What to do if a bussiness owned by .org member scammed you for $1800?

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Jun 16, 2002 | 06:22 PM
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Is there any help maxima.org members/moderartors can give me reagarding a .org member who's never sent me $1830 worth of products sinse March 27. The payment was made via paypal which only insures buyers for 30 days. The only reason I am posting here is beacuse the seller runs group deals on maxima.org all the time, and I want members to be aware of what he has done the other problem is he is located in FL while I am in NY. The shop is authaus performance and the member is Yankee(James). The story is very long so I can email anyone who has questions. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Jun 16, 2002 | 06:24 PM
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good luck
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Jun 16, 2002 | 06:29 PM
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Re: What to do if a bussiness owned by .org member scammed you for $1800?
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Originally posted by MIke523
Is there any help maxima.org members/moderartors can give me reagarding a .org member who's never sent me $1830 worth of products sinse March 27. The payment was made via paypal which only insures buyers for 30 days. The only reason I am posting here is beacuse the seller runs group deals on maxima.org all the time, and I want members to be aware of what he has done the other problem is he is located in FL while I am in NY. The shop is authaus performance and the member is Yankee(James). The story is very long so I can email anyone who has questions. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
He doesn't live too far away from me, and I know alot of people in the Southeast forum meet up with him/do business with him. Post in the SE forums about it, i'm sure you'll get your goods.
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Jun 16, 2002 | 06:34 PM
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Re: What to do if a bussiness owned by .org member scammed you for $1800?
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Originally posted by MIke523
Is there any help maxima.org members/moderartors can give me reagarding a .org member who's never sent me $1830 worth of products sinse March 27. The payment was made via paypal which only insures buyers for 30 days. The only reason I am posting here is beacuse the seller runs group deals on maxima.org all the time, and I want members to be aware of what he has done the other problem is he is located in FL while I am in NY. The shop is authaus performance and the member is Yankee(James). The story is very long so I can email anyone who has questions. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Paypal insurance is BS. They only can refund you the money IF that user has the money in that account. If the user already withdrawed it from paypal all your money is lost. I lost 150.00 this way, and basically paypal said too bad.
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Jun 16, 2002 | 07:12 PM
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No I will defineitly not be getting my goods beacause after waiting sinse March 27 for my 18'rims/ tires and my y-pipe, I asked for a refund at the begining of May which he promised he would send out to me. It is now June 15 and he has sent me nothing he also stoped answering all e-mails and PM's.
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Jun 16, 2002 | 08:42 PM
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Re: What to do if a bussiness owned by .org member scammed you for $1800?
Now thats a large quantity of money!!!

Why do we have such dishonest son of B!tches in this world!!
The worst part about it is that you asked for you money back and he has not sent it back to you. I d be very pist off , I hope you get your problem fixed!!!This is the 2nd post this week with the rip offs!!
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Jun 16, 2002 | 08:58 PM
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you still have your paypal receipt?

and the email correspondences saved?

if so, this is no different than getting ripped off by taco bell. get the biggest baddest mother (shut your mouth) out there (make sure he has a law degree) and get your money back.

if you need help.

see my siggy.

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Jun 16, 2002 | 09:01 PM
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Time for you to call your buddy Guido. Nuff said
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Jun 16, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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there's also prepaid legal services... 15 bucks a month gets you covered with legal representation. Comes in handy for times like this.
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Jun 16, 2002 | 09:13 PM
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I doubt Yankee! would ever scam you, his done so much business on here, i dont know what to say about that.. Just call him, best thing to do.
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Jun 16, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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Re: Re: What to do if a bussiness owned by .org member scammed you for $1800?
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


Paypal insurance is BS. They only can refund you the money IF that user has the money in that account. If the user already withdrawed it from paypal all your money is lost. I lost 150.00 this way, and basically paypal said too bad.
I dont know if this has changed but I had a different experience. I got screwed out of a radar detector a while ago, and so did everybody else but paypal refunded my money. I can see this changing though, as the majority of internet scams happen at auctions and online trading.
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Jun 16, 2002 | 09:28 PM
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Re: What to do if a bussiness owned by .org member scammed you for $1800?
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Originally posted by MIke523
Is there any help maxima.org members/moderartors can give me reagarding a .org member who's never sent me $1830 worth of products sinse March 27. The payment was made via paypal which only insures buyers for 30 days. The only reason I am posting here is beacuse the seller runs group deals on maxima.org all the time, and I want members to be aware of what he has done the other problem is he is located in FL while I am in NY. The shop is authaus performance and the member is Yankee(James). The story is very long so I can email anyone who has questions. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
What you could do is file a complaint with the NYS Attorney General's office, and then they in turn will file in FL on your behalf. Usually they will resolve the matter, though it may take 60 days or so. I can't understand why someone would take your money and not give you goods or a refund, I mean c'mon now, over such a small amount they'd be willing to cheat? Can't you just pick up the phone and call up this dude? You might as well let him know you'll be contacting the atty gen, because it's just common courtesy to give him one last chance before he gets into a heap of trouble.
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Jun 17, 2002 | 06:22 AM
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I think you guys should try and use www.escrow.com for large purchases. It may cost a little, but it is the only safe way without getting legal services. Small price for a piece of mind.

Brian
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Jun 17, 2002 | 08:31 AM
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Re: Re: What to do if a bussiness owned by .org member scammed you for $1800?
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Originally posted by Frank Fontaine


What you could do is file a complaint with the NYS Attorney General's office, and then they in turn will file in FL on your behalf. Usually they will resolve the matter, though it may take 60 days or so. I can't understand why someone would take your money and not give you goods or a refund, I mean c'mon now, over such a small amount they'd be willing to cheat? Can't you just pick up the phone and call up this dude? You might as well let him know you'll be contacting the atty gen, because it's just common courtesy to give him one last chance before he gets into a heap of trouble.
yep yep. It is considered a Federal crime since the interaction involves two states. Slap a nice lawsuit on him and see how he responds. Oh, if this goes to court, he would have to go down to your location (very inconvenient).
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Jun 17, 2002 | 08:42 AM
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Or you can just dispute charges with your bank. Thats what I did once. As long as you have your PayPal payment acceptance receipts, and all the corresp. emails that you've been trying to send...Good Luck!
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Jun 17, 2002 | 03:45 PM
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Thats y its nicknamed PAYHELL!
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Jun 17, 2002 | 03:47 PM
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i personal would seek my attorney & sue his a$$....
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Jun 17, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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http://www.paypalwarning.com/
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Jun 17, 2002 | 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by K Pazzo 6
i personal would seek my attorney & sue his a$$....
It wouldn't be worth it to hire an attorney, you'd be out a minimum $800 right off the bat. The amount would be small claims, and the dude would have to go all the way to FL and now get this, even when a person wins, the other party can simply blow-off the judgement. That happened to me in NY until I found out where the dude worked and served him with an income execution. Now there was no way for the c******** to get out of it, he had to pay the judgement, sheriff fees plus being approached at work by uniformed and armed cops. Was it worth it? No way, but I was young and Mr. it's a matter of principle. yeah, right !

I hope I didn't misunderstand. I'm thinking now that Paypal was used the other guy isn't actually a business but just a dude? Dang, that s****!
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Jun 17, 2002 | 04:19 PM
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Judge Joe Brown his ***
and no I am not kidding, the court TV shows are constantly looking for littigants.
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Jun 17, 2002 | 04:53 PM
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MIke523, try to get your credit card company to investigate the matter if you used a credit card through PayPal. I also ordered a set of Stillen rotors and waited for about 3 weeks but the product never came. I made a complain to my credit card company and 2 months later I got my money back. The GD stuff run by him is full of BS. He can't even deliver the goods but charged my credit card the same day I gave him my card info. Always giving excuses like "James is not around and I don't know anything" , " I'll check on it and give you a call back" (never receive a single call back from that f**ker).
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Jun 17, 2002 | 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by bsetiawan
MIke523, try to get your credit card company to investigate the matter if you used a credit card through PayPal. I also ordered a set of Stillen rotors and waited for about 3 weeks but the product never came. I made a complain to my credit card company and 2 months later I got my money back. The GD stuff run by him is full of BS. He can't even deliver the goods but charged my credit card the same day I gave him my card info. Always giving excuses like "James is not around and I don't know anything" , " I'll check on it and give you a call back" (never receive a single call back from that f**ker).
That's a really good idea, and it's effective too. I got overbilled by a telecom company, but my billing is online with a credit card. They refused to even investigate the matter. Took two months but the charges were removed.

Fraud should not be a joke, the victims should be compensated and the perps should be introduced to a jail cell. See how many cross-drilled rotors you can sell in there pal.

Like the Visa commercial.....I am Emmet Smits......
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Jun 17, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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Thanks for all the replys well there's are alot of good ideas that can help brought up hear. first of as far as paypal I contacted them and all they help you with is 30 days sinse payment, other problem is I use my bank account with paypal not my credit card and my bank will do nothing about a transcation from March. But with all talk about attorneys good news Is My Dad is an attorney but the problem is he doenst like me hookin up my cars so he will rub this incident in my face. Also GTR rider = that wrote Yankee has been doing bussiness so long with .org and I doubt he would ever scam you, that is excatly why I am so pist the only reason I purchased good from somone so far away is that he supposedly had credibilit with .org members but in this case he took advantage of that. And beilive me I have called his shop probably 100 times usually he doesnt answer and sometimes people say he is not there, but when I do get him on the phone ever 20 calls or so he bull****s me promising me the refund is on its way, he said twice it got lost in the mail, and the last time I called he promised to give me a free shift **** b/c my troubloes that was 2 and a half weeks ago and he still gave me no tracking #. but the idea about filing with the NYS attorney general is what sound best to me. Thanks again
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Jun 17, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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I say loose $200 in a plane ticket and go down there and beat his A$$!!!! For the right amount of money, im in Miami and I could do it for you!
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Jun 17, 2002 | 06:39 PM
  #25  
Id fly there and talk to him in person, you can get there for less than 1800.
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Jun 17, 2002 | 07:34 PM
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I would love to fly down to Florida... but I figured by posting on .org yankee would actually rspond and explain to, myself along with some members that used or were planning to use his shop, what exctly is going on. But the way it looks he won't even do that. Sinse Authaus performance had credibility with the .org he should at least respond. So I posted in the South East forum with all the guys that actually know him personally and they said they will talk with him. what really ****ses me off is that while I am rollin on my ****ty hubcaps, he is probably using my money on the custom turbo kit he is putting together for himself.
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Jun 17, 2002 | 11:49 PM
  #27  
what an azzwhole that guy is.

it's one thing if there was a miscomunication or mistake made, with money or the product getting lost or something, but this is just bs.

[putsonflamesuit]
I'd probably take him to court in your shoes.. let's be serious, no one will go and meet the guy in person, who knows what might come out of that.... if there is no way to get in contact with him, i would do what i can to get my money back.. Sue for more than you paid him, save all the emails and all communication you made with him. This is probably the most logical, legal, safest and maybe even quickest way to get your money back.. I don't know about others but 1,800$ is a lot of money to me. Your threat or filed lawsuit might scare him and force him to give you your money back.
Good luck with whatever you decide, hope you resolve this without any further trouble.
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Jun 18, 2002 | 12:00 AM
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Originally posted by MIke523
he is probably using my money on the custom turbo kit he is putting together for himself.
damn this happens a lot...thats one of the reasons I only deal with guys on here that I know either personally or have chatted with for a while and know their persona! other than that, I'm not too keen on sending BIG LOOT to just any guy on here, I've seen way too many good guys get screwed!

and if he TRULY is robbing you than he'll get his...maybe a few vaccum hoses will slip off when he's running his new turbo kit... and BOOM!!!

good luck!!
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Jun 18, 2002 | 01:10 AM
  #29  
have him pay for your plane ticket too.. let him know, if he doesn't settle it then a law suite will follow soon after. make sure you do not physically or verbally abuse him.. and tape record the conversation.. to be able to use the tape recorded material in court you must say to him "i will begin recording our conversation for legal purposes, do you oblige to my recording of our conversation?" and if he says yes then u're gold.. if he says no.. then u'll just hafta put the conversation down on paper.. i dont' know why it's legal to put things on paper and use it regardless as oppsed to using a taped conversation.. but neways.. if it was me i'de fly down there and have a nice "chat" with the guy in a civilized fashion.
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Jun 18, 2002 | 08:59 AM
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Originally posted by DA-MAX

damn this happens a lot...thats one of the reasons I only deal with guys on here that I know either personally or have chatted with for a while and know their persona! other than that, I'm not too keen on sending BIG LOOT to just any guy on here, I've seen way too many good guys get screwed!
This is why I don't deal with Paypal; there's no need for a middleman in the transaction when I can use my credit merchant account for all the CC transactions. If I need to make a dispute or if they do, there's no hassle to it.
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Jun 18, 2002 | 12:01 PM
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Mike, I sorry to hear what happened to you. Hope everything works out. BTW you're paint job looks nice. Can't wait to see it with rims!
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