ejj

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Took the new car to NYIRP for the first time today. It was cold out. Like 45 degrees all day. Pretty much too cold. Traction was hard to come by.

This was my first time out with drag radials, and while they did help, they didn't quite do the job I was hoping. My best 60' was a 2.174, which is good, but not great. Here's my best time slip:

RT: 0.673
60': 2.198
330': 6.076
1/8: 9.341
MPH: 75.35
1000': 12.142
1/4: 14.522
MPH: 94.47

Not bad, but not great. My car seemed pretty weak up top, and I have no idea why. I had stock heat range plugs in, so that's no it. I ran mostly 14.7's and 14.6's for most of the day. A few 14.8's and 14.9's when I got there 'cause I had too much gas. There weren't many fast imports there. I was the fastest by far (Sad) and the next closest was a Celica GT-S that was running 14.9's and some 14.8's.

I weighed the car, 3,080 pounds without me in it. That's with a full interior and no spare.

Here are some pics and videos taken by my friend who's NA Z wasn't out for the season yet:

In staging lane
Staging
Staging
14.77
Pre-burnout
Staged
Pre Burnout VS TransAm
Red Light VS TransAm
14.75 VS TransAm

Movies:
Maxima (Me)
Inside VS. Talon
Inside VS. TransAm -- I missed 4th gear. Careful, foul language used because of it!
VS. Truck

Next time I go to the track, I don't think I'll be NA!!

Nealoc187

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Hey, better times than I pulled last weekend. My best was a 14.62 @ 94.something... so dismal I don't even remember my entire trap speed... I only had one single 60' time in the 2.2s all day, a 2.296. All the rest were 2.30-2.36... this track was a joke.

You did well against that trans am though... I'd like for a few of those guys who are saying "a maxima cant hang with an LT-1" to see that video. Do you happen to know what transmission he had, or if he had mods or not?

ejj

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Ha, I knew that would come up. That was a friend of mine who "borrowed" his mom's stock 94 TransAm to take it to the track.

He was running 14.3-14.7's all day. In the video I was pretty much with him until I missed 4th.

It had an auto transmission, and in the pic above where I beat him bad, he had left the transmission out of performance mode. Big difference.

BriGuyMax

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in that last picture of you vs. the Trans Am...he ran 15.5@92 and you ran 14.7@94.....what happened???

ejj

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deezo

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The Upstate NY boys can run. I'm surprised your running with that Trans Am so closely.

Cumalot

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*sigh* too bad the both of us are automagics.

Dave B

Very nice runs. I wouldn't be too dissappointed with those times at all!!! Don't forget that your SE is probably a little heavier and the drag radials are a little shorter which will take away a little topend.

It's really frustrating for me to read about all you guys hitting 14.4-14.5s@93-94mph when I'm consistently hitting 96mph+ all the while struggling to hit 14.6s with high 2.27-2.30 60 foots However, I just mounted a set of Sumitiom HTR Zs 225/50s in place of my Yokohama Avid V4s 215/55. I can't believe how hard my car hooks up now. I wind it up to 2800rpm slip the clutch quickly, get a slight chirp, and she's gone I use to spin thru most of 1st with a launch like this. I was naughty last weekend and did some 0-60 runs against my buddies 92 5.0 (basic mods, 14.7 best). He use to out launch me and get at least a car lentgh off the line. This time we were neck and neck or even me ahead everytime (5 runs). I hope I can hook up at the track as well as I can on the street. These tires may be my key to getting 14.5s.

Dave

deezo

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We're just in a different class, thats all.

ejj

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Just to add...

Highlights of the day included mostly american muscle, but the best was a Chevy Beretta!

Yes, this Beretta had not one, but two 3.8L V6's in it. They may have been supercharged, but I couldn't tell. AWD, two motors, 11 seconds. He didn't do a burn out, and the guys in the tower were saying, "If you haven't seen this car before, you're in for quite a treat". I couldn't imagine what they were talking about.

Just insane!

ejj

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Yeah, traction was hard to come by. I was expecting 2.0 60's with the DR's, but the weather was too cold and the track was too slick. They said that they scraped 7 barrels of rubber of the track this off season, so it was bear pavement. A nice small coat of rubber would have been nice.

DiscoGsus

I saw a Black WRX sitting on the grass in one of your pics...was he scared to come play?

ejj

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Yup, he was just watching. Dunno why.

There was a AWD Turbo Talon, but it was really slow. 16s+. I thought they were faster. An eclipse GSX, mid 15's, 16s+ NA Z, 17s+ NA RX-7 and that celica was high 14's all day. Other than that it was mostly 16s+ Honda's.

I guess there were faster cars at the track on Saturday. theblue was there, and I know of at least one 12s DSM that was there on Saturday.

Nealoc187

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I didnt know you were running DRs and I was confused as to why you were so disappointed with your 2.1 60' times. Now I know.

ejj

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Yeah. I used stock tires last year, and they're shot. So instead of buying new stock tires to race on, I decided to go with the DR's. I think they'll do better when the track is a little warmer.

It was about 20 degrees warmer on Saturday, and theblue said the he got a 1.9 60' with them. That's what I need! That would take me down to a 14.3 at least!

I did a lot of fiddling with tire pressure, and I found that I got my best time with 28psi. I think because the track was so cold, the lower pressure wasn't doing me any good off the line, and was hurting me up top. Raising the pressure didn't really affect my 60's at all, and raised my trap speeds 1.5 to 2 MPH.

nismo2020

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i like your set up. very good times all around. w/nos you should be deep in the 13s. when you plan on dropping the juice in?

ejj

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Thanks. I was hoping to get the NOS in this week, but it doesn't look like weather is going to play nice. I can't do it on the weekends, because they are consumed with house shopping right now, and to top it all off, I'm still waiting for some parts (Jets and a window switch) to arrive.

It will be in soon enough though.

Nealoc187

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What did he run with a 1.9 60'?

ejj

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Don't know. He said his best of the day was in the 14.5's. I guess he only got 4 runs in because of the weather (rain). I got 19 in.

He had better temps, but much higher humidity.

Nealoc187

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Wow, that sucks to add drag radials and run .2-.3 seconds WORSE than your best time. I hate going to the track and not setting a new personal best or at least coming fairly close.

ejj

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Maybe he left his interior in this time.

Cumalot

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Did you go through the water box and then do a burn out? I heard sometimes it's to go around the water box, and maybe do a small burn out to get the rocks and whatever else off.

ejj

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Sometimes. When I had been sitting for a long time I did a substantial burnout to get the tire temps up. But when the tires were already warm I just spun them a bit.

Nealoc187

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Are you supposed to do a burnout with DRs?

ejj

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Yeah. You want them nice and hot so they can do their job. A cold drag radial is a bad drag radial.

MardiGrasMax

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Its been my experiance that water is bad for treaded tires, even DR's. I get better results with a little 1 second dry scratch than with a longer wet or dry burn out. You would have to do a major burn out to get all the water out of the tread, and at that point the DR's are over heated. The tire pressure thing is wierd too, I get my best results with ~26 psi warm. I tried all the way down to 18psi and got crappy 60's. Perhaps DR's are more likley to cup under at low pressures, especially under the heavy weight of a Maxima. But launching pad condition is a MAJOR factor here. When I did my 13.0 run with a 2.0 60' on my street tires the track was freshly VHT'd and I was like the 10th car to run down it that day.

Cumalot

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Yup, tire pressure is weird too. What is the best pressure for street tires? I don't think you can go too low on street tires. Next time I'll try 25psi for the front and leave the rear at 35psi.

ejj

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What's that?

I guess I should clarify some. I don't got through the water box, because my track doesn't use it. They just spary the burnout pad with a little bit of water to help you break the tires loose. There are water boxes further back, but I've never seen them used.

MardiGrasMax

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VHT is a rubber softener, they spray it on the old rubber on the track to make it stickey.

I'm sure you tried with out the water, but if you didnt, give it a few tries and see if it helps you.

ejj

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Cool, I didn't know that.

I did try both, and I found that my better times came more as a function of temperature...if the tires were warm they didn't seem to care if I did the burnout in the water or dry.

I think it was a bad day to judge. The temps being so cold aren't normal. I think they will be easier to use once steady 60 degree temps hit around.

The weather up here sucks. In Rochester, NY we hit 90 last week, and today its snowing. All the damn changes have made me sick.

kit99bar

It's odd when you say it was TOO cold

I'd love to go on a cold track

The track that Dave and I go to closes if it's too cold.

kit99bar

that celica guy posted about it too

his best was a 14.7@94 with a 2.26 60ft
if his 130 torque can bust a 2.26 60ft then you can do better than a 2.1 eheh

http://www.newcelica.org/forums/show...908#post202908

Dave B

That's by far the most frustrating thing about KCIR and Heartland Park. If it's not 45 degrees AND sunny, there is NO racing. What kind of crap is that? Most of the Northeast tracks will open if it's above 35 degrees.


Dave

ejj

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Yeah, I saw him there, but we didn't get to race. It would have been fun. Like I said, I was running 14.5 to 14.8's all day, so it would have been close.

And those 60' times show exactly what I mean. I should (when its a little warmer) be able to get better 60' times.

I'm waiting for Summer nights when the track is warm from the day, and the air is cool...60 or less. That will be prefect!

meccanoble

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I need cable internet...it was so cool watching all your movies and they were downloading in seconds...hell, while i was playing they were downloading and downloading a little faster than i was playing....had no problems with any of them, but at home it's different story...

anyway, u ran a 14.55 but every car was smoking u...what's up wit that? the white car and the truck were killers...did they have some extra stuff on them or were they just stock because sounds like u did a lot to your car running 14.55 and my little stock auto (15.5 at best) will get creamed if i ever touch those race ways...

Serika

Hey man, thanks for mentioning me!
I doubt you remember cuz we both ran so many times, but we actually did race once. It was a good race too...

Me: 14.752@94.89
You: 14.666@93.67

That was run #16 for me (of 22). I wanted to race more of the imports there, but my number was earlier than most of the UBRF guys. Glad I got to run ya tho; good race.

ejj

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Really, I don't remember that. I remember the 14.666 run, but I totally forgot that it was against you. Cool!

I had the same number problem...I think we we're in the same group of 50...there were like 3 imports and 47 domestic. I lost most of my races because of that.

Are you going to be going to the Wednesday night Import Bracket Racing ever?

ejj

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Um, I was racing fast cars. The two vids from outside the car...the first was against some domestic muscle car, but I don't remember what it was. An Impala maybe? It ran LOW 14's all day. A bit out of my league. I beat the truck by over a second, so I don't know what you're talking about. And the fact that I could hang with the trans-am is good enough for me. Those are V8 monsters.

If you ever go to the track, don't think you're the ****, because you'll loose to about 75% to 90% of the domestics that you line up against. Most of them are very capable of running 13's or lower.

JAIMECBR900

What's up with our times then? It must be the altitude or something because a N/A 5 spd deep in the 14's. What's up with that? I know your car is not slow and our night you had a 15.1. I don't get it, I feel really slow considering the mods and only hitting 14.4@97 mph. Why is that? I'm confused here, I know I didn't cut a good light but geez does it make that much of a difference? Will the new Y make a big difference? I'm feeling a little underpowered now....maybe I need to just live with it.

Serika

When do the Wednesday night Import races start?
I hope to get out there again over the summer, on a nice cool summer night, but when the track is hotter.