Level 10 is willing to do a group deal on a 5th Gen. (2000+) VB swap.

If we get 5 people, they will do it for $598.

If we get 10 people, $500.

Let's get 10!

How it will work:
All 10+ people will have to send a deposit ($100). I will buy the initial VB, which they will mod. Then, they will contact each other person in the deal, and do your swap.

Note:
I've heard nothing but good things about the product & Customer Service at Level 10. That is definetely worth a couple extra bucks! (You know what I mean if you've been in on the VB threads in the "Shop Experience" forum)

WHO IS IN?

 

Actually I've read some bad things about Level 10.

 

Please provide support or detail so we can all make an informed decision.

 

http://www.supraforums.com/showthrea...n+transmission
http://www.supraforums.com/showthrea...+transmissions

 

Duely noted. Thanks for the input.

I guess there will always be complaints and praise, on any company. I've never seen a company that didn't hack-off someone. So how do you weed out the better from the worse?

I'd like to see some input from Max org. memebers, who have had their Max worked on by level 10. Anyone?

 

So why not just go with Don's vb Group deal? There are WAY more positive posts on his mod than Levelten. So what if there a few bad reviews right?

 

You're trying to convince the wrong guy on that issue... see:

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....47#post1290268

and
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....hreadid=118094

and
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....&highlight=Don

As you can see I (as well as many others) would argue with your theory.

 

Micheal,


I would seriously avoid Level10......they don't have as good of a rep here and Don's mod is the best one. Of course, I know that's now what you want to hear.....

 

Which problem would you rather have? Level ten's complaints revolve around the product NOT WORKING and bad customer service.

Don's mod is a proven product. Just slow sometimes w/ his CS.(as he is a small business)

 

All your comments are appreciated. Well, I obviously can not going to proceed without the org supporting it.

So... it seems we are all up sheet creak with no paddle.

We've got the best product, which I can't get. And then I've got a lesser product, I can get as much of as I want. WTF!

What is a guy to do?

 

those were supraforums.. i think rba and hogan both got their tranny work done from level 10. no complaints so far..
im looking on getting the vb done. i just dont like don's down time.

 

There is a pay off here somewhere. How much does he pay you to advertise for him?

 

About a million

 

He is not the only one that SLOW. The people that back up his BS are even SLOWER.

 

What are you talking about? Does the product work or not?

The sky is blue on Fridays

 

Give me some proof, just like the 12.2 timeslip. It ain't there now nor will it ever be because it don't exist.

I can switch between full and normal line pressure and have run the fastest 60' on this forum. Does that work or not?

So how good is Don's VB mod? Is it just make believe, make your tranny last longer mod or is it a performance mod?

Take your pick, just not worth the money or effort to believe in it. Its also hard to justify when there is no evidence to say it makes the car faster or makes the transmission last longer.

You can say what you want but unsubstantiated words are just BS.

 

I don't have to give you crap as I never said he did 12.2. Flame the right person will ya.



Again WHAT!? When did unhooking your resister come into this? Is that the same as Don's VB mod? Does that prove that his VBmod works or not? Nope.


How in hell should I know? I have a 5-sp. Go search and read the countless postive remarks about his mod.



How do you KNOW it doesn't work? You don't even have one, tested one or used one correct? You don't like it? Fine don't buy it. Why do you care anyway? It's not something you are going to buy or have the slightest interest in. Buy one, install it, get some credible proof(other than your opinion) then come back and comment. Otherwise you don't have anything other than your uninformed opinion to stand on. BTW, since when did Don claim "if you use my mod it will make your car do 12.2"?? Why are you even mentioning 12.2 anyway. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE GROUP DEAL.

Sorta like your OPINION on the VB mod considering you never used it right?

 

You are the one backing this guy up and saying its a proven product. I didn't say that. I say its not proven.

It all has to do with the credibilty of the individual selling it. If he claims stuff that doesn't exist (ie 12.2) and sells products using the forum as a sounding board it does matter. You are either credible or you aren't, very simple. That goes for all you say, you can't be dishonest in something and honest in another, just don't work that way. Sounds like a US President when you put it that way.

PS Why delete the locked post in General. I was wondering what rule I violated with that post, I thought I was being very honest.

 

Incorrect assumption. Because YOU don't believe Don did 12.2, you cannot assume his product doesn't work. Then you must also believe all the people that have great testimonials(alot) are lying and being paid by Don also right?

 

Wrong

If you are not credible in one thing you state then you are not credible in any other thing you say either very simple.

I haven't read a lot of great testimonials lately, mostly people trying to get their money back or those who have stated their is no increase in their performance because of the vb mod.

Maybe we aren't reading the same posts.

 

Nope you are wrong. You can find neg posts about each and every product(good or bad). Again your theory is wrong. Your assumption might make someone more cautious but THAT DOESN'T MEAN THE PRODUCT DOESN'T WORK NOW DOES IT? BTW again, this is something you have great interest in but absolutely no experience in. Besides, the only credibility at stake here is your own opinion of him. About a product you don't have and you never tested.

You are commenting on a product you have absolutely no experience with. Nor have you stated any technical reasons why the product would not work. Thefore you are UNQUALIFIED to give any argument as to why the said product would NOT work exactly as stated.

 

I30Krab got the whole level 10 package. Even the manual shifting box thingy. Guess what happened to his tranny?

 

just get the vb done from maximum tuning in long island. jeff just opened up his shop and hes getting a tech to get teh vb's done overnight if you drive up here and everything. and the best thing is..NO NEGATIVE ReMARKS!!! on the org (no positive yet either cause no one here has it)..lol
but i heard hes really reliable.

 

 

His tranny worked perfectly and his car was better and he was very happy? The End.

 

I think I'm going to side with Jime on the performance issues; many have claimed that it didn't make a difference in their ET's (or if it did, it was maybe a 10th - this could all attribute to better/worse driving though).

The other thing to keep in mind : I've got the updated TCM + solenoid fixes; I NEVER run boost off the line (1st) because it's the 1st-2nd shift that's the horrible slowpoke one; along the rest of the band and gears, the car does a much better job.

After getting to go for a spin in a VB'd max though I gotta admit it does an admirable job of shifting "better" and "faster" : but how much will that do for your ET's depends on what you've done to your car.. I can see it cutting a tiny bit off your stock E/T's.. my main reasoning behind getting this mod is that the slippage I see is deadly - even moreso with the blower on (I will not gun it from first - period). I see this as something that will help my tranny last a bit longer, and maybe give me an extra 10th or two in the quarter when I finally take my supercharged car to the track. Given the extra slippage I see right now, I will gain much more of an advantage with the VB mod when compared to someone for example who only has a cone or cai...

To each their own : I haven't gone with Don's VB for two reasons : I question his business practices when it comes to customer service, and I can't afford the downtime of being in Canada whereas he is in the TX (maybe if he did a better job of communicating with his customers, my worry would be alleviated).

Meh Level 10 for me... in part at least

 

Hogan did get his tranny rebuilt by level ten, and guess what happened to it... oh wait, he doesn't exist here, must have been another .Org member...

Not to jump on the band wagon, but I remember when the whole Don ran a 12.2 thread came up... Guess who posted it? It wasn't Don. I don't remember Don even saying much about it... he never came on bragging, I think it was Russ who posted it first, not Don, he only replied. Why make a sudden personal attack about this? Either way, Phil still had the second fastest Max time, though those two went round and round about it, but I guess since it looked like he never pulled his motor... wait, don't want to go down that road again... What it comes down to is this, so what if he did or didn't run a 12.2, how does this effect your life, my life, or anyone elses lives? If ya come up with a reason, continue on with the sensless argueing, or else, LET IT GO