I have been working on trying to import Evolution A33 kit and reproducing it. However, I can not justify spending up to $2k just to bring one kit in (the cost of the kit is $8-900 alone), not knowing if it will sell.

What I am proposing is that those interested put up a deposit on their future kit ($100 or more) to help me bring this first kit into the US. I will then have it manufactured and those who helped will get what they contributed + an additional discount off their kit.

Final pricing should be the same as the A32 kit that I am coming out with next year. $700-750 for a full fiberglass kit.
(I am putting that there so people will know I am not trying to jack up the price)

This process should save everyone money (opposed to importing your own kit from JP or NZ)

Some thoughts please.

 

Sounds like a good ideal but there is one problem. Actually touching base with EVolution. I have tried desperately to touch base with them. They will not answer the telephone regardless what time I call them. And I can assure you they will not reply to your email at all. Thats pretty much the reason myself and others have decide to calaborate the group buy out of New Zealand. But if you can get Evolution yourself and can provide legal documentation with a Notary Republic approval for our protection, then I can say I would be willing.

 

I will keep trying but this can however also work for bringing in the NZ kit. Instead of everyone paying so much for shipping, we just need to get one kit here.
Legal documentation and notary public approval of what?
I run www.paradox-systems.com and people have fronted more money and waited longer for products from me (Cefiro parts GDs). If you mean protection from me running away with your money, I think enough people know of me and the local guys know where I live for it to be a safe investment.

 

Perhaps you don't know MaxMojo very well...

As for being able to get in contact with Evolution...I think he has as best a chance out of any of us at getting ahold of them. Remember, he's the one that's been able to get the m3 style lip spoilers and clear lenses from overseas for our cars, as well as kits for the A32 (which he is now reproducing) - something none of us were ever able to do.

And as for his honesty - flip through the group buy section and look at everything he's done. His customers are always satisfied, he always delivers, and he doesn't overcharge. I've bought from him on numerous occasions - through group buys before as well. You don't have anything to worry about in that regard.

 

I understand he has a great amount of respect here, but I can tell you that if anyone bases their decision on that, they are morons.

 

And people wonder why we never get anything for our cars...

When it comes to something like this - it seems that all anyone has is respect and reputation.

When the Max owners get together to get a part produced (i.e. 2k2 front aero lip) it's not unusual for 50 of them to have to pay in advance or put down a large deposit (sight unseen) to get it made. I fail to see how this is any different.

 

Its nothing to get offended over. As a potential customer of yours, I am entitled to be certain of my protection before engaging into and transaction where my money would be acquired before I recieve the goods in exchange.

Its good to have a great customer service satisfaction reputation but thats only by word of mouth. I am in no way insulting you here, but any business transaction has to have some type of documentation citing the deal at hand for the 1st and 2nd parties, the set price, the promissaries (if any) and of course the participants involved. The notary republic comes into play where someone certifies the legitimacy of the contract. (you know like BBB and such.) Or have a third party witness in case of a dispute among the contract. (most times a receipt with a money back guarantee takes care of this.) Thats all I am asking for. Excuse me if this sounds like legal jargon (I am studying law) but everyone needs security.

 

Meta, thats possibly different. There are reasons that could potentially alter the situation. FOr all we know these cats with the Maxima developments could all live within a 100 mile radius of each other. Where as in our case, well I am in Alabama, your in Tennesse, TheyCallMeSteel is living in Chi-town, and MaxMojo is in New York. Also, they probably are able to professionally install the equipment themselves. Me myself, I don't have access to a shop to do body work on a car, so I would leave it to local shops here to do the work for me. (I don't know about you guys but its really difficult finding a shop willing to install bodykits on a car that are not mass produced.)

 

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I am in no way offended by any of this, just somewhat put off. The questions you asked are by no means extraordinary. They are in fact quite normal. I have worked hard to develop a reputation on the Maxima forum as a honest vendor. One of the things that I hoped would arise from my developing that reputation is to avoid being placed in the same category of vendors who just sign up to peddle their wares and post for the first time. I started out on Maxima.org as just any other member, looking for advice/help and trying to find some bargains. I found myself after a while in a situation to help bring some new products to light and that's where I started. I am not here just to peddle wares. I read the forum every day looking for ways to fix / improve my Maxima. I participate in group deals and buy new or used items from other members and vendors alike.
If you look at my website, I almost solely sell Maxima/I30 products. To jeopardize my reputation and risk 90% of my business on a few bodykits is not what I am looking to do.

My contract to you and everyone else is this thread. Witnessed by other members. If I can not hold true to my word here, I lose respect in the eyes of my customers. At least that is how I view it. If things don't work out, money will be refunded. If you decide to participate now and back out later on, it will also not be a problem to refund your money. There are always people to fill a spot or two. I threw in that local people know me and where I live because, in other "I've been ripped off" threads, there's always someone who posts "Give me his address and I'll help you take care of it." I do not plan on ripping anyone off so there is no need for me to worry about that.

Further safety afforded to you is through paypal. That is how I do 99% of my business. I always ask GD participants to clearly spell out what they are paying for. That seems pretty binding to me. I do not want any cash send to me, no checks made out to me personally, or anything like that. This is all done through Paradox Systems.

As I mentioned, I participate in GDs regularly for Maxima parts and it seems to span across the country (Canada too in my experience). Local installation is rarely included in these deals. Local bodyshops should have no problem installing a bodykit designed for your car, mass produced or not. It should require the same amount of skill/time. If they are unable to, (and others have) its either faulty workmanship in the production of the kits (which I and the manufacturer will resolve) or they don't know what they are doing.

If after all this you still require something in writing, (and I have been unable to make the deal go through because I need one more person) I will see what I can do about getting something in writing and notarized for you.

 

I've made some progress in contacting Evolution.
Before I continue further, I need to know if there is any interest for me to proceed further. I don't want to go through all this if everyone just decides to do the NZ Group Buy.

 

I like the kit by Evolution, its a bit more luxurious. How much are we looking at for the kit once you process a demo kit?

 

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Appreciate that. So that will include shipping as well???

 

It will not include shipping. I have no idea of the size/weight so I can not calculate that right now.

 

I have confidence in you Max!! Count me in for the initial deposit. I think this idea is far superior to the NZ GB for several reasons:

1 - There are some SERIOUS fitment questions which we don't seem to have a way of resolving with the NZ GB. I, for one, DO NOT want to pay for the kit and shipping from NZ then the additional cost of modification to make the kit fit my US I30. Trust me, I have looked at this option and it is COST PROHIBITIVE!

2 - By having MaxMojo produce the replica kits stateside we DRAMATICALLY decrease shipping costs (plus i'm with Meta...I have looked at the GD's he has been involved in previously and all deals are fair and MaxMojo communicates well with customers)

3 - Max is a trusted member of the .org

4 - $100 is a relatively small price to pay upfront

This is a no-brainer for me Max...hmmm let's see....import 10 kits from NZ that might not fit OR import 1 kit and reproduce kits that will DEFINITELY fit.....like I said COUNT ME IN!

 

I was hoping for a little more interest, this is exactly why I didn't want to spend my own money getting this done if people aren't even going to buy it..

 

I am definitely interested in the kit. I would be willing to put up some cash, but my money is all tied up at the moment. If you still want to try to get this going in a couple of weeks you can count on me to make an investment. $100 sounds fine and I will be willing to put down more if needed (within reason).

I do have a question though. How long would you expect development to take after you get the kit?

Thank you for trying to get this done. I personally love the kit.

C'mon people! Where is all of the initial interest from the NZ Kit. This one will actually fit! Don't let this slip away, we need something to really set us apart from all the Old lady I30s out there.

 

Once I get the kit from Japan to the US or Taiwan (which ever way Evolution is willing to do) it should take about 1 month to produce the first batch. So expect that you can buy the kits 2 months after I get them shipped from Japan.

 

Thats not bad at all. Now lets see if we can get this deal to go through.

 

What I need are serious buyers who want to get them, not people who just wanna see if it happens. I have a means to contact Evolution but have been holding back because I am not going to bother if there is no interest in me getting this done.

 

I say once again..... I AM IN!!

Max - are you saying you need 20 deposits to get the 1st kit over here?

 

Ok, where to start..
This all started as a thread basically asking if people would be interested in putting down deposits towards developing the A33 kit. I asked this because the I30 people are not as numerous as the Maxima folk and do not modify as much. I would hate to invest all that money towards producing all these kits just to have it not sell. I wanted deposits just as a means of securing orders. With my manufacturers, there are minimums that I need to meet. I can not produce just 10 kits let's say. I need to order at least 50 probably. If I can get enough orders to offset the costs, I can produce the 50 and slowly sell them over time.
The point here is, I look at this not as a money making opportunity but as a chance to help some of you guys get a bodykit no one here seems to want to produce, hopefully making a few bucks along the way (or at least not lose anything).

Since some think this idea of a deposit is acceptable, let's get a list going to see who will actually follow through and I will work from there if I can afford this venture. (People who are 100% willing to put down $100 on their kit)

1. I30Boogie
2. NewLoveI30
3.


I've done some calculating and I probably will not be able to do this with anything less than 10 people.

Remember I have held off on talks with Evolution because I need more interest first. It will take approx 2 months from when I close the deal with Evolution to get your kits.

 

WooHoo!.. We got two. Rack em uup baby!!!

 

I'm just bumping this thread....hopefully we can get some A33 owners to sit up and take notice....

 

and another...C'MON GUYS!!! THIS IS A DEAL!!!!!!!! If you are looking for a way to set your I30 apart from the rest...HERE IT IS!!!!! *geez*

 

Well the new year is upon us. And if this deal does not go through then I guess we will have to reopen the group buy for the NZ body kit for the I30 and I35.

 

NEVER!!! That damn kit wont even fit right.

We finally get a chance to have a kit that will look great AND fit, and where does everybody go! This kit will probably even cost less. It seemed like there were quite a few people VERY interested in the NZ kit, which wouldent have even fit. WHERE DID ALL OF YOU GO???

 

Thats a good question? I mean I seriously believed we would finally get something for the Infiniti's that would add a sense of sport and style to the body. I know I asked a lot of questions, but anyone with common sense knows when it comes to money and buying something, one is entitled to be aware of what he is getting involved in. But I never said I am not game. So I suppose we wait.............................................. .................................................. ....

 

I really like the rear and sides, I'm not to crazy on the front. If you make this, I will be down for the rear at least.

 

I would make sure for certain that the kit is designed to fit a bumper like the one in the US, the Cefiro's that are imported into New Zealand from Japan have the exact same bumper styling as our Maximas, you can't tell them apart unless you see the different names on them. Unless Nissan New Zealand changes the styling on them to look like the Maxima once they come from Japan, which I don't think is likely since most imports are done privately and would cost to much for the private importers to change the style of every Cefiro that they import, and they'd probably go the whole way and re-badge them with Maxima tags.

So, just be weary of that and make sure you are getting what is pictured

 

by the way, just cause I only like the back doesnt mean I wont end up with the whole kit, which means, I am willing to put money up.

 

Ok, I've worked things out. I can get the NZ version of the Evolution kit for you guys. $700 plus shipping for first 10 people willing to leave $350 deposit. $750 + shipping afterwards. (Not including paypal fees, so check or money order will be cheaper)

It will take 6 weeks to get to me.

This will only happen if I can get 10 people to leave deposits because it does not seem like a worthwhile risk for me. I'll only do it if people really want the kits.

 

GREAT NEWS!!! So does this mean you are still doing the "US conversion" once you receive the NZ kit? I think there are some fitment issues between the NZ kit and or US I30's (correct em if I'm wrong). If you are still planning on making the mods to the kit - any idea how long we we are looking at before a completed product is ready to ship to us? (i know that quest is premature....but I was just wondering) Thanks for sticking with this Max!!

 

I will have the kit tested as soon as I receive the first one. It should be an exact fit and if so, 6 weeks after I get this started (10 people w/ deposits) it will be ready to be shipped. If modification is needed, expect an extra week or so.

 

Woha, Woha, Woha!!! Max,

You are trying to import and replicate the NZ kit now! If I am jumping to conclusions please stop me. Sorry guys but I am not interested in the NZ kit. If we are not using the Japanese kit I will NOT be putting down a deposit. If it is about money, I will be happy to put down a larger deposit, as long as it is for the Japanese Evolution kit.

 

Dont the two kits look the same?

I have had no luck with Evolution in Japan. NZ is cheaper, would get it faster, and better all around.

 

Wow, That was quick.

Anyhou, Have you seen both the kits? The NZ kity looks kinda ricer to me. The NZ kit has flairs that come up on the side of the front bumper, and the rear skirt looks totaly different.

I wish I knew how to post pics so I could compare the two. Just look at the NZ Group Buy sticky and use the link on the first post to see at the front and back of the Japanese kit , and then look at the front/back pics of the NZ kit in the same thread.

Personally, I think the Evo. Kit just looks more classy and suits the I30 better.

PS. Anyone who can post the pics together for comparison would be very helpful.

 

I'm sorry, you are correct. I am not sure which pics I was looking at to think they were the same.
Unfortunately, Evolution is not willing to export their kits at this time to me. The NZ kit is the only one I can get. This will only happen if people want it and willing to put a deposit down to ensure that they are willing to go through with it.

 

NOOOOOOO!!!

All my hopes and dreams... Shattered to pieces! Oh cruel world

Well, If it comes down to one person needed to import the NZ kit I might be convinced to help out, But I dont think I will be buying the kit.

P.S. Thank you MaxMoJo for all your time and effort.