forgot to mention

that $145 is NZ... = $62.35 USD for the lower intake manifold..

I'm confused, Cheston.

If I get the Manifold, and it is round on the bottom, then it still won't line up with the Engine Block, RIGHT?

So either way I'm screwed. Or am I? What to I need to ask rocky to get this going again?

By the way, I asked him about the JDM Spec, and he said "Yes, all the ones I am getting are off the japanese Imports, the NZ Cars don't have VI"

So at least we got that confirmed.

It's still gonna cost less than the ME one if we do it this way, and it is doable.

IanS

Now if we were to switch the lower manifold to the round ones, wouldn't that restrict airflow giving us less power since the ovals allow for more air to pass?

well, the 65 for the lower intake is really nothing huge.

but, if its for a 3.0 like he says .. hmmm.. we'll need to dyno that sucker to make sure it produces similar gains, with the circular lower manifold.

It may work, but...
 

Will the gains with the smaller circular opening be as good as the collector with the oval openings? Be sure to get the gasket as well.

Guys, from the pictures I've seen, the overall cross-sectional area of the round runners is much smaller than the oval runners. This implies the round-runner manifold is intended for a smaller engine than the 3.0 (2.0? 2.5?).

The round-runner variable manifold will definitely result in a power loss over the oval-runner variable manifold. In fact, there may even be a power loss over the US non-variable manifold. I would not even think about trying out that unit.

Yep, I wouldn't touch it. And this might mean we are back to square one :bawling:

just thinking out loud (out typing??) here, but does anyone have any connections with the Nissan USA, the Japanese factory or maybe NISMO?? seems to me if enough interest was generated, these intakes/collectors could be made available to us (US). of course, we still need to see how they will work on a NA VQ.

I'm still looking for it.
 

Well, because of the New Zealand bomb I trying the Middle East to see if I can find it. I'm going to try to also get the part number for the piece and see if my local dealer can get it. But I will keep everyone posted on my search.

This sucks. Oh, well you lose some and you win some.

The guy in NZ swears up and down that these pipes are the pipes from a 3.0L in New Zealand (JDM Spec)

1)Why would Nissan go through all the trouble to design different pipes for the same engine in two parts of the world that supposedly work the same?

2)The ME 2.5L Controller has 35U stamped on it. So does the NZ "3.0L", from what the source said.

This makes no sense.

I have sent an E-Mail of my concerns to the NZ source. He is going to be sending me measurments of the pipes. Does anyone here have the runner measurements from a US version to compare with?

Thanks,
IanS

Anyone?

Bueller?

Whenever somebody figures this out, I'm in.

By the way, nice wheels!
:D

Update:

Doesn't look good.

-----Original Message-----
From: Rockie [mailto:triple_s@clear.net.nz]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:58 AM
To: Ian Sweeney
Subject: Re: Collector

PartsCo.Com
236 Welcome Bay Rd
Welcome Bay
Tauranga
New Zealand
PH (07) 544 8256
Fax (07) 544 8257
E-mail Rockie@PartsCo.Com
Web Site www.PartsCo.Com

Ian

Hi, after sleeping on it I tend to agree with you.
I am asking around with different suppliers to see if there is a 38U Collector in the country.

I will let you know if I can find one.

Regards
Rockie Ellmers

im emailing the factory parts distributor in some country in the Middle East... so. shiiiiit. NZ bust.

anyone wanna try to local parts dealer from UK?

--cheston

From what I've heard, Cheston, the UK version is not even close to usable.

Rocky's still looking...I'm hoping against hope.

IanS

Intial research into Japan was a no go. If you can confirm it's indeed offered in Japan models, let me know

Cheston
 

Yep, I'm with you I've spent like my whole morning searching and sending things to the ME to see what is going on, so I've emailed like 20-30 different people over there. But, I contacted UK also no word back yet but there is also a big time difference!!! Hopefully I will have some luck but I'll keep you guys posted. But I think Ian is right. UK I think also has the 2.5L engine that NZ had. But, it doesn't hurt to ask.

All the ones in New Zealand are from Japanese cars exported to NZ.

Stock in NZ, they don't have the VI.

So if Japan doesn't have any for the 3.0L, NZ Definately doesn't.

Sound like this may be an ONLY ME thing.

This sucks. I was so psyched.

IanS

Interesting.

In Nissan's annual reports (1996-1999), they mention that the Middle East and Africa are one sales region.

I'm going to be checking into South Africa next.

I've got the number for Nissan South Africa....I'll try giving them a call when I can.

Or if someone else wants to flip the bill for a call to SA, or can get the call free, the number is 11783-44074408

Ask for the "VQ30DE Variable induction Controller" Ask for the part number.

Also ask for numbers to dealerships in SA. Then call the dealerships and get a price, and then ask for numbers to junk yards they deal with.

If noone else has done this by later tonight, I will.

IanS

wow this is getting interesting.

thanks to ALL of those who are putting the time and effort into this, I hope we all get rewarded with VI being available...!!

South Africa is GMT, which means they are +8 hours to Seattle.

So I'm going to have to call early in the morning to catch anyone.

Anyone else working on this, or just me?

IanS

With you in spirit but can't do much to help yet. I've got pull with Mazda but not Nissan.

Keep trying - we'll figure it out :king:

Anyone know ifthis intake is in Saudi Arabia?

I'm sure it is.

I've got a butload of phone numbers for Auto Parts in Saudi.

Apparently, there's a huge market for Engine Parts there.

IanS

OK!

I just sent out 75+ E-Mails around the world.

Unfortunately, everywhere is sleeping right now :D

I hope you people appreciate this...I've got a headache!

:bonk:

Need some technical advice:

i heard somewhere that the UK 4th Gens have the VI, but it doesn't work.

Is this true?

Why is it true?

IanS

The UK 4th gen maxima had 2 available engines, the VQ20DE and the VQ30DE. The VQ30DE only came with an automatic. The performance specs of the UK VQ30DE are kinda slow, but that could be for 2 reasons;

a) It's an automatic only
b) Like the 5th gen, the VQ30DE with VI may produce peak power past the shift point of the auto, further hampering performance.

DW

I'm right there with you.
 

I've spent the last two nights on the internet searching for dealerships/parts distributors/etc. trying to find someone with some info. I'm e-mailing anybody that might have even the slightest bit of help. We gotta just keep plugging away. Something will happen. It has to.

Travis, let me know what you find out because I'll order one with you if you find them somewhere.


Dave

Does anyone have a picture of the 38U?
 

Could you post it? I want to include it when I e-mail people so I know they know what I'm talking about.

Same here, I want one bad! :)

Everyone will know.
 

Any sources found will be posted here. This is for the good of all breathing impaired 4th gen maxima's. :D

Just an update...
 

I've been working the phones calling the UK. I just spoke to a couple of people working at Nissan dealerships and they are willing to help. I just have to call them back on Monday since its past their closing time.

Re: Does anyone have a picture of the 38U?
 

Note: This pic is NOT mine (I'm not taking credit for it). I saved it awhile ago. I circled the "38U" for clarification purposes.

http://laygeez.home.mindspring.com/VI38u.jpg

Has anyone tried Russia or any of the former USSR countries? I read the specs on their VQ30 and it is listed at 220hp. Perhaps they have the 38U as well?

I have been tryiong to send e-mails all over the place looking for this but so far not much. If I get anything I will let you know.

SuDZ

I've sent out 112 E-Mails/Forms now.

Not one person has responded.

%#%@$#@!!!

I'm just hoping Rocky comes through. He says he expects not to hear anything back until Monday morning (Sunday US time)

IanS

I know how you feel.
 

I can't remember how many, but I thought it would surely be enough to find something. Maybe tomorrow, a flood of e-mails with all kinds of sources.:rolleyes: I can always hope.:)

I got a reply from the ME it'll take about another day to check on prices.

I really need a figure of about how many people are interested. I gave them a prelim number of 10-20 orders.

I'm in, and would like to be on the top of the list :D

Check your E-Mail.

IanS

was the part # I emailed you the right one?