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Old Oct 8, 2004 | 09:27 AM
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Bought something better than stock. Also wishlist

Bought Silverstars for my car from ebay for under 20 bux I guess these are better than stock halogens. Is this a mod ? I don't know!

Anyone second the opinion that these are better than stock ones ?!?

I'd want to do HID with projectors down the line or may be one-piece cefiros, but it will take time. Got to do the following now that i'm approaching 120k, or atleast because I have crossed 100k! I bought it when it had 96k miles and don't know what maintenance the previous owner did.

1. Suspension - it's shot almost!
2. Radiator stuff - recently gave me problems with overheating but now it's back to normal! Miraculously!!
3. Spark plugs
4. Tires and so alignment.
5. Fuel Filter
6. Power Steering fluid change
7. Brakes
8. Brake fluid change
9. Cabin air filter
10. O2 sensor and/or Knock Sensor (I guess they are still the factory ones)
11. Clean Throttle body

Only things I did so far are
1. Transmission flush and fill
2. Air Filter

Want to add front and rear strut bars as well, will do it along with new suspension.

Counting one by one
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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Yeah, I had these as well and I think they are better than stock. They are definately whiter than stock by far.
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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But then again, he's still using 9004 so, its not as white/bright as it could be had he be using H4 with our one-piece headlights. Also my car has lots of miles too, but you don't really need to do much to it unless you have problems with certain things. Knock or o2 sensor only replace if you get the error message on ur ECU and brakes only pads need replacement. Just trying to save you from doing unneccesary maintenance, but things like oil, filters, and spark plugs are a must.
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 08:48 PM
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Speaking of Bulbs, what are the whitest H4 bulbs we can get right now for our Cefiro headlights? I would like to get as close to HID with H4's as possible.

Thanks.
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 08:55 PM
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I think the PIAA's are, but then again, they are the most expensive, or the company of Slyvania's OSRAM directly from germany's bulbs are said to be super bright and white also. Both are way to expensive, I'm going to get HID's I think its worth the extra $150 for the real thing.
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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yeah, it probably is worth it to go ahead and get the HID's. I was just curious if there were any really white bulbs out there that were say, less than $50 per pair.

Old Oct 8, 2004 | 09:47 PM
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I heard in couple of threads in 4th gen that we shud replace KS even if we don't get codes but when we have more miles on the car! Isn't that true ?

Thanks for the advice anzdude! I would still want to get as many things done as needed so that I get a feel of new car

All that HIDs for Cefiros is greek and latin to me ... atleast until i buy them .. but i'd rather get the bi-xenon projectors with HIDs
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 10:01 PM
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I would not replace the knock sensor unless your getting the 0304 code or the resistance is not within spec. Just changing it for the sake of chaning it makes no sense.
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 10:40 PM
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Raybrig...best lights out there but wayy expensive goto www.hidplace.com. great quality kits for a great price...i figured by the time u blow all those bulbs, because they never last a long time u could just get an HID kit
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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I think the very first page in maxima.org says a big NO to HID kits. As well, I heard many in 4th gen saying that HID kits suck ... best way is to get bi-xenon projectors ...

Btw, here is the comparison of silverstars and stocks ... I'm just storing the stock bulbs just in case the silvestars blow in 6 months as predicted by many in 4th gen. Anyways, I don't drive much in the night ... so let's see ... i'll try to re-open this thread after the first silverstar blows-off!

Stock: http://www.geocities.com/funloverthere/Photos/car17.jpg
Silverstar: http://www.geocities.com/funloverthere/Photos/car18.jpg

Left one is Silverstar and right-side (in the picture as you see) is Stock:
http://www.geocities.com/funloverthere/Photos/car19.jpg

Can you see the difference in the third pic ?!?
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 06:48 PM
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HID Headlights/Projectors and bulbs

Originally Posted by flthere
I think the very first page in maxima.org says a big NO to HID kits. As well, I heard many in 4th gen saying that HID kits suck ... best way is to get bi-xenon projectors ...

Btw, here is the comparison of silverstars and stocks ... I'm just storing the stock bulbs just in case the silvestars blow in 6 months as predicted by many in 4th gen. Anyways, I don't drive much in the night ... so let's see ... i'll try to re-open this thread after the first silverstar blows-off!

Stock: http://www.geocities.com/funloverthere/Photos/car17.jpg
Silverstar: http://www.geocities.com/funloverthere/Photos/car18.jpg

Left one is Silverstar and right-side (in the picture as you see) is Stock:
http://www.geocities.com/funloverthere/Photos/car19.jpg

Can you see the difference in the third pic ?!?

OK, there seems to be a myth being spread around regarding HID conversion kits. Firstly those who have converted their stock headlights to HID failed to mention that they probably choose a higher K temperature output, like 6000k to 10000k which is actually the worst. The higher the temperature, the worse the output, it's as if the light is not being focused properly and is just all over the place because we're using reflector headlight housings. Yes, projectors would fix this problem, but there's a reason why all HID standard automakers use 4100k-4300k (phillips or similar) bulbs in their HID projection lights. It's because it produces the greatest/brightest/furthest/most controlled and even lighting luminosity. People who know lighting in this field would agree with you.
I used to think before doing some research that those really bright looking blue or purple lights looked so cool, but that's wrong as those are the highest K temperature bulbs - which means loss of visability even or worse yet: blinding to others. It's going to take a lot of money and/or time and work into retro-fitting our headlights, whether H4 or 9004 with projectors and if I had the know-how would've done it already. Projectors give out a VERY even beam of light with a cut-off that prevents blinding other motorists (and guess what, never would they use those 7000k blueish bulbs in those babies. only lower temp, D2S or D2R bulbs 4100k-5300k). It would be much more economical to actually retro-fit some other headlight assembly with projectors and ballasts built in, like someone did with BMW 5-Series lights. Just buy them, and have a body shop cut the fenders and hood to fit them. But for now, I'm sticking with my H4 slyvania silverstars since they do the job pretty well, actually much better than my 9004 buibs (no matter what type/brand I bought.) I think the reason why they didn't seem to make any difference, 'fithere' is that they're still 9004 bulbs and are inferior to the newer ones available. But with all that said, I'm still going to purchase a kit for the heck of it as soon as the money situation goes away, but 5100k would be the highest I go. *I'd like to have a hint of blue* And in the future, attain one of the newer generation Maxima's as they seem more and more classier.

Whew, enough blabbing about headlights, bulbs and projectors, anyone have or know where I can find a passenger side front cornering lamp (the one next to the foglight) from an 96-99 I30? Mine is cracked for some unknown reason and water is being collected inside, forcing the bulbs I keep changing to blow out. *Yes, I do see one on eBay, but it doesn't have to be new, I'd rather have a matching used corner light to go with the other one.

What's a bump? I'm new on forums and wondered why I keep seing people ask or give 'bumps'. If it means that what someone wrote is actually important and helpful, then give me a bump

And one more question, if they're ending the I30 line, are they really thinking that the new G35's are going to take its place? G35 sedans are not really that nice looking. Personally, I think they look like Altimas with over-emphasized lighting and a grille too wide and awkward looking (looks like a face with big old eyes and a huge smile).
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by azndude
OK, there seems to be a myth being spread around regarding HID conversion kits. Firstly those who have converted their stock headlights to HID failed to mention that they probably choose a higher K temperature output, like 6000k to 10000k which is actually the worst. The higher the temperature, the worse the output, it's as if the light is not being focused properly and is just all over the place because we're using reflector headlight housings. Yes, projectors would fix this problem, but there's a reason why all HID standard automakers use 4100k-4300k (phillips or similar) bulbs in their HID projection lights. It's because it produces the greatest/brightest/furthest/most controled and even lighting luminosity. People who know lighting in this field would agree with you.
I used to think before doing some research that those really bright looking blue or purple lights looked so cool, but that's wrong as those are the highest K temperature bulbs - which means loss of visability even or worse yet: blinding to others. It's going to take a lot of money and/or time and work into retro-fitting our headlights, whether H4 or 9004 with projectors and if I had the know-how would've done it already. Projectors give out a VERY even beam of light with a cut-off that prevents blinding other motorists (and guess what, never would they use those 7000k blueish bulbs in those babies. only lower temp, D2S or D2R bulbs 4100k-5300k). It would be much more economical to actually retro-fit some other headlight assembly with projectors and ballasts built in, like someone did with BMW 5-Series lights. Just buy them, and have a body shop cut the fenders and hood to fit them. But for now, I'm sticking with my H4 slyvania silverstars since they do the job pretty well, actually much better than my 9004 buibs (no matter what type/brand I bought.) I think the reason why they didn't seem to make any difference, 'fithere' is that they're still 9004 bulbs and are inferior to the newer ones available. But with all that said, I'm still going to purchase a kit for the heck of it as soon as the money situation goes away, but 5100k would be the highest I go. *I'd like to have a hint of blue* And in the future, attain one of the newer generation Maxima's as they seem more and more classier.

Whew, enough blabbing about headlights, bulbs and projectors, anyone have or know where I can find a passenger side front cornering lamp (the one next to the foglight) from an 96-99 I30? Mine is cracked for some unknown reason and water is being collected inside, forcing the bulbs I keep changing to blow out.

What's a bump? I'm new on forums and wondered why I keep seing people ask or give 'bumps'. If it means that what someone wrote is actually important and helpful, then give me a bump

And one more question, if they're ending the I30 line, are they really thinking that the new G35's are going to take its place? G35 sedans are not really that nice looking. Personally, I think they look like Altimas with over-emphasized lighting and a grille too wide and awkward looking (looks like a face with big old eyes and a huge smile).
Bump means to "bump" the thread to the top of the forum so people can see it right away, instead of having to search for it. It is not really a common thing here, but it is used frequently on the 4th gen and classified forums where there is more activity.

I35 will be replaced with the M35, which will be rear wheel drive and a hell of a lot more luxurious and powerful than a G35. The G35 could never replace the "I" as it is lower on the Infiniti rankings.
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 09:43 PM
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Explain how the M35 is going to be a "hell of a lot" more "powerful" than an I35. I can understand the rear wheel being better but not how its going to make a huge difference in power considering they will both be using the same engine. 20-30hp maybe at max, like the diff from I35 to G35C. Now I understand it can also come in AWD, or 45 versions...and the new M with the 4.5L will be "hell of a lot" more powerful, however it also falls in a totally different bracket than the I series ever did.. We're talking almost double the cost. The starting cost on the standard V6 RWD is 42,800.00. Fully decked out V8 with RWD is 60,800.00. Wowsers thats like this households I30 and I35 combined, literally. Unless they plan on giving a customer loyalty discount to I3x owners of about $30,000... I don't believe the M series is the replacement to the I series by any means.. at least from a price standpoint.
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 09:51 PM
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I think it's gonna be M45 not M35. It's rated at 340 hp with V8 engine. It's as if replacing both I and Q series at the same time. Right now even Q45 gives you 340 hp.

http://www.infiniti.com/content/0,,c...-12001,00.html

http://www.infiniti.com/content/mode...,32817,00.html
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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The new M concept next year comes with the 3.5RWD/AWD or the 4.5RWD.. so in theory its can be either the M35 or M45 if you go by their naming scema.
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by nguyendot
Explain how the M35 is going to be a "hell of a lot" more "powerful" than an I35.
I think i30ds was comparing to G35 not I35.

But, yeah, I agree with what you said. That VQ35 engine they use is kind of suspicious in terms of hp they put on paper. I'm not an expert in engines and certainly no comparison to people here on the org when it comes to Nissan cars but I know that from Altima and all the way up to G35(and now M35), they share the same engine.

I've read somewhere when they dyno'd 350Z and G35C, they produced similar horsepower unlike what it says on the paper. I think it was from freshalloy(?) not sure but I read the info via e46fanatics.com a long time ago.

I understand how certain amount of power is lost to the wheels when it's FWD set up as opposed to RWD. But, in terms of the engine itself, I think even the Altima V6 may able to produce same power(please correct me if I'm wrong). Now they're raising to 290hp for G35C I believe? I say it's some kind of marketing scheme when Nissan plays around with these numbers on paper.

Therefore, when even comparing between G35 and M35...I guess there wouldn't be much difference in power but as far as luxury, I'd say otherwise.

Also, I think technically, there's no replacement for the I unless Infiniti decides to bring another FWD sedan. However, in the mean time, I think M35 is the closest thing to replacing the I.
Old Oct 10, 2004 | 11:54 PM
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Close? I mean its the only thing left yes as in the next step up in line, but cmon the price difference is over 10k.
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just to let you guys know the h4 xd5 5800 are really nice and bright

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The M35 probably will have 20 hp more than the G35 sedan. I would not be suprised to see it at 280 hp and the G35 remain at 260 or maybe 265 so it has the same amount as the maxima. Remember, the G35 it the cheapest, bottom-of-the barrell offerings from Infiniti. Also, I think a stick is in store for the M35, along with AWD. The M45 like the previous M will be 340 hp.

I know the M35 will not be a direct replacement for the I35, but Infiniti is striving for a rear or all wheel drive set up for all their cars. Personally I think it is a mistake to give Lexus and Acura the FWD market.

All of this, of course, is not written in stone. The vehicle won't be available until 2006 model year. I remember that the new GT-R, which will appear as an Infiniti here in 2007, was at first to be powered by the 4.5L and be NA, however, now the current rumor is that it will be powered by the 3.5L and have twin turbos, pumping out over 450 hp!
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If the G35 is the cheapest offering, how come the I35 costs less? I won't argue the I35 is more luxurious, but in terms of dollars, it costs less than the G35 at just about all of its configurations. Personally I would have bought a G35 over an I35 had it been cheaper. I would rather have more hp, rwd, and tons more fun driving than the luxury part. Luxury is important but damn I'm still young, let me have fun.
Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by nguyendot
If the G35 is the cheapest offering, how come the I35 costs less? I won't argue the I35 is more luxurious, but in terms of dollars, it costs less than the G35 at just about all of its configurations.

The price between I35 and G35 sedan are about the same had they sold the I35 at the price they originally planned for...so it comes around 35k with similar options that include navigation, moonroof, etc. You can build it yourself at their website.

And yes, I35 in reality goes for like around 24 or 25k(unlike what the website says) especially nowadays. If you are basing on that price...you are correct but the car was not selling too well, not mention it's being discontinued imminently. So, they are doing all they can to sell them quick and get them off their lots. So of course, the I35 is going to cost less than G35 in just about all of its configurations.

Also, eventually, once I35 gets discontinued...G35 sedan will indeed be the cheapest offering.
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