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Old Mar 2, 2002 | 10:14 PM
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Can someone help I think I got jerked.....


Can someone please help Me I think I got played... I just bought a 2002 Maxima SE 6spd and I think the dealer just beat me... Check it out....

While at the dealer I test drove a Max 2002 se 6spd which was equiped with the Helical Limited Slip Differential.., I know it had this cause my sales guy infomed that the car was equiped with it.

I under stand that this feature is suppose to keep the car from skiddig out by equaling power to wheels or somthing like that, My friend told me it is ideal for racing which I do a lot of.

Well the car I test drove felt so smooth in take offs and accelerations, also the steering felt much more steardy and didn't shake or wobble one bit, it was nice and tight. The over all feeling was very satisfiying.

I didn't get this one cause it wasen't eqiped with a feature I wanted.

So the car I acctually took home feels completly diffrent. The steering is very loose and the accelertion does not feel quit as smooth as the one I test drove, very dissapointing.

Can you guys tell me How can i check if my car is equip with this option and why is it really so good, I do know that I want it but, I am little upset because I belive I payed for this option on my car and Have no clue if I really have it.... Also I don't wanna go yelling at my sales guy until I know the facts and whats up.

I really wanna thank in advance to anyone who can let me know what the deal is.

I feel very fustrated As I can't even get in touch with my sales guy till Tuesday and it eating me up not knowing, I don't wanna ask anyone else there cause I feel they are full of it.

Peace guys sorry for the long post.
Old Mar 2, 2002 | 10:20 PM
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Do you have aluminum pedals? If you do, you should be ok.
Old Mar 2, 2002 | 10:27 PM
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Do you have aluminum pedals? If you do, you should be ok.
Thanks man.... Ahhhh Naa I don't so I guess this means I don't have it... Why did these guys Jerk me like this They hide som much from you if you don't ask... Is there a way I can look under the front to identify this...??? I don't wanna yell at my sales man but i payed for that i gotta know if it is there...
Old Mar 2, 2002 | 10:47 PM
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:mad Thanks man.... Ahhhh Naa I don't so I guess this means I don't have it... Why did these guys Jerk me like this They hide som much from you if you don't ask... Is there a way I can look under the front to identify this...??? I don't wanna yell at my sales man but i payed for that i gotta know if it is there... :
Does your window sticker say anything about being equiped with the HLSD option? The car either have the option or not. The dealer does not install it for you. The only way to check is to take your transmission apart and see if it has a HLSD. But if it is not on the window sticker then you don't have it.
Old Mar 2, 2002 | 10:58 PM
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ahhh I will check that out I am pretty sure I don't have it now.., can you tell me why this feature is so good Do I really need it..?? Thanks alot man.. wait till I talk to my sales man....
Old Mar 2, 2002 | 11:05 PM
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ahhh I will check that out I am pretty sure I don't have it now.., can you tell me why this feature is so good Do I really need it..?? Thanks alot man.. wait till I talk to my sales man....
Our cars are basically 1 wheel drive when we step on the gas. With limited slip differentials, it keeps both tires spinning. That's the best I can do right now It's a traction thing.
Old Mar 2, 2002 | 11:32 PM
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Our cars are basically 1 wheel drive when we step on the gas. With limited slip differentials, it keeps both tires spinning. That's the best I can do right now It's a traction thing.

Thanks man I really appreciate all the help, I don't mean to keep bugging you, I am just little upset at my dealship and seeking some info. But you helped me a bunch.
Old Mar 3, 2002 | 06:47 AM
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If it's on the window sticker you have it, if it isn't - you don't. Sounds like there's more difference than just the HLSD. Check your tire pressures.
Old Mar 3, 2002 | 06:54 AM
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I have a 2001 Black on black SE, my dad has a 2001 Black on Grey SE, same features and everything. BUT My wheel is ALOT more lose while driving, my car takes off quicker and my dad's car has better breaks. I barley have to touch his to stop, mine, I really have to go far down with. We asked Nissan and they said there is nothing wrong with both cars, just that they are two different cars. While my car was in the shop we rented a 2000 GXE and both thought that the GXE had better excelleration then both our SEs did! The car you test drove was a differnt car then the actual one you bought, so that might just be your answere there.
Old Mar 3, 2002 | 08:01 AM
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You can test for the presense of a LSD by jacking up the front of the car and turning one wheel. If the opposite wheel turns in opposition, you got a open diffy, if it turns the same way you got a LSD.
Old Mar 3, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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Originally posted by ItalianMax2kSE
While my car was in the shop we rented a 2000 GXE and both thought that the GXE had better excelleration then both our SEs did!

GXE's should be lighter.....

Also,

Are you sure you made it painfully obvious that you wanted HLSD on your car, or did you kinda say you wanted it. It sounds like you might be kinda out of luck. You didn't pay for the option, am i right? I don't you can just return it and say that there was a mixup when ordering the car. You should also make sure that everything is OK before signing the papers, because once you take the car off the lot, the car is yours.
Old Mar 3, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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we had a similar problem concering my 97 GLE...back in 97, when we bought it, my dad specifically asked if the car had ABS, which the salesman replied that it did...unfortunately, my dad took that for granted and didn't examine the window sticker too closely...well, 3 years later, when my mom slammed on the brakes, and the car started to slide, we took it to the dealership to see if something was wrong, and that's when we were told the car didn't have the ABS option...let's just say my dad wasn't too pleased, but there wasn't much we could do, other than not buying from that dealership again, we went to a different dealership for our 4th nissan...but before that, we had bought 3 nissans from the previous dealer, and the max was the only problem we had with them, but my dad still refused to go back, and so we bought our 4th nissan last month from a different dealer...anyways, i don't think there is too much that can be done now since once it's off the lot and you signed for it...it's yours...sorry
Old Mar 3, 2002 | 04:20 PM
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spare tire may tell you

On my 98 SE (and this might have absolutely *nothing* to do with your situation), the spare tire is a different size for cars with the LSD. If you have an LSD, the spare is a little larger (90 series rather than 70, I think) because the LSD will get confused and overheat if a spare that is smaller than a regular tire is put on the front, thereby making each of the front tires turn at a different rate.

You might want to check the manual, see if it says anything about this, and if so, check your spare...
Old Mar 4, 2002 | 07:59 AM
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Forget checking the spare or jacking the car up ... as a couple other have said, just look at the window sticker. The LSD is a $400 option so if it's not listed on there then your car doesn't have it. The salesguy may have not known that it was a really important option for you, or else he may have just forgotten to check for that option on the new car (as you yourself did). The #1 most fundamental rule of buying a car is to double-check everything! I know it can be hard to remember everything when you're in the process, and I have been let down a couple of times as hard as I try to double-check everything. Hell, I got taken for a 39-month lease on my '96 Altima when I never talked to the salesguy about anything other than a 36-month lease. But I signed the lease without reading it carefully enough, so my only recourse by the time I noticed it (at about month 35 ) was to not go back to that dealership. Hell, by that time the people I bought the car from didn't even work there anymore.

If it's really important to you to have the HLSD, go back and complain. You haven't had the car that long, and most states give you a 3-day Right of Recession during which you're allowed the return the car for a full refund (with a mileage deduction) if you're unsatisfied with the dealings that took place or the car's quality.

If it's been more than three days, you're probably out of luck but you might be able to argue that you were waiting for your salesperson to be back to work.

LSD is mostly useful on slick surfaces, or powering out of a corner where one wheel has more traction than the other. In a straight line on a dry, consistent surface, you probably won't miss it much.
Old Mar 5, 2002 | 03:38 PM
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Ahhhh I see Thanks for the help all... But Can anyone answer this As I do A lot of racing... Wouldn't HLSD be ideal for racing and since I don't have is there a way I can Add it to my Max..??
Old Mar 18, 2002 | 01:53 AM
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Originally posted by Max2002
Ahhhh I see Thanks for the help all... But Can anyone answer this As I do A lot of racing... Wouldn't HLSD be ideal for racing and since I don't have is there a way I can Add it to my Max..??
yeah it can be added. forgot where i saw it, but it was about $1700 for the parts alone. i assume these were better than factory ones, but at $400 factory installed, factory is a bargain.
Old Mar 18, 2002 | 08:45 PM
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yeah it can be added. forgot where i saw it, but it was about $1700 for the parts alone. i assume these were better than factory ones, but at $400 factory installed, factory is a bargain.

Thanks alot.... Good advice... do you know where you saw that For sale..?? These guys got some bad a$$ cars I gotta get up there with them.. also I hope I can win some cars shows...
Old Mar 18, 2002 | 10:09 PM
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the window sticker isnt necessarily the answer. a few guys here had their HLSD 6 speeds delivered but it didnt list it on the window sticker. and as far as jacking the car up and spinning the tires....this came up in a thread a few weeks ago and supposedly that wont tell you jack.

just to make sure ...you're pedals dont look like this do they?


if they do then you have HLSD.

i think the only way you can truely find out for sure is to find out the HLSD code in the VIN#. ask an impartial dealership if they have a key to decode the VIN#s and see if your car has HLSD.
Old Mar 18, 2002 | 11:25 PM
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Thanks alot.... Good advice... do you know where you saw that For sale..?? These guys got some bad a$$ cars I gotta get up there with them.. also I hope I can win some cars shows...
Think it was Quaife.
http://www.quaifeamerica.com/




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