Group Deal on Second Skin sound deadening?
12-01-2003, 02:26 AM
#41
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Originally Posted by Mike H.
Sorry, a couple more questions... What's the difference between damplifier V1 and V2? Also, damplifier has a dimpled surface. If I were to use a roller over this, will the dimple pattern still hold or will it get flattened out? Also, if I were to double up on the damplifier for example, how well does the dimpled surface hold the second layer?
For damplifier and STFU80, the temperature data, are those DLF readings? Thanks again. Sorry for being a pain with all the questions.
Oh yeah, how flexible is STFU since it's 80mil thick?
For damplifier and STFU80, the temperature data, are those DLF readings? Thanks again. Sorry for being a pain with all the questions.
Oh yeah, how flexible is STFU since it's 80mil thick?
I am still "IN", but I don't want to be the only one (Prefer to get the 15+ people price)
12-01-2003, 09:20 AM
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Good questions Mike H.
The new Damplifier .v2 willn ot have the dimpled heat shield. I have found that the material needs as much surface area as possible to get the most benifit out of the material. When using multiple layers the dimples get in the way of that surface contact. With .v1 you really need to apply A LOT of pressure to get the SBS in to the dimples on the previous sheet. This makes it that much harder to install. .V2 does not have the dimples so it is easier to install multiple layer.
The Dimples were used to distributed heat, but have turned out to be more of a novelty thing. the SBS formula has been changed a bit to take on more heat to compensate for lack of the dimples.
The acoustic loss factor (same as dlf) and temperature ratings are listed.
STFU 80 can withstand over 300 degrees. damplifier is set at 230+ degrees
Hoep this helps
The new Damplifier .v2 willn ot have the dimpled heat shield. I have found that the material needs as much surface area as possible to get the most benifit out of the material. When using multiple layers the dimples get in the way of that surface contact. With .v1 you really need to apply A LOT of pressure to get the SBS in to the dimples on the previous sheet. This makes it that much harder to install. .V2 does not have the dimples so it is easier to install multiple layer.
The Dimples were used to distributed heat, but have turned out to be more of a novelty thing. the SBS formula has been changed a bit to take on more heat to compensate for lack of the dimples.
The acoustic loss factor (same as dlf) and temperature ratings are listed.
STFU 80 can withstand over 300 degrees. damplifier is set at 230+ degrees
Hoep this helps
12-04-2003, 02:22 AM
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You can only edit for the first 1440 minutes or something like that. So I'll do a quick tally here. So far:
[list]
1. BLAZETIGER
2. HitManSE
3. topdog1207
WHERE IS EVERYBODY ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought there was a lot more interest.
[list]
1. BLAZETIGER
2. HitManSE
3. topdog1207
WHERE IS EVERYBODY ELSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I thought there was a lot more interest.
12-04-2003, 09:00 AM
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forum members get vinyl liner for 50% off plus shipping.
no group deals on that.
If you really want to get rid of all exhaust and road noise, then you must use a combonation of materials. Vibration dampers are the frist layer, then a barrier aborber composite to reflect and minimize sound. this is what vinyl liner does.
I reccomend it if you are serious about making your car quiet.
ANT
no group deals on that.
If you really want to get rid of all exhaust and road noise, then you must use a combonation of materials. Vibration dampers are the frist layer, then a barrier aborber composite to reflect and minimize sound. this is what vinyl liner does.
I reccomend it if you are serious about making your car quiet.
ANT
12-04-2003, 11:42 PM
#52
Originally Posted by DanNY
let us know when this deal happens..i'm in.
Hell im going to meet up with him this saturday and pick up two rolls, one of 40ft roll of stfu 80 for the trunk & a 50ft roll of v2 damplfier for the doors and whatever is left.
12-05-2003, 05:04 PM
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those are a measurement of vibration reduction oncold stell at 200 hz. the ratings are the acoustic loss factors.
I personaly dont like this sytem since it measures sound to rate vibration, and the tests can easily be scued. however they are widely accpeted in the industry and are a must.
Hope his helps
ANT
I personaly dont like this sytem since it measures sound to rate vibration, and the tests can easily be scued. however they are widely accpeted in the industry and are a must.
Hope his helps
ANT
12-06-2003, 11:15 AM
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yeah
though the numbers can be altered. I chose not to alter my numbers, even though I should have if I want to keep up with the game.
A lot of companied alter thier number buy using 2 layers of material rather than 1. or folding the damper in creases to add weight, makig the numbers higher.
I wasnt exactly happy with the numbers from STFU-80, but I have done many side by side comparisons, and have seen this stuff in action. it is incredible. nubmers were disapointing though
Toa naswer the questions about damplifier reducing sound. it does a good job of that, especially w/ 2 or 3 layers.
but to get rid of raod noise, exhaust noise completely, you really need to do several products. vinyl liner being the best one for that
it reflects and minimized the sound waves
Vibrations dampers dampen structure borne sound, limiting the amount of noise.
Barriers and abosrber dampen airborn sound waves.
Hope this helps
ANT
though the numbers can be altered. I chose not to alter my numbers, even though I should have if I want to keep up with the game.
A lot of companied alter thier number buy using 2 layers of material rather than 1. or folding the damper in creases to add weight, makig the numbers higher.
I wasnt exactly happy with the numbers from STFU-80, but I have done many side by side comparisons, and have seen this stuff in action. it is incredible. nubmers were disapointing though
Toa naswer the questions about damplifier reducing sound. it does a good job of that, especially w/ 2 or 3 layers.
but to get rid of raod noise, exhaust noise completely, you really need to do several products. vinyl liner being the best one for that
it reflects and minimized the sound waves
Vibrations dampers dampen structure borne sound, limiting the amount of noise.
Barriers and abosrber dampen airborn sound waves.
Hope this helps
ANT
12-07-2003, 02:56 AM
#58
Originally Posted by topdog1207
so when is this gd going to get on way? im ready whenever your ready to start this thing. Come on people! we all say we want this stuff but when it comes down to it only a few of us step up.
I just met up with him & picked up nearly 150ft worth of the stuff.
12-07-2003, 08:38 AM
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and thanks for the business JON!
I tell you what. here is the deal I will do since some people are wanting to do this faster than others.
Anyone that makes payment for Second Skin Damplifier TODAY, december 7th, will get the middle price if they order 2 kits
to get the lowest price you will need to order 4 kits
this is only for today though.
all orders will ship out tomarrow morning.
Maybe this will help a few select people
email me for shipping charges
service@secondskinaudio.com
ANT
I tell you what. here is the deal I will do since some people are wanting to do this faster than others.
Anyone that makes payment for Second Skin Damplifier TODAY, december 7th, will get the middle price if they order 2 kits
to get the lowest price you will need to order 4 kits
this is only for today though.
all orders will ship out tomarrow morning.
Maybe this will help a few select people
email me for shipping charges
service@secondskinaudio.com
ANT
12-10-2003, 06:15 AM
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Hey guys.
so now it looks like we have enough people on both forums to meet the middle row price break. $59 plus shipping.soo right now if anyone wats the material and can wait the current GB is $59 .
The Group deal will go on untill December 15th.
5 more days. if there are 15 more more people interested at that time the price will go down to $54, and for those 8 people that bough t at the $59 price I will refund thier $5.
To get the ball rolling email me
service@secondskinaudio.com
send me you r zip code so I can figure in shipping charges.
or
go to UPS.com and figure shipping charges out your selff. my zip code is 85242
then deposit the money in the Second Skin paypal account
payments@secondskinaudio.com
or use bidpay.com
I will ship all orders out imediately.
I will also start another thread onthis.
ANT
so now it looks like we have enough people on both forums to meet the middle row price break. $59 plus shipping.soo right now if anyone wats the material and can wait the current GB is $59 .
The Group deal will go on untill December 15th.
5 more days. if there are 15 more more people interested at that time the price will go down to $54, and for those 8 people that bough t at the $59 price I will refund thier $5.
To get the ball rolling email me
service@secondskinaudio.com
send me you r zip code so I can figure in shipping charges.
or
go to UPS.com and figure shipping charges out your selff. my zip code is 85242
then deposit the money in the Second Skin paypal account
payments@secondskinaudio.com
or use bidpay.com
I will ship all orders out imediately.
I will also start another thread onthis.
ANT
12-10-2003, 03:42 PM
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to properly do the rear dash, do the following
2 layers Damplifier top of rear dash
1 layer underneath top rear dash
1 layer Rattle Pad or Vinyl Liner top of rear dash.
this is (IMO) the proper way to dampen the rear deck
hope it helps
ANT
2 layers Damplifier top of rear dash
1 layer underneath top rear dash
1 layer Rattle Pad or Vinyl Liner top of rear dash.
this is (IMO) the proper way to dampen the rear deck
hope it helps
ANT
12-11-2003, 10:47 PM
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to order, my paypal addy is
payments@secondskinaudio.com
or you can use bidpay.com
use the credit card to buy a money order on lin (bidpay is western union) they send me the money order an d notification of payment.
I send your otem out
ANT
payments@secondskinaudio.com
or you can use bidpay.com
use the credit card to buy a money order on lin (bidpay is western union) they send me the money order an d notification of payment.
I send your otem out
ANT
12-15-2003, 10:49 PM
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! kit will do 4 doors nicely. I have about 40 feet in each of my doors and they are dead as can be.
1 kit for 4 dours would give you a bit more than 12 feet in each door. thats not too bad..
Thurdays payments is OK
ANT
ANT
1 kit for 4 dours would give you a bit more than 12 feet in each door. thats not too bad..
Thurdays payments is OK
ANT
ANT
12-15-2003, 11:24 PM
#72
Originally Posted by second skin rep
! kit will do 4 doors nicely. I have about 40 feet in each of my doors and they are dead as can be.
1 kit for 4 dours would give you a bit more than 12 feet in each door. thats not too bad..
Thurdays payments is OK
ANT
1 kit for 4 dours would give you a bit more than 12 feet in each door. thats not too bad..
Thurdays payments is OK
ANT
12-22-2003, 04:45 PM
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Yeah. next week will be fine.
just so everyone knows, I still need people to test ou tthe liquid damper for me, as well as my new closed cell foam; black bologna.
if anyone wants to be a test dummy for some new second skin products email me.
I can give them away for free, but how does 70% off sound?
ANT
just so everyone knows, I still need people to test ou tthe liquid damper for me, as well as my new closed cell foam; black bologna.
if anyone wants to be a test dummy for some new second skin products email me.
I can give them away for free, but how does 70% off sound?
ANT
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