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Old 02-16-2005, 10:28 AM
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96 i30 prnd21 cluster work on 98 i30

i want to do the shortended automatic mod.. however i want ot cover upt eh gear position indicators on the gear shifter with aleather shift boot..

now ofcourse i need to see where the gear is.. so i want o put the older cluster that has p,r,n,2,1

i found an older i30 cluster.. but i dont know if it will be compatible.. its a 95 cluster.. on my 98 infiniti.. hehe alsoanyone know naydealer in NY that might roll back the guage for me... i dont want my car to have 186k on it.. hehehe when it has 94,698 hehehe.. (yes i know how much my car has to the mile)
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Yeah, I was interested in doin this a while back as well, but could never find a cluster with the PRND21 anywhere, so I gave up..
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96 does not have that. No 96-99 I30 does. Niether does the 4th gen maxima for that matter. It did not come on the automatic tranny gauge cluster until 2000. The JDM cluster had it though... but good luck finding one of those.
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Just a thought, you don't necessarily need to "see" what gear you are in (though it would be cooler). Obviously you know where they fall in order, and you can feel it anyway because you can't shift any farther down than DRIVE without holding in the release button.
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are you shure.. i thought i remember seeignit on my cousins max... though i havnt seen him for several months... and he jsut has a gle.. so i dont know.. hes older so i dont hang out iwht him and he isnt into cars... but i could have sworn i remember .. well anyway... ****


wasnt soemone trying to do the p,r,n,d,2,1 mod or something..? yea i know i can tell what gear the car is in... from the feel... but i just want o have the visual aid..

+ coolness factor
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It did not appear in the USDM maxima/I30 until the A33. I am POSITIVE.
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i'm waiting for a response from matt_nz because he said they have them f/s over where he is and he was getting pricing and pictures to me. just haven't heard back from him recently so he might be busy. try pming him about it though if you wanna push this thing into production.
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if you converted to 5peed, you wouldnt have this issue
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I have a cluster for sale with this PRND12 in the middle going down
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I just felt like pointing out that you didn't find a '95 i30 cluster.
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who?

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I just felt like pointing out that you didn't find a '95 i30 cluster.
Who didn't???
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Originally Posted by Tim96I30t
Who didn't???

reread the original post tim.



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the I30 clusters do say 95 on them thats why
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Originally Posted by Tim96I30t
I have a cluster for sale with this PRND12 in the middle going down
How did you manage to get one of those??

On a side note, I would not want to put one in as the odometer and speedometer would be in km instead of miles.
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Originally Posted by i30ds
How did you manage to get one of those??

On a side note, I would not want to put one in as the odometer and speedometer would be in km instead of miles.
It has miles not km, easy to get just have to buy early I30 cluster
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and just to clarify to anyone who doesn't know, i30/maxima gauge clusters have the slots for the PRND21 but no wiring is actually connected so if you put bulbs in, nothing would happen. you'd have to get the overseas cefiro cluster and figure it out from there. matt_nz was supposed to get back to us on this mod because the parts were no more than $35 new from the dealer, so if we had a gd we could save on shipping...but we never heard back on this because he must have been busy.
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I think if you put bulbs in and connect to your gear shift w/ wire the bulbs should light when put in corresponding gear, anyone? What are the I30 missing that they would need? You would also have to cut the surround in the middle of the speedo and tach so the bulbs can be seen, its there just not cut out.
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Originally Posted by i30ds
How did you manage to get one of those??

On a side note, I would not want to put one in as the odometer and speedometer would be in km instead of miles.


well if they have digital model just swap the miles unit and were goood
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Originally Posted by Tim96I30t
It has miles not km, easy to get just have to buy early I30 cluster
You are worng then. The A32 gauge cluster in North America never had the PRND21 feature. It has the slots for the bulbs on the back side, but the black cluster housing does not, so you would never see the lights. Even if you were able to drill holes in the housing, you would still need to get your hands on the insert that has PRND21 on it so that the light would show PRND21.
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Originally Posted by HomerMAC
well if they have digital model just swap the miles unit and were goood
Swapping in an analog miles speedo would work too.
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What leather boot would you get if you were to cover up the shifter? Would you just use the Manual leather boot or would that be too much/bulky to fit under for Autos? I'm about to do this mod as well.
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Originally Posted by i30ds
You are worng then. The A32 gauge cluster in North America never had the PRND21 feature. It has the slots for the bulbs on the back side, but the black cluster housing does not, so you would never see the lights. Even if you were able to drill holes in the housing, you would still need to get your hands on the insert that has PRND21 on it so that the light would show PRND21.
I know this read whole thing first but it can be done with the correct parts to any A32
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Originally Posted by Tim96I30t
I know this read whole thing first...
Maybe you need your read your own posts. I have been in this thread before you were even member here.

First, you claimed to have a cluster with the PRND21 down the middle. When I asked you where you got it from, you said "easy to get just have to buy early I30 cluster". Since the 96-99 I30 does not have the PRND21 down the middle you basically contradicted yourself.

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...but it can be done with the correct parts to any A32
Did you just now figure this out? Read the whole thread... we are all aware that it can be done with the proper parts. Its FINDING THE PARTS thats the problem!
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what do you want pics?

Originally Posted by i30ds
Maybe you need your read your own posts. I have been in this thread before you were even member here.

First, you claimed to have a cluster with the PRND21 down the middle. When I asked you where you got it from, you said "easy to get just have to buy early I30 cluster". Since the 96-99 I30 does not have the PRND21 down the middle you basically contradicted yourself.



Did you just now figure this out? Read the whole thread... we are all aware that it can be done with the proper parts. Its FINDING THE PARTS thats the problem!

Its in the cluster...the bulbs are not there but it is there...can be done....all you need is oem parts from a dealer NOS....not in U.S.
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Well, from what I've heard in the 4th Gen Forum...Every A32 Gauge Cluster has the spots for the PRND21 in the back, but not visible from the front, nor have bulbs. Supposedly you just have to make a hole and wire/solder an LED in each position. Bad thing is yes you'd have the holes and LED's light up for what gear your in, but you wouldn't actually have the Letters/Numbers for what gear unless you made up a custom template and stuck it behind the cluster and somehow illuminated it.
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Originally Posted by Tim96I30t
Its in the cluster...the bulbs are not there but it is there...can be done....all you need is oem parts from a dealer NOS....not in U.S.
You think I need to see pictures?!? I am AWARE of what the back side of the usdm cluster looks like. I have removed my cluster 3 times, to put on cefiro chrome gauge rings, install the clutch pedal, and tap the tam screw for my rpm switch for my jdm variable intake... AND guess what?? Its not the same as the actual jdm cluster that has the PRND21 down the center.

It is evident that you are lost in this thread as it is about the actual jdm cluster not the regular cluster. We were all talking about the jdm cluster that has the PRND21 on the FRONT, and then you posted saying you had one, when you didnt... all you had was the regular cluster, which is uselss in this matter as we all HAVE IT.
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Originally Posted by Max Mutes
... Bad thing is yes you'd have the holes and LED's light up for what gear your in, but you wouldn't actually have the Letters/Numbers for what gear unless you made up a custom template and stuck it behind the cluster and somehow illuminated it.
THis is the key issue with trying to conver the usdm cluster housing. The only I could see doing this is if you got the PRND21 from the 5th gen cluster and then cut a spot for it on the 4th gen housing... It has the capability to look like **** real quick.

I think the best bet is to try and see if Simon can gen his hands on the jdm cluster housing and then you could put your gauges, flexable circut board, and clear plastic on it.
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.. why doesnt someone jsut put a led or vvoltometer to see if u get any power to the spots on teh USDM cluster where the bluubs are misisng.. if so.woudl have to get the font cover from teh non USDM.. and swap.. simple.. except where the heck are we gonan get the non USDM clusters..?
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Originally Posted by HomerMAC
... and swap.. simple.. except where the heck are we gonan get the non USDM clusters..?
This is the critical problem with doing this.
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I found some cefiros for parts at Panaramaautospares A32 and others
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the Panaramaautospares people dont ship to states.. i tried to get a bumper cover.. siad its not cost efficent..
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Originally Posted by HomerMAC
the Panaramaautospares people dont ship to states.. i tried to get a bumper cover.. siad its not cost efficent..
Yeah fucc that sketchy place... I would seriously hit up SY or Paradox and see if they can source it for you... Or see if the 5th gen maxima housing is compatable in the 4th gen cluster... from the looks of it, it might just work.
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I looked at 4g clusters, place where the bulbs go into the circuit board there are no traces, so if you put in bulbs they wouldnt light up. You need a bezel with PRND12 on it from cefiro or a 5gen-hack-job. Then you need to figure out the wiring from cluster to the shifter. Good luck. I tried this.
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do a cluster swap or do a hybrid with different parts.
take this:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...1_597_full.jpg
and this:
http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sel...ges/RIG384.jpg
and use the gear selector part. then add bulbs and wire them to the tcm.
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Originally Posted by HomerMAC
the Panaramaautospares people dont ship to states.. i tried to get a bumper cover.. siad its not cost efficent..
who said it was not cost efficent...for you or them....you can get anything if you are willing to pay, thats my previous experience, but I have not emailed them yet
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Originally Posted by JSutter
do a cluster swap or do a hybrid with different parts.
take this:
http://memimage.cardomain.net/member...1_597_full.jpg
and this:
http://images.channeladvisor.com/Sel...ges/RIG384.jpg
and use the gear selector part. then add bulbs and wire them to the tcm.
Perfect! Once again JSutter is right on the money!

Now Homer, just get that bezel and then the PRND21 insert and figure out the wiring and you are set.
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Originally Posted by Tim96I30t
who said it was not cost efficent...for you or them....you can get anything if you are willing to pay, thats my previous experience, but I have not emailed them yet
Some how I doubt they would ship a bumper from austrailia to the states via FOB destination. Therefore Homer would be paying for shipping and it is not cost efficient for him.
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don't answer if you do not know

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Some how I doubt they would ship a bumper from austrailia to the states via FOB destination. Therefore Homer would be paying for shipping and it is not cost efficient for him.
Ex. "somehow I doubt" I want facts not your opinion and the question was not for you to answer, let homer answer, and they will ship just not small orders
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Originally Posted by Tim96I30t
Ex. "somehow I doubt" I want facts not your opinion and the question was not for you to answer, let homer answer, and they will ship just not small orders
I dont care who you wanted to answer, I was simply responding to something that is painfully obvious. Do you actually think that they would pay for the shipping from austrailia to the US on a whole bumper?!?

And if they won't even ship small orders (which is the relevance to this thread) then why do you keep bringing that site up?? Try posting something useful next time.
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Originally Posted by Tim96I30t
who said it was not cost efficent...for you or them....you can get anything if you are willing to pay, thats my previous experience, but I have not emailed them yet
.... okay mr.million dollar man... heh

they said they dont ship to the states.... i asked them and also told them that there is a large community of i30 enthusiast that wohuld be interested in the parts... and they said.. its not cost efficent. for them to do it... thus they dont do it..

i wish i had the email to quote them but it dont.. but that was their stand...
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