J9CIV9

hey, I'm new to the board, but hopefully you'll be seeing a lot of me....I own a 1999 Honda Civic EX now, modded out quite a bit, but it's time to grow up and get a real car (not that i have any complaints about my civic)...But the only option in my head right now is a 2000 maxima SE..my question is, how is the max for modding? I know you guys are gonna be biased, cuz it is maxima.org, but in an honest opinion, is it extremely expensive to add mods to the maxima (intake, y-pipe, exhaust, pulley, etc.)?, and do the mods actually make a difference (unlike my honda)? Thanks for your opinion...don't wanna sound like a newbie here, but....well, i am.

Vyrus

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All of those mods should run you a little over $1k without installation. You decide if that is expensive or not. As for the aftermarket support, it is NOTHING compared to your Civic, but good when compared to 6cyl. Accords and Camrys.
-Cyrus

cmac95gxe

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First of all, Welcome to the family! I'm glad you decided to get a REAL car. Maxima's are DEFINETLY the way to go and if search the posts a little you'll see that you do notice the difference when you do mods on the max. Can't wait to see pics of your max!

Yellowbrother

wait 2 more years and get the 2k2

SLC I30t

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I think that in a maxima some of your mods are nice to have for bragging rights but have no solid application. Pulleys are kind of like a ghost mod. some people say they see benifits of it, some say nay. Y pipe is 200 from warpspeed, 300 from cat man-you decide which you want. Intake is 200 for a CAI 100 for a pop charger (short ram). Exhausts don't benefit the performance of the car but gives it a nice sound to humm too when you are changin CD's. I would opt if you have the money for a 2k1 Anniversary Edition, just because it shouldn't be loads more money but has nice additions to it. Everything else is pretty universally priced... spring are 75-200 for lowering springs 300-1200 for coil overs. Have fun

Miguel97GLE

Yep, that's my plan exactly!

SteVTEC

Whatever you do, don't get an Accord V6

Also, get the 5spd Maxima. Don't get the automatic.

Good luck

_DRU_

fo sho!

ChillWill2000

Definitly DONT get the autotragic!!!

I ended up gettin the auto and have regretted it ever since. Im still gonna make it as fast as possible but I wish it was a standard. If it wasnt for Don and Kevin id have no hope at all.


Welcome to the org

blizz20oma

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If it's the modding you're really into and not the car, buy a restricted american large-engine rwd machine. Cheap mods that definitely noticably improve the performance of the car.

Course, if you want a respectable, smooth ride, opt for the Max
Definitely hold out for a 5-speed as others indicated. From what I've seen the simple mods don't have a huge impact or anything, and aren't the cheapest, but the car itself is butter smooth, quiet, and responsive.

J30A1

Whats wrong with an Accord V6?

blizz20oma

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Automatic. The honda way...lets only offer manuals in our bottom-trim lines... :/ (At least they finally came with the 6-speed CL-S)

Plus lazy gearing. The accord V6's are quite more comfort-V6 rides than performance-V6.

JAIMECBR900

Did he just go there?

J30A1

The Accord V6 is geared for gas mileage not performance. That doesn't mean it has a problem.

J30A1

Don't think your beloved maxima is gods gift to the automotive world. It obviously has things wrong with it otherwise it would outsell the accord now wouldn't it!

Mustang1999

oh God... here we go again...

I beg you guys not to turn this into Acura/Honda vs. Maxima.. PLEASE.

Thanks.

Matticus

I doubt he does. He was just saying don't get a Accord V6, because there isn't much you can do to it to make it perform well, mainly becuase, like you said, it is geared for gas mileage. In the case of our topic here, an Accord V6 is not a good choice. And the Maxima is obviously not gods gift to the automotive world, the Skyline is.

Colonel

Gee and sales numbers make it the best right? Remember when the Ford Taurus was "outselling" everything? Does that mean its a better car or that everyone and their brother has one....?

Sales mean ****. Companies market differently, use incentives differently. Ford Escort was a HUGE seller but it was cheap..so thats why it sold.

As for the post at hand, the Maxima does not have the same kind of aftermarket support that you see with the Civic. BUT you will ditch the super buzzy 4-cycl. You do have options, but not as plentiful and a little more $$$$. Good luck on your decision.

BlackCat

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I'll bet that the type of buyer that make up the Honda sales figures are more interested in getting from point A to B in comfort with reliability with reasonable quickness. Reliability is the key word here.

MaximaPower

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if u read the first post on this thread u would see that he
wants performance

SteVTEC

It's slow as hell. The engine has ZERO low-end torque. The engine's powerband is also ridiculously small and centered waaaaaaaay up high in the rev range where it's inaccessible for daily driving. And the 4AT wide ratio tranny just can't keep it in the powerband, and the gearing is horrible. You can't grab 2nd gear at 60 mph to get around idiots, or close the door on road raging SUV's.

No, the Maxima is geared for economy too - in the automatic. The AV6's problem is that the engine itself is tuned for economy in every sense whereas the VQ in the Maxima was designed from the ground up for performance.

Wrong once again. The Maxima doesn't compete *all* Accords - just with the Accord V6.

Roughly 90% of the 400,000 Accords that were sold in 2001 were 4-cyl models. So that leaves just 40,000 Accord V6's sold. Last year Nissan sold 100,000 Maxima's, all of which are V6's. So it looks to me like the Maxima is outselling its Honda equivalent by over a 2:1 margin.

Nobody here will tell you that the Maxima is God's gift to the automotive world. The car has its faults. But that VQ engine....certainly one could argue that the VQ is God's gift to V6's











PS...why are you here anyways? Did you get burned by a few Maxima's

chinaonnitrous1

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Couldn't have said it better..the ULEV or SULEV stickers on thoes hondas make it a no-go car to begin with...like my friends 2k1 civic...exhaust adds like 2hp

lcf

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if accords v6's COST the same as maxima's... who would outsell who?

acMAX

I KILL V6 HONDA's ALL THE TIME.....

and to be honest....racing a V6 Honda isn't even fun!


actually what am I saying?
Blowing away a V6 Accord is maaaad fun.
Especially when they think they're actually gonna beat you!

LMAO!!

blizz20oma

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Nah, he just wanted to come onto a Maxima board to tell everyone how much he loves his gas-mileage-friendly familymobile

They're not bad cars...they don't "have a problem" really, with the exception of a good chance of the driver falling asleep behind the wheel. They're aimed at a certain market, and they fit that need very well with great reliability. Unfortunately, that's not the need or desire of the original poster.

MaximaPower

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i like the AV6....my girlfriend drives a 2000 V6 sedan
it's a great car for her
but i like my max better

J30A1

Accord V6's are not slow as hell. They are actually quite fast for a 200hp sedan. They might not be as fast as your 2002 Maximas or a 5spd maxima but 15.9 stock isnt bad at all. The current generation maxima pre 2002 auto pulls high 15's in the 1/4 too so are you calling that slow. With 22 more horsepower and being just as heavy as the accord it should be faster now shouldn't it! You should know that it isnt the Engine that is restricting the V6 performance...it is the ECU. You should know that since you had a AV6 and have heard of the Unichip to aid the performance. When you say " (Wrong once again. The Maxima doesn't compete *all* Accords - just with the Accord V6.)" I never said it competed with all other accords. You seem to be pulling that out of your ***! The VQ is far from God's Gift...no need to argue that one. I don't care what Wards Automotive says...they are the only group to give the VQ an award. The J32A2 in the TL-S outperforms your VQ35 in your 02 Maxima. The TL-S is heavier with 5 more horses and 14 lbs ft of torque less yet faster than the Auto 2002 Max. What does that tell you.....

P.S Im here because I can be and there is nothing you can do about it! Getting burned by a Maxima isn't my concern...its helping them clean up the mess after one loses control on the road for going to fast!

MaximaPower

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why do u keep saying "god's gift"?
and who's arguing that the VQ is "god's gift"?

Mustang1999

*sigh* I guess things will never change... sad really...

J9CIV9

hey, well this site has all kinds of controversy....so I'll fit in just fine here anyway, thanks for your help, i put in a request today.....2000 SE, dark grey, black, or white, 5-speed....give me about 2 weeks, and i'll get pics...thanks again.

Matt93SE

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Lock? delete? please!
before I go postal or turn into Russ and start rambling on about how my 9 year old car is better than any of yours, even though they're not even in the same market anymore..

oh well.

I guess everyone likes trying to tell me a banana tastes more like the perfect apple than an orange does.

GROW THE HELL UP YOU MORONS!

fst96se

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J.D. Power and Associates......

They have rated it the best V6 many times as well.

BTW....V6 Maximas outsell Accord V6's AND Camry V6's COMBINED!

ericdwong

Battle of the family sedans eh? My mom's absolutely bone stock 1998 Toyota Camry v6 AUTO runs 15.5 consistently, with its best at 15.4. Btw I did drive an accord v6 auto and its SOHC was slow as *****. No power and I floored the F out of it. So yes, I'd say the accord v6 is slow as hell. BTW, I'm not a maxima lover either, most the people here know my feelings towards the car. However I am glad at times I have a max over an accord v6.

csnow

I beg to differ, Comptech just came out with supercharger for the accord v-6 98-00, read about it this month, I believe it boosts about 5psi.

JAIMECBR900

The funny thing is all I said was that I couldn't believe he went there.

If Mr. Accord wants to discuss the merits of the Honda vs. Maxima, he should start his own thread and see what happens.

The original poster should by now be clear that some of us make direct and intelligent posts. Other people like to get off on tangents. Stick to the subject and if you wanna fight, cool- start your own thread and see where that gets you.

Y2KevSE

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No one races with a grocery getter.

ReichMax97

You're right bud, an Accord V6 is pretty much the same as 4th and 5th gen. auto Maximas. I just get sick of seeing accords, i see about 10 of them on any 15 minute trip. Not nearly as much as Maximas. You should be proud man, your upper scale model of the honda accord just competes with the lowest of of us auto Max drivers, and a race would just be a coin toss in the air. As for the TL-S, there are a lot of guys that have beaten the TL-S in their 2k2 maximas. That is about the same competition as your accord v6 to a stock auto max (exclude 2k2) I hate it whenever talking about Accord V6 vs. Maxima, the accord guys throw their beloved TL-S into the argument but a TL-S is not an accord, it may be a more upscale one, but it is not your accord so don't compare it that way. Maybe I'm biased against accords (forgive me) but part of that is this girl at my school with an Accord 4 banger with fart can(not exhaust,only muffler), CAI (stock filter), Altezzas, carbon fiber hood, front part of body kit, not lowered, and a 2 foot tall wing too i think about 135 hp....stupid hondas

SLC I30t

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Well they have 2 different engines... they are not the same car. Doesn't the new accord V6's have the 3.0 vtec? the TL has a 3.2

ReichMax97

Yup that is what I was saying, they're not the same car, so I hate when the TL-S is thrown into a Maxima vs. Accord V6 argument. An accord and TL-s are similar in body styles, and thats about it, they're just both HONDUHS. Don't get my wrong a TL-S is a nice car, great in fact, but its not an Accord though.

MaximaPower

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i saw that in HONDA tuning..they ran an avg of 14.7 with the sc
nothing to brag about