Well I have been out in the garage installing my Cefiros on my rebuilder, a 99 I30 Limited . Got them on the last group deal from Paradox. Have to say they really updated the looks of the car, really like the look. They came with a pig tail for headlights which makes things easer, but unfortunaly there are no pig tails for the turn signals and runing lights . I can make them work with duck tape and baling wire but the actual connectors would be alot cleaner install.Some time ago someone on E-Bay was selling some Cefiro's and had a write-up telling which pig tails to get, came off a Honda if my memory is right, but that is all I can remmber. Do'es anybody have any idea , part number or where to get the right pig tails ?

 

If I knew what pig tails were I could probably help. I need no special parts for my one-piece install.

 

A pig tail is a electical connector with a few inches of wire that you splice into your existing harness. Usually you are replacing a bad one but in this case I need them to match the ones on the headlights. The headlights came with a connector (pig tail) for the high and low beams but nothing for the turn signals or day time running lights. Thanks, Rick

 

I used the stock ones for the turn signals and running lights.

 

I ended up doing the same , with a little triming here and there I got the orignal sockets to plug into the the turn signal openings.As for the main lights I tinned about 3/8 inch of bare wire and pluged them into the orignal connector and sealed the end with silicon . This looks like it will work until I can come up with a better idea.

 

 

Sorry, spent all my money putting the car backtogether. Before and after pic's would have been nice. Digital cam is on my Xmas whish list.

 

so, you did get the cefiro corner light to plug up to the factory turn signal plug? What did you have to do to make it work? My headlights didn't have any sort of harness for the headlight bulb. I guess I will just cut and splice my HIDs in. Does anyone know which wire is hi, which is lo, and which is ground for the headlights?

 

The Cefiro turn signal has a 4 prong detent. Line up the 4 prongs push in and turn. But! it is not that simple, your original only has 3 prongs it will not fit into the Cefiro light. I modified the headlamp opening with a utility knife so it would except the 3 prongs of the original. You have to be carefull one of the openings has a stop and you want to keep that one intact so the light plug will tighten up when you turn it. As for the color coding I will have to look tomorrow.

 

I noticed that problem as well. That's why I didn't buy the ones that have been on the group deals. How is the fitment by the way? I bought some that were not OEM long ago, and it had some fitment issues.

 

It very eazy to make the stock turn signals fit into the one piece headlights.
My OE cefiro one piece headlights fit perfectly.

 

You have to realize I am working on a rebuilder and have been using after-market parts . Radiator support, hood, fenders, everything up front has been replaced. With after-market parts you usualy have fitment problems and you are never to sure if it is the part or you dont have the car pulled back into shape quite right. The headlights fit real good . If I remmber right I had to alongate a couple of the the mounting holes in the raditor support and that was about it . They fit into the fenders and up against the hood like they belong there.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Drew96I30


so, you did get the cefiro corner light to plug up to the factory turn signal plug? What did you have to do to make it work? My headlights didn't have any sort of harness for the headlight bulb. I guess I will just cut and splice my HIDs in. Does anyone know which wire is hi, which is lo, and which is ground for the headlights? [/QUOTE

blue/black on the right yellow/green on the left, these are the center wires in the harness and should be the grounds. I put mine to the center terminals on the lights . The other two I played with one light at a time until they worked right.]

 

so, what exactly do I need to do to get these two plugs to fit together?

 

Hmmm...I am a little confused. What plugs are those exactly? Are you showing me an HID set up or the H4 harness?
The way mine came, I had the H4 haness with 3 wires commin out the back. I just cut the stock harness and connected the correct wires together. I had no plugs like that.

 

thats for the corner lamp...i am going to cut and splice the HID kit into the factory wiring. I just can't figure out the turn signals. The plug on the right is for the bulb from the cefiro headlamp. The plug on the left is the factory connector for the corner lamp.

 

The cefiro's I got do not come with turn signal lights, your supposed to use the stock turn signal lights. They come with "city" lights that plug into the headlight housing.

 

now i am really confused, maybe i am using the wrong term. I am talking about the plug for the #1157 amber bulb that is in the corner of the housing.

 

OK, let take it from the top. There are three bulbs in the entire cefiro one-piece headlight setup.
1. The headlight, self explanitory
2. The "city light", located next to the headlight in the headlight housing
3. Turn signal. located in the corner of the one piece headlights.

The headlights should have came with two bulbs, the headlight and city light. No turn signal bulb or harness, we use the stock bulb and harness for the turn signal.

 

ahhhh, i see what you're saying. I will try and use the stock bulb and harness from my factory turn signals. I was trying to plug the cefiro bulb into the factory harness. Thats why I posted that pic, the two didn't work together.

 

When you attempt to put the factory turn signal into the cefrio's you will find that it won't go in right. That is when you have to use a utility knife to change the opening so the notches line up correctly.

 

Finally, there is someone out there like me. (having the same problems installing Cefrio one piece headlights at least)

Ok, So you have to take the wiring out of the OEM Turn/Parking signal light fixture (once it's removed) and use that in the new Cefiro Headlights? This way you don't have to use the Cefiro's adaptors (which come with the lights, and was in the picture on the message above comparing the two adaptors that don't fit) and you can plug the OEM Turn/Parking lightbulbs into the Cefiro headlights and still use the OEM harness, without splicing the wires, correct?

Also, I had 9004 lightbulbs in my OEM headlights, will these fit into the Cefiro headlights, and why are people using the H4's instead?

 

You are on the right track , just be carefull with utility knife the Cefiro housings cut fairly easley. You want to keep them water tight as possible. I used the bulbs that came with the Cefiro headlights.

 

ok, i trimmed down the socket on the cefiro housing so that I could use the original turn signal harnesses. Now, what do I do with the "city light". The USDM headlights have 2 bulbs in the corner lamp. Do I cut and splice the city light into the factory wiring?

 

I don't have my city lights hooked up yet. I think you will have to find a fusable link that goes hot when you start the car. My rebuilder's lights were broken up. I don't know what that light does , if it is the park lamp you will have to turn your park lights on to get it to light up, this also turns on your tail lights which you don't want. You might want to subscribe to AllData.com they have all the diagrams and repair info .

 

"Drew96i30" has a picture of the back of his Cefiro headlights. I figured that the wiring part of it was the same as mine, but my headlights have a different form to them on the back of them. They have 3 different spots for all three lights (headlight,city lamp (small wedge light located right next to headlight in same housing), and the turn signal) "Drew96i30" has only 2 places for light bulbs. Is this just because we have different structured Cefiro headlights in the back of them? Finally, both of my headlights came with a round black rubber seal. However, when I try to fit the seal over the 9004 original OEM lightbulbs, the small dime size hole in the middle of the rubber seal won't fit over the 9004 bulb, is this normal? I looked at the H4 bulbs and they are just as thick, same problem.

Thanks,
Brad

 

My cefiro headlights have 3 places for bulbs. I think that you should really use H4 bulbs with the headlamps. That little black plug in the picture is for my city light.

 

In that case, what did you do for a park lamp? That stray bulb hanging from my factory wiring in that picture is the parking light. Does the corner light light up when you turn on the headlights?

 

Did you have to cut anything out of your Cefiro Headlight with a utility knife and if so why?

Also, how well does the black rubber sealant cover the H4 type light bulbs?

Did you use the H4 adaptor/harness to connect to the cars OEM harness by cutting the cars OEM harness off and slicing the new wires from the H4 adaptor to it, in order to run the headlights?

Thanks,
Brad

 

Is the city lights what we call 'running lights'? And do they hookup to our current wires? In Canada we _must_ have running lights, is this an issue at all in the conversion? What is the difference between H4 and 9004?

 

 

I bought the H4 lightbulbs and they have 3 metal prongs on them. The metal prongs looks like a upside down U. They don't fit into the cars factory harness like the 9004 headlight lightbulbs did. How do I make the H4 bulbs work? Also, someone told me that the 3 prongs stand for High beam, Low beam, and a ground. What color represents what on the cars OEM harness??

 

go to a junkyard and get H4 "pigtails". You can get them off a lot of cars, like civics, jeep wranglers, blah blah. If you don't have a junk yard close by, just go to an auto parts store. As far as which wire is which, I'm not sure, I know rixs said something earlier about it in this thread.

 

Ok guys, I need help now, same position as you For the corner light, I should use the original corner light wiring for it right? How do you remove it from the corner light without breaking it off? I pry and pry and I don't want to damage my originals incase I go back. I guess it's no big deal if it hangs anyway so I'll probably end up breaking it off.

what to do about the city light? I think here in Canada we pretty much need it, what could I splice into? Do those hook up to my DRL controller? I was under the impression the DRL is hooked up to the 9004 harness, and provides a small feed so that it lights up during the day. Will that feed go into my new H4 bulb and be able to light it up for DRL? Does this make my city light unnecessary?

Lastly, parking light, does it just hang or do you hook that up to the city light? Seems strange no one updated the thread.

Please help I want to get these installed asap

 

Use the entire stock harness for the turn signal/corner light. You just have to modify the opening so it will fit right.

For the city light, cut the harness off the stock smaller corner bulb. Cut the harness off the city light bulb. Connect the wires.

 

Thanks MikeD! I'll be installing it sometime very soon. They are soo sweet I can't wait

 

If you happen to have a chance to take picture on the beam patterns, please share with us. Thanks

 

No problem. I have some news on this though. I was doing research to ensure the taiwan cefiro headlamp I got was really LHD. I spoke to a leading consultant on lighting his name is Daniel Stern, very helpful guy and I'm sure some of you have heard of him before.

I sent him pictures of my headlamps, and he says they _are_ definately LHD so nothing to worry about. I asked him how does he know from pictures both sides look the same to me. Here's his answer:
The only thing that may get you in trouble is that the H4 bulb has a shield so there's a very sharp cutoff (european style). If you're worried about that then you can replace the bulb with a 9003/HB2 bulb which is the US spec for an H4 bulb. Beyond that it's perfectly legal and LHD!

One thing he recommended though is a 9004 to H4 conversion kit. It has relays and uses your factory harness. He says because the factory wiring isn't big enough to give your bulb power, it is very recommended. You can check his site search yahoo for dan stern.

Personally for now I'm just going to splice into the 9004 wiring with an H4 pigtail, because in canada we need to have DRL. This way I'll still have DRL (daytime running lights) without buying a kit to replace the factory DRL functionality.

Anyways I have the pigtails woohoo! Damn the turn signal it's a *****! I want to keep the stopper, and if I do that it looks like I will have to make two notches to make the factory bulb fit. I think I may splice into the wiring and solder it into the factory pigtail that came with my cefiro housings.

Lastly I'm hooking the parking light into the city light by splicing wires aswell. Daniel says that in Europe it's illegal to have amber city lights and that's why they have the city light there. It's basically the same thing but different spot and color. He says it's much better to have the city lights as if you're headlight burns out you can switch to parking lights and it won't look so bad to other drivers.

Hope this clears up some things. I'll quote Daniel sometime if needed but let's just say he's a smart guy.

 

hey I30TMikeD, you think the cefiro headlights warrant a write up (for boneheads like me)? I'll be willing to snap some pics this week when I put in the HIDs if anyone wants to do a write up.

--Drew

 

I think it would be very good to have a write up in the FAQ's. I was going to do one the other day, but I am just so busy with school and work and a good detailed write up would take a me a while. It's been so long since I installed my lights that every time I'm asked a question I have to go out and look at the car. If you or anybody else would like to do one I'll put it in the FAQ's.