-18-2002, 08:31 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Incredible differece from being modded & going back to stock
Originally posted by AznWontonboy
If what you posted means Z06 will burn a supra.. try that after mods.
If what you posted means Z06 will burn a supra.. try that after mods.
www.turboimports.com
400rwhp supra for 1700 for the BEST parts. ZO6=supra's toilet.
02-18-2002, 08:38 PM
#9
Z06 is faster than a stock supra.. you can't compare modded cars to stock cars.. mod for mod the Z06 will be as fast as a supra.. the price it cost for a supra to run 10's.. you can get a 150 shot NOS kit for a Z06 and run 9's.. well SW does 
02-19-2002, 06:24 AM
#10
Re: Incredible differece from being modded & going back to stock
Originally posted by Synki
Now that my car is fully back to stock, i must say, its pretty sad. Removing the CAI i didn't notice much but after that y-pipe came out, wow, the car is just slow. Running stock now & when i was on a 100 shot is like night & day. I think i am already having nitrous withdrawl.
It time to move on to faster things.
Now that my car is fully back to stock, i must say, its pretty sad. Removing the CAI i didn't notice much but after that y-pipe came out, wow, the car is just slow.
Running stock now & when i was on a 100 shot is like night & day. I think i am already having nitrous withdrawl. It time to move on to faster things.
I recently returned my 97 back to stock and now its my mom's car. Man, is that think slow compared to mine. What's even worse is the suspension. The stock setup (SE suspension) is like a boat! I get sea sick driving the damn thing.
02-19-2002, 06:56 AM
#11
Originally posted by SprintMax
Z06 is faster than a stock supra.. you can't compare modded cars to stock cars.. mod for mod the Z06 will be as fast as a supra.. the price it cost for a supra to run 10's.. you can get a 150 shot NOS kit for a Z06 and run 9's.. well SW does
Z06 is faster than a stock supra.. you can't compare modded cars to stock cars.. mod for mod the Z06 will be as fast as a supra.. the price it cost for a supra to run 10's.. you can get a 150 shot NOS kit for a Z06 and run 9's.. well SW does
exactly thats what i meant
Supra <---
---Z06 Vette
---Z06 Vette
02-19-2002, 08:26 AM
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Originally posted by ericdwong
Umm a modded z06 will toast the F outta a modded supra for alot cheaper. One reasons I dont like japanese cars to mod is that it costs too much to repair and mod compared to the american counterpart.
Umm a modded z06 will toast the F outta a modded supra for alot cheaper. One reasons I dont like japanese cars to mod is that it costs too much to repair and mod compared to the american counterpart.
02-19-2002, 10:01 AM
#14
Originally posted by SprintMax
Z06 is faster than a stock supra.. you can't compare modded cars to stock cars.. mod for mod the Z06 will be as fast as a supra.. the price it cost for a supra to run 10's.. you can get a 150 shot NOS kit for a Z06 and run 9's.. well SW does
Z06 is faster than a stock supra.. you can't compare modded cars to stock cars.. mod for mod the Z06 will be as fast as a supra.. the price it cost for a supra to run 10's.. you can get a 150 shot NOS kit for a Z06 and run 9's.. well SW does
02-19-2002, 10:06 AM
#15
Originally posted by deezo
I have the a vid of a Z06 running a 75 shot doing 9 in the 1/4.
I have the a vid of a Z06 running a 75 shot doing 9 in the 1/4.
http://cad.mdsog.net/movies/supra/SW...44%5b1%5d.mpeg
02-19-2002, 10:18 AM
#16
Originally posted by Miguel97GLE
How much was that Z06? 50K+? You can get a SupraTT for 20-28K! Alot cheaper? Don't get me wrong, if I could afford a Z06 I'd get one, but lets not compare apples to oranges here. If you mean the speed mods would cost less, I can see your point but initial cost is a different story. BTW have you ever paid for service on a Corvette? It's not exactly Mustang cheap if you know what I mean.
How much was that Z06? 50K+? You can get a SupraTT for 20-28K! Alot cheaper? Don't get me wrong, if I could afford a Z06 I'd get one, but lets not compare apples to oranges here. If you mean the speed mods would cost less, I can see your point but initial cost is a different story. BTW have you ever paid for service on a Corvette? It's not exactly Mustang cheap if you know what I mean.
Look at the NEWEST supra TT you can buy. I find them for about 35k+
Z06 I find for about 47k+
But when it comes to the High dollar sports cars they are in the same class. If the supra was still being made it would be just as much as a Z06.
I see your point about initial cost but again the class of car is what is being compared.
02-19-2002, 10:27 AM
#17
Originally posted by Miguel97GLE
How much was that Z06? 50K+? You can get a SupraTT for 20-28K! Alot cheaper? Don't get me wrong, if I could afford a Z06 I'd get one, but lets not compare apples to oranges here. If you mean the speed mods would cost less, I can see your point but initial cost is a different story. BTW have you ever paid for service on a Corvette? It's not exactly Mustang cheap if you know what I mean.
How much was that Z06? 50K+? You can get a SupraTT for 20-28K! Alot cheaper? Don't get me wrong, if I could afford a Z06 I'd get one, but lets not compare apples to oranges here. If you mean the speed mods would cost less, I can see your point but initial cost is a different story. BTW have you ever paid for service on a Corvette? It's not exactly Mustang cheap if you know what I mean.
02-19-2002, 10:31 AM
#18
Originally posted by SprintMax
ok now we are comparing old cars to new cars.. you can't get a 98 Supra for under 35k .. and thats a 4 year old car.. if we are comparing old cars.. lets get an old mustang for $2000 and make it run 9's for only $3000 more..
ok now we are comparing old cars to new cars.. you can't get a 98 Supra for under 35k .. and thats a 4 year old car.. if we are comparing old cars.. lets get an old mustang for $2000 and make it run 9's for only $3000 more..
02-19-2002, 10:50 AM
#19
that 9.9 second Z06 has A LOT more than just a 135 shot of NOS....for starters it's bored out to 422 cubic inches...and has internal work done....not exactly CHEAP....I'm willing to bet that DOLLAR for DOLLAR (including buying the car)...a Supra can be just as fast if not faster than a Z06....
02-19-2002, 10:51 AM
#20
Originally posted by SprintMax
if thats SW .. then its a 150 shot..
http://cad.mdsog.net/movies/supra/SW...44%5b1%5d.mpeg
if thats SW .. then its a 150 shot..
http://cad.mdsog.net/movies/supra/SW...44%5b1%5d.mpeg
02-19-2002, 10:56 AM
#22
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
that 9.9 second Z06 has A LOT more than just a 135 shot of NOS....for starters it's bored out to 422 cubic inches...and has internal work done....not exactly CHEAP....I'm willing to bet that DOLLAR for DOLLAR (including buying the car)...a Supra can be just as fast if not faster than a Z06....
that 9.9 second Z06 has A LOT more than just a 135 shot of NOS....for starters it's bored out to 422 cubic inches...and has internal work done....not exactly CHEAP....I'm willing to bet that DOLLAR for DOLLAR (including buying the car)...a Supra can be just as fast if not faster than a Z06....
you do the math..
- Item Cost TOTALS
- Shortblock/BPU upgrades
- Shortblock 1800.00
- new 590.00
- oil pump 194.00
- water pump 114.00
- head gasket kit 323.00
- crank pulley 274.00
- timing belt 36.00
- accesory belt 51.00
- heads 1000.00
- port heads 350.00
- Greddy Power Extreme 700.00
- Greddy BCC 80.00
- Greddy Profec B 336.00
- EGT Guage 190.00
- Boost Guage 150.00
- cam gears 250.00
- timer 100.00
- downpipe 300.00
- Ignition 350.00
- bov 160.00 $7,348.00
Turbo/Fuel System/ECU upgrade
- Item Cost TOTALS
- Turbo/Housing 7000.00
- VPC 920.00
- GCC 411.00
- SMIC 700.00
- Gforce 1200.00
- Fuel System 2500.00
- labor 4295.00 $17,026.00
- remove trans 300.00
- ship trans 450.00
- battery 140.00
- labor 475.00
- fmic 1000.00
- fmic pipe 250.00
- bov 160.00
- clamps 180.00
- labor 425.00 6025.00
ENGINE
- Item Cost TOTALS
- rods 1900.00
- pistons 1150.00
- rings 224.00
- pins 202.00
- gasket 323.00
- shims for valves 264.00
- bearing rod 230.00
- bearing crank 254.00
- trust bearing 42.00
- ring clips 44.00
- head bolts 110.00
- rod bolts 90.00
- main bolts 90.00
- freeze plugs 50.00
- cams 900.00
- cam gears 450.00
- disassmeble engien 225.00
- remove freeze plugs 40.00
- bore bloke 300.00
- deck block 125.00
- deck head 125.00
- polish crank 100.00
- balance crank 100.00
- install rings 80.00
- install pistons/rods 85.00
- check bearing clearance 75.00
- install shims 225.00
- pressure test heads 80.00
- clean block 75.00
- clean head 50.00
- cleann oil pump 65.00
- clean oil pans 65.00
- clean other parts 90.00
- LABOR 2500.00 10728.00
- repair turbo 1150.00
- install turbo 300.00 1450.00
02-19-2002, 11:45 AM
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I agree with sprint and all his thoughts in this thread. People try so hard to believe that the supra is something that it is not. If anybody has seen the video clip where tiff reviews the NSX... it starts with a supra and tiff talking about how in the world of exotic sports cars its not really anything special. Don't get me wrong, the supra is one of the best looking cars and because of that people will spend ANYTHING to make them fast. Its just not good enough at anything to really be a supercar.
02-19-2002, 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
I love supra's.. but the maxima is God's Charriot
I love supra's.. but the maxima is God's Charriot
02-19-2002, 12:26 PM
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Why the Supra needs a new shortblock or headgasket kit (when its rated to 1000hp) to run sub 10s is beyond me.
The reason the Supra is so highly regarded is because of its unique looks, relatively low cost compared to other "exotic" cars and because it can easily be modded well into the 500 hp range on stock internals for relatively modest cost.
Who the hell cares about running 9s anyway.
The reason the Supra is so highly regarded is because of its unique looks, relatively low cost compared to other "exotic" cars and because it can easily be modded well into the 500 hp range on stock internals for relatively modest cost.
Who the hell cares about running 9s anyway.
02-19-2002, 02:48 PM
#28
Originally posted by SprintMax
you know how much it cost to make a supraTT run 9's? about $25 g's
you do the math..
Turbo/Fuel System/ECU upgrade
ENGINE
you know how much it cost to make a supraTT run 9's? about $25 g's
you do the math..
- Item Cost TOTALS
- Shortblock/BPU upgrades
- Shortblock 1800.00
- new 590.00
- oil pump 194.00
- water pump 114.00
- head gasket kit 323.00
- crank pulley 274.00
- timing belt 36.00
- accesory belt 51.00
- heads 1000.00
- port heads 350.00
- Greddy Power Extreme 700.00
- Greddy BCC 80.00
- Greddy Profec B 336.00
- EGT Guage 190.00
- Boost Guage 150.00
- cam gears 250.00
- timer 100.00
- downpipe 300.00
- Ignition 350.00
- bov 160.00 $7,348.00
Turbo/Fuel System/ECU upgrade
- Item Cost TOTALS
- Turbo/Housing 7000.00
- VPC 920.00
- GCC 411.00
- SMIC 700.00
- Gforce 1200.00
- Fuel System 2500.00
- labor 4295.00 $17,026.00
- remove trans 300.00
- ship trans 450.00
- battery 140.00
- labor 475.00
- fmic 1000.00
- fmic pipe 250.00
- bov 160.00
- clamps 180.00
- labor 425.00 6025.00
ENGINE
- Item Cost TOTALS
- rods 1900.00
- pistons 1150.00
- rings 224.00
- pins 202.00
- gasket 323.00
- shims for valves 264.00
- bearing rod 230.00
- bearing crank 254.00
- trust bearing 42.00
- ring clips 44.00
- head bolts 110.00
- rod bolts 90.00
- main bolts 90.00
- freeze plugs 50.00
- cams 900.00
- cam gears 450.00
- disassmeble engien 225.00
- remove freeze plugs 40.00
- bore bloke 300.00
- deck block 125.00
- deck head 125.00
- polish crank 100.00
- balance crank 100.00
- install rings 80.00
- install pistons/rods 85.00
- check bearing clearance 75.00
- install shims 225.00
- pressure test heads 80.00
- clean block 75.00
- clean head 50.00
- cleann oil pump 65.00
- clean oil pans 65.00
- clean other parts 90.00
- LABOR 2500.00 10728.00
- repair turbo 1150.00
- install turbo 300.00 1450.00
you don't need internal work on a supra to run 9's the one on the front page of turboimports.com is stock internals and it runs 9's
02-19-2002, 03:19 PM
#29
Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
you don't need internal work on a supra to run 9's the one on the front page of turboimports.com is stock internals and it runs 9's
you don't need internal work on a supra to run 9's the one on the front page of turboimports.com is stock internals and it runs 9's
02-19-2002, 04:19 PM
#30
Originally posted by dmbmaxima88
you don't need internal work on a supra to run 9's the one on the front page of turboimports.com is stock internals and it runs 9's
you don't need internal work on a supra to run 9's the one on the front page of turboimports.com is stock internals and it runs 9's
02-19-2002, 04:21 PM
#31
by that token you could say it cost Jamie $375 (price of a NOS kit) to run 12's in a maxima... but eventually something blew 
imagine if it was a 2k2 Z06 with 405 hp
it would be running 8's
imagine if it was a 2k2 Z06 with 405 hp
it would be running 8's
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
I agree....plus I've just been doing a little research....and that corvette that you showed the video of was NOT A Z06....and it had over 30 grand in work done on it, INCLUDING a 135 shot of NOS....and that is the FASTEST street legal vette without a motor swap...compare that to SW's 9 second supra with just of 15 grand of work....and it seems to me that the supra EASILY comes out on top...
I agree....plus I've just been doing a little research....and that corvette that you showed the video of was NOT A Z06....and it had over 30 grand in work done on it, INCLUDING a 135 shot of NOS....and that is the FASTEST street legal vette without a motor swap...compare that to SW's 9 second supra with just of 15 grand of work....and it seems to me that the supra EASILY comes out on top...
02-19-2002, 04:30 PM
#32
Originally posted by SprintMax
by that token you could say it cost Jamie $375 (price of a NOS kit) to run 12's in a maxima... but eventually something blew
imagine if it was a 2k2 Z06 with 405 hp
it would be running 8's
by that token you could say it cost Jamie $375 (price of a NOS kit) to run 12's in a maxima... but eventually something blew
imagine if it was a 2k2 Z06 with 405 hp
it would be running 8's
Too bad the LS6 has literally NO aftermarket for it yet aside from a lingenfelter TT kit which ranges from 40 to 50G's
I agree that if and when other companies start making parts for the LS6 the thing will be a MONSTER...
02-19-2002, 05:06 PM
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax
he's talking about SW's supra....
Too bad the LS6 has literally NO aftermarket for it yet aside from a lingenfelter TT kit which ranges from 40 to 50G's
I agree that if and when other companies start making parts for the LS6 the thing will be a MONSTER...
he's talking about SW's supra....
Too bad the LS6 has literally NO aftermarket for it yet aside from a lingenfelter TT kit which ranges from 40 to 50G's
I agree that if and when other companies start making parts for the LS6 the thing will be a MONSTER...
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