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Went to the drag strip last night with my 6 SPEED...
Finally, an answer to one of the hottest questions asked of the last couple of months! Overall, I was very impressed with the results. Only had time to make 1 run for the night, but don't think I could've done much better:

60 ft.: 2.31
1/4 mi: 14.386 @ 97.85mph

My car is BONE stock with 1,950 miles and I had the following:
-spare tire removed
-1/4 tank of gas
-35 psi all around
-about 65 F temperature

I think the time is in line with all the speculation everyone's been doing. And no, I can't yet post the timeslip since I don't have a scanner nor digital camera. Those that don't believe me can just wait until the next person runs similar times and is able to post them.

So what you all think?

 

I believe it....and it looks like the eternal question has finally been answered! now we can await the arrival of a certain CL-s member to this thread...

 

I saw that when he posted it. I believe it. A 260 hp car w/ a 6 speed sure as heck better be able to run a 14.3 if I can run less than a tenth slower with like 50 less hp.

 

Isnt that what Steve ran in his 2K2 6 speed, w/Franken... ? He has 4 doors too !

 

Still has a ways to go to touch Maximus1000's 14.23 @ 99.3 stock too. I don't think either car has shown its true potential times yet though.

 

Yeah, he can't touch me! Just kidding. I think that anyone who thought that a low 14 second time from a stock CL-S 6spd was impossible is now shown to be plain stupid. I think if I were to race that guy at the track, it would be a tossup. I fluctuate (on good days) between a 14.2-14.3. On the bad days (like last time) I nail 14.4s all day. Since he did this stock, I think we all need to take stock (no pun intended) of what that means. They have a header by Comptech that dynos 25whp alone! Combine that with a good intake and competent driver and you have a recipe for CONSISTENT high 13s! Like 'Kloogy' said in another thread.......'the best mod you can invest in is practicing your launch and shifting'. You can buy all the bolt on you want and never hit a 14.5. Practice guys....dont let them show up the society of the 4DSC! *End of rant*

 

ruh roh shaggy!

 

I have a friend with a TL-S 5spd auto, and he got a 14.9 stock. He says that a header will give him 25 HP, and that Comptech header must have been what he was talkin about. I didn't believe him, because he is kind of new to this car stuff, and I thought he was believing a stupid rumor from a HOnda/Acura board. But does a header really give 25FWHP for the TL/CL ?

 

Before everyone goes out saying the CL-S is as fast as a stock max (which I would think it would), take a gander at his 60ft time. That is nothing to be happy with. If he can drop his 60ft time down to at least a 2.1, consider that 14.3 a slow time.

Like Neal said, both cars still aren;t showing what they truely can run stock/modded.

 

isn't his tire pressure pretty high for drag racing? I remeber when i took my sisters accord to the track, ppl told me to put the pressure @ around 20-25psi.

 

We get, what, 12-15 hp from our y-pipes? If there is enough room for improvement, sure, this sounds possible. Or, look at the kind of hp gains people are expecting to see from the ME variable intake on 4th gen cars. About 20 hp there ...

 

Theblue has beaten that time in a 190hp 4th gen 5spd with a few bolt ons. Big deal!

 

i heard that the comptech headers were like $700 for the cl/tl's

 

I didn't believe it at first, but after seeing all the dyno charts of the autos getting with intake 35 more hp at the wheels, 235 hp for autos yea! The stock headers must suck is all I can say.

 

Comptech Headers are $1400 dollars installed (at least thats how much I paid). And they add around 30-35 horsepower to the floor in the VTEC rev range from 4800-7000 RPM's.

Agreed, those are some crappy 60' times for a 14.3 car. With a better launch and headers, that thing easily runs 13's. Damn, I wish the CL-S was a good looking as the TL-S, or I would have got a CL-S 6-speed!!!

 

Try $1300.


A CL-S I'm not sure if auto or manual posted a dyno:
1)Comptech header = 29.6hp, 9.6 lb-ft tq
2)AEM CAI = 8.1hp, 6.5 lb-ft tq

For a TOTAL of 37.7hp/16.1tq to the WHEELS.

 

We all wish!

$1200 new, used $800~

 

Do TL's and CL's have precats built into their headers too? How the hell can they get 30FWHP ?? This is not fair!!!

Oh man oh man.. I gotta get me a middle eastern VI.....

 

Damn

The CL-S is a nice car. Definately an alternative if you want 2 doors.. It looks good, it's an Acura.. Nice #s, good enough for me

Now, all we need is someone to make headers for the Max and we're straight..

 

Good times ****ty launch, with headers alone he will break into the 13's. Gotta love getting 25-30whp from headers!

 

You might consider a tire upgrade! I'm hearing that CL-S stock tires are ****ty as hell...

 

Yeah I know they suck. I'm getting new tires at the end of the month.

 

maybe the wife will want one of those

 

The key word being with BOLTONS this was done bone stock.

 

Can you explain to me why took a brand new Tl-S off the line, and walked him by over 1 car ? I haven't raced a CL-S yet. Nice car and everything, but tell your "TL-S" boys, unless their modded, back away from any 2K2, and Im an AUTO ! A 6 speed would eat a TL-S up and spit it out even faster !

 

theres always one guy.... ummm did you realize this is about the 6spd CL-s???

 

Due to the fact these two cars are very close. It will usually come down to who has the better launch, stock for stock.

 

CL-S should be compared with the new G35, becuase that's the class it's in. In that case, the G35 would win speed wise over the 6spd Cl-S, and it's a 5-speed auto. Pair a 6-speed manual with the G35 and it would ride the CL-S.

The Maxima should be competing with the Honda Accord, in which case it rapes it in speed, and every other catogory.

Let's also not forget torque boys. The Acura's-Honda's with their VTEC just don't have the low-end gizz of the VQ's.

So let's compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges...and when we do that..it looks like Nissan OWNS honda as well as all the other Jap companies in performance.

 

theblue has beaten modded ones too.

 

TL-S is heavier so its a bit slower as well. It weighs about 200lb heavier than the CL-S. Did you run from a complete stop or a roll? I got my *** kicked by a friend Sat night from a 20mph roll because I could not get my damn auto to shift back down into 1st, so I lugged from 2-3k in my 2nd gear CL-S. We ran again when I had it in 1st, and I killed him. He had a GTI VR6 that ran 15.0. 6spd vs 6spd, auto vs auto, too close to say. I have already read of about 4 TYPE-S's taking down 2k2 auto maximas. Go figure.

 

Hmmm, I don't see any proof of that yet. :P

 

I think he's refering to Honda nad Toyota as opposed to Acura and Lexus. In his apples to apples comparison he's dead right too.

 

I doubt he has beaten a modded 6sp CL-S since the car just came out in mid March. Maybe he beat a modded auto CL-S.

 

Yes the auto.

 

Power of the VQ, matt knows it.

Even Russell cannot deny it's, and 90% of Nissan's engines torquey Low end ballz.

 

Damn I love racing from a 20 roll a sweet spot for my CL-S. I don't see why you had a problem at that speed?

 

I totally diagree with that, 2k2 6spd Maxima and 2k2 6spd CLS are rather equal...both are 6spd, both are ~260, both are FWD, and so what maybe one wieghs a few 100 or so more with 2 extra doors...where is the real big class difference?? face it, the CLS 6spd is comp for the 2k2. If we start pulling all these excuses about "class this, class that", then theres no competition at all! as far as I can see thats apples to apples! as for comparing it to the G35 how can we say anything when the 6spd isn't out yet...

 

Yep, VQ is a nice engine and very quiet. This engine however does have alot of TQ from Honda. Probably one of the only couple of engines that do that actually surprised me. But I will say that the Type-S has a better powerband and longer.

 

I was in SS mode, said 2nd gear, car wouldn't downshift to 1st. I have no idea why.

 

In performance yes, in build quality no. It can't compare to Acura/Lexus/Infiniti, but for the price, the Maxima is one hell of a nice car that I sometimes miss shifting through its gears.