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GAUGING INTEREST ON HIDtech Bi-Xenon Projectors (VOTE IF YOU ARE 90-100% definite)

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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 07:06 PM
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GAUGING INTEREST ON HIDtech Bi-Xenon Projectors (VOTE IF YOU ARE 90-100% definite)

Ok, I just received an email from Sean at Hidtech and he's willing to do a group deal for us depending on how many numbers we have that are interested in his projector headlights. He did an amazing job on soulprtore (sp?) and i want the same setup but cant/refuse to pay 800 dollars. Its a lot of money and if we can make a big show he may give us a good deal. But there are different setups we can do.

Setup 1: Those who already have HIDS can keep their ballasts and buy just the headlight/projector setup with D2S bulbs and keep their ballast. This still includes the E shrouds, wiring harness and all, just no ballast and probably no D2S bulb if you can get it cheaper somewhere else.

Setup 2: Those who have nothing at all will have to go for full setup which includes headlight/projector install, D2S ballast and bulbs, E shrouds, and wiring harness.

With this setup we will have to get our own headlights or send him ours and be without a car for a week to maybe up to a month if not more (since he'll be doing an entire batch). So we are basically paying for projectors, wiring harness, labor, e shroud, and D2S bulbs/ballasts (optional)

I need to get a number of how many people would be interested in each setup. Obviously a lot of you arent definite unless the price is right for you, so we're all going to have to come to an understanding of what we believe is reasonable. I would say a group deal with everything including, i would hope to pay less than 600. Depending if we take some parts off or not should vary the price.

VOTE ONLY IF YOU ARE ALMOST DEFINITE ABOUT GETTING THESE, and the ONLY thing stopping you is if PRICE IS WAY OVER YOUR LEAGUE

This is not a poll to see which is better but so i can bring back a good number to him and give him an idea of the interest and see what he can do on pricing. PLEASE POST ANY AN ALL FEEDBACK YOU GUYS HAVE. I'm hoping to have a good number for him by like monday latest.

BTW, ALSO leave a post saying your interested and you want to be put on the list. All votes that are not on the list will not count
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 07:10 PM
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If anyone wants to see how these headlights will look, go to www.HIDtech.com

then go to projects

then go to 99 nissan maxima

I think they look great and i'm definitely down to get a set if we can get them cheap enough. These look the best out of all the different setups i've seen and out of all the people that have sold a set, these are the only people that have not gotten a complaint.

They are also in NY which is a state away (2 hours tops away) so no major worries about getting jipped.
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 07:17 PM
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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I would also be in if the price is right. I would hope that it wouldnt take more than a month to get our lights back because my maxima is my only car. And I have to drive back and forth to college. But anyway Im in if the price is right and the turnaround time is fast.
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 07:43 PM
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here are the pictures, these guys do great work.







Old Feb 20, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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Lets see what the prices are and I might be down.
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 08:03 PM
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Old Feb 20, 2004 | 09:03 PM
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Hi guys hope you get enough people so you can get a great deal. I post night pics with bean patterns about 20 pics enjoy and best of luck with this. Anything I can help with let me know.
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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yeah, if you guys need any help, i'm here too. Soul knows more as far as HIDtech is concerned, but if you have any other questions, i'm here
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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price would be a big factor for me too
Old Feb 20, 2004 | 10:47 PM
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Lets see what the prices are and I might be down.


I don't want to say yes then back out when it comes to a final price of $900 or something.
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if the price is right, I'm in.
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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if the price is rite im in as well...
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 01:15 AM
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Count me in! Im a poor college student barely getting by but ill scroung up the dough somewhere. These lights just look too good!
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Originally Posted by Weasel


I don't want to say yes then back out when it comes to a final price of $900 or something.
i totally understand. Its the same with me as well. Thats why I want everyone to only vote if pricing is only thing stopping them.
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 05:30 AM
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im down , but what exaclty is "price is right to everyone else" cause im ballin on a budget here.
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 06:18 AM
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Count me in to if the price is right i want better lighting
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 07:00 AM
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 07:34 AM
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ok we'd all be in if the price is right. is there a ballpark estimate you could give us if say we had

5 people in: 700
10 people in: 650
20 people in:500

you know something along those lines maybe?
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Torgus
ok we'd all be in if the price is right. is there a ballpark estimate you could give us if say we had

5 people in: 700
10 people in: 650
20 people in:500

you know something along those lines maybe?
If we get a few hundred people I might be able to afford it.
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Torgus
ok we'd all be in if the price is right. is there a ballpark estimate you could give us if say we had

5 people in: 700
10 people in: 650
20 people in:500

you know something along those lines maybe?
There's no way in hell they'll go anywhere near those #'s...
Old Feb 21, 2004 | 07:21 PM
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Can I just buy the clear 97-99 clear headlights and get it shipped to them? I have a '95 gxe BTW and I hate the semi-translucent look right now! Hopefully I wouldn't have to switch the grill/bumper as well...

Oh ya, if the price is right I'm in.

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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rowan
Can I just buy the clear 97-99 clear headlights and get it shipped to them? I have a '95 gxe BTW and I hate the semi-translucent look right now! Hopefully I wouldn't have to switch the grill/bumper as well...

Oh ya, if the price is right I'm in.

-Rowan
I did that, and you don't have to change grills. The holes on the tabs where you screw into the grill is different on a 99 then a 95, but thats easy to fix.
Just line up the holes according to you grill and screw right through. No damage and it fits great.
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There's no way in hell they'll go anywhere near those #'s...
well there price is about 800 something after you buy headlights and ship to them. I guess most of us can use our headlights and go some time without them. Either way, not counting price of headlights, you can say regular price is about 700 something already. I'm hoping if we get 50 people or around that, the price would be knocked down to 450-550 for complete set, not including price of headlights. And depending on how much less people we get varies price. Once again, i have not given him any prices, just told him interest and i think i threw in price of what uminitza was looking for (500-600 price range). We'll just have to wait and see. I'm only seeing about 20 people thus far. If you guys can spread the word it would be well appreciated.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 12:48 AM
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well there price is about 800 something after you buy headlights and ship to them. I guess most of us can use our headlights and go some time without them. Either way, not counting price of headlights, you can say regular price is about 700 something already. I'm hoping if we get 50 people or around that, the price would be knocked down to 450-550 for complete set, not including price of headlights.
I'm tellin ya dude, there's no way they're gonna go that low! Like my Dad used to say, you can hope in one hand and sheet in the other... see which fills up faster. They may go from $850 to maybe $750 but that's as low as they'll probably go...

Originally Posted by meccanoble
And depending on how much less people we get varies price. Once again, i have not given him any prices, just told him interest and i think i threw in price of what uminitza was looking for (500-600 price range). We'll just have to wait and see. I'm only seeing about 20 people thus far. If you guys can spread the word it would be well appreciated.
The only thing that'll save you money is if you:
a) already have a HID ballast (then you need D2S bulbs and projectors)
b) don't want OEM looking bezels (translated as CHEAP bezels)
c) already have the HID hardware and only need to pay labor

Personally, I feel I can do this because all myself it's really just using a dremel to open up the rear of the light housing and then mounting the bulb and wiring to the back of the light.

They're never going to slash their prices in half (50%!) from $850 to $400 just for a group deal. With GD's all you save is around 10-20% depending on the # of buyers... sorry to burst your bubble...
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I'm tellin ya dude, there's no way they're gonna go that low! Like my Dad used to say, you can hope in one hand and sheet in the other... see which fills up faster. They may go from $850 to maybe $750 but that's as low as they'll probably go...



The only thing that'll save you money is if you:
a) already have a HID ballast (then you need D2S bulbs and projectors)
b) don't want OEM looking bezels (translated as CHEAP bezels)
c) already have the HID hardware and only need to pay labor

Personally, I feel I can do this because all myself it's really just using a dremel to open up the rear of the light housing and then mounting the bulb and wiring to the back of the light.

They're never going to slash their prices in half (50%!) from $850 to $400 just for a group deal. With GD's all you save is around 10-20% depending on the # of buyers... sorry to burst your bubble...
i feel you, 50% of sounds a little unreasonable but i think its still possible, or atleast highly possible to get more than 20% off. We're not talking about a pretty big group deal but people are will be spending over 400 for this. I dont know, we'll see i guess, but we gotta start somewhere.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 06:36 AM
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Man those look sweet! I would definitely be interested if thepirce drops a bit!
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those are gona be sweet but the price isnt right for my pockets.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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You see what I'm sayin? Every reply has been, "Sweet lights, I'll be in for sure... if the price drops. It aint gonna drop. It's gonna be $450 if you do it yourself just fo the parts alone! They're chargin another $300 to assemble it for you. If you can find free:

ballasts
bulbs
harnesses
wiring
projectors
bezels

THEN it'll be only $300. Even if they agree to a GD, I don't see it going for any less than $700, and Umnitza has all but given up. He can even make the friggen projector FIT into the housing even though it's been done before. He's looking for excuses now to get out of making them. You're going to have to just swallow and drop the 8 bills to get these done. You should be glad it's only $800, a new set of OEM Audi or BMW lights w/HIDs is almost $2,000...
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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Hey guys I emailed Sean at Hidtech.com and this is the response I got......

Hi Jason,

To be honest with you. At the beginning of our retrofit, we have unlimited supply of Hella xenon components. that's why we used to have our price down to 750-800 range. The xenon compoents price will go up in about 1-2 months. We have inside information that Hella will stop produce its most popular type of ballasts, which is Hella generation 3. So that's the best price we can do as of now, because you can't get it elsewhere.

You are correct about $950 for the member who has only headlamps. That's including return shipping.

For those member who has ballasts will only need to purchase Bixenon projectors and D2S bulbs from us. ($300 parts only, not including anything else.)

My boss is on a business trip to Austria. We will ask him if we can give any group discount to Maxima.Org. Most likely it won't be much of difference. We also welcome people to buy their own xenon components from Junk yard or Ebay, so the complete project will only be $500 for our labor, cosmetic trim. plug and play wiring harness.

Let me know if you have any other input for this project.

Sean
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Stringztoo
You see what I'm sayin? Every reply has been, "Sweet lights, I'll be in for sure... if the price drops. It aint gonna drop. It's gonna be $450 if you do it yourself just fo the parts alone! They're chargin another $300 to assemble it for you. If you can find free:

ballasts
bulbs
harnesses
wiring
projectors
bezels

THEN it'll be only $300. Even if they agree to a GD, I don't see it going for any less than $700, and Umnitza has all but given up. He can even make the friggen projector FIT into the housing even though it's been done before. He's looking for excuses now to get out of making them. You're going to have to just swallow and drop the 8 bills to get these done. You should be glad it's only $800, a new set of OEM Audi or BMW lights w/HIDs is almost $2,000...



you guys have to realize what is involved in this mod. How much did people use to pay for the 9004 HID kit when they came out? $400-500. And all you got was some cheap knock offs of the technology that where made in Asia.

With this mod you get genuine German made products that are made for OEM, you also have to add projectors that cost an additional $150-200.

And finally you have to understand the idea of supply and demand as well as mass production vs. custom work. There is no way right now to make a lot of these to bring the price down, regardless of the demand (especially when the demand if for a very low price).

I hope that the price goes down m but you have to see what hidtech decides to do.
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 11:32 AM
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Do they include Angle Eyes with this project or no ??

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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Do they include Angle Eyes with this project or no ??

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nah, its expensive as it already is, not trying to add anything else.

Dam, the turn about i expected is not as heavy as i anticipated. With the feedback shown and the reality checks thrown at me, i'm definitely not feeling optomistic about this. I'm going to send HIDtech an email tonight to see what they'll do for us and see what he can do for me on an individual level while i get everything myself except e shrouds, and labor. What projectors do he use BTW?

I could easily get my hands on J30 projectors but after speaking to a good friend on here, he let me know they arent that great...so...i guess i'll have to wait and see...
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Originally Posted by nissanfreak
Hi Jason,

To be honest with you. At the beginning of our retrofit, we have unlimited supply of Hella xenon components. that's why we used to have our price down to 750-800 range. The xenon compoents price will go up in about 1-2 months. We have inside information that Hella will stop produce its most popular type of ballasts, which is Hella generation 3. So that's the best price we can do as of now, because you can't get it elsewhere.

You are correct about $950 for the member who has only headlamps. That's including return shipping.

For those member who has ballasts will only need to purchase Bixenon projectors and D2S bulbs from us. ($300 parts only, not including anything else.)

My boss is on a business trip to Austria. We will ask him if we can give any group discount to Maxima.Org. Most likely it won't be much of difference. We also welcome people to buy their own xenon components from Junk yard or Ebay, so the complete project will only be $500 for our labor, cosmetic trim. plug and play wiring harness.

Let me know if you have any other input for this project.

Sean
Wow... is there such thing as an echo on the internet... This is going to be a $750-$1,000 mod for anyone who wants to do this. You wanna spend $400? Buy the parts off eBay and do it yourself. It's quite a feeling when you create something yourself. There's a feeling of accomplishment. I've already lined up getting the parts for $400. That's everything including bezels. Drill a larger hole, seal off and insert the projectors. Wire it up, your set. It may not look exactly like those from HIDtech.com, but they'll work and look good none the less. I knew all along you couldn't get this done for the $400-$500 range, even if you had 200 people in on the GD...
Old Feb 22, 2004 | 11:38 PM
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 11:50 PM
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well... i think this speaks for itself
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 01:07 AM
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I am in if I could see the beam pattern these have like on a wall and maybe even on the roadway.."at night of course" Thanx a mil. and also i heard high beams are bye bye.. maybe not wirth losing my high beams.. too many dear here to dodge them with low beams...
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I see that Mad-MAX_SE has pictures of the beam pattern, but i had to ask him about the beam pattern.. it seems on his cardomain site, has 2 pics of them against a wall.. and well i wanted to know if one was high beam and the other one was low beam... I pm'ed him so ppl know.. or maybe someone else has pics of them beinglow/high beam up on a wall, and on a street.. like maybe from the drivers seat, and outside of car.. that would be great.. I have just heard the the high beams are bye bye, but that is why i asked...

Thanx alot ppl,
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hear is his site...
http://www.cardomain.com/id/madmax95gxe I do believe page 4...
sorry for takin your site for information hope you don't mind
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