Is my Sentra MAX enough?
02-24-2007, 09:35 PM
#1
Is my Sentra MAX enough?
I'm back, this time with a new project: 350SE-L
I figured I'd post on here b/c questions are going to come up (I'll start in post 2 w/ the questions) and I'm still working in unfamiliar territory. Some things with the VQ35 are a mystery to me, I only really know SR20s.
Anyway, the engine is from a 2002 Maxima SE 6-speed, most likely non-HLSD,
, but I still love it. Engine is so clean, I can't get over it, the car couldn't have had more than 50k on the clock. I'm currently hunting down a Pathfinder TB and some customized SpecV axles which should have no problem plugging into the maxima's tranny.
We shall see how that turns out when the time comes. 1 mount is done, we would've had more if the welder didn't go home early today. Cable shifter and hyd. clutch will be going in on Tue. Everything else incl standalone will be done at home.
Here's some pics:
Engine in place, look at those 6 runners, hehe.
Tranny side mount (I'm looking for urethane inserts by the time we finish). Note the location of the shift linkage:
Intake manifold on and engine cover on. Note the wonderful location of the starter and other accessories:
Will the hood close? Who cares:
I figured I'd post on here b/c questions are going to come up (I'll start in post 2 w/ the questions) and I'm still working in unfamiliar territory. Some things with the VQ35 are a mystery to me, I only really know SR20s.
Anyway, the engine is from a 2002 Maxima SE 6-speed, most likely non-HLSD,
, but I still love it. Engine is so clean, I can't get over it, the car couldn't have had more than 50k on the clock. I'm currently hunting down a Pathfinder TB and some customized SpecV axles which should have no problem plugging into the maxima's tranny.We shall see how that turns out when the time comes. 1 mount is done, we would've had more if the welder didn't go home early today. Cable shifter and hyd. clutch will be going in on Tue. Everything else incl standalone will be done at home.
Here's some pics:
Engine in place, look at those 6 runners, hehe.
Tranny side mount (I'm looking for urethane inserts by the time we finish). Note the location of the shift linkage:
Intake manifold on and engine cover on. Note the wonderful location of the starter and other accessories:
Will the hood close? Who cares:
02-25-2007, 07:58 AM
#6
Kind of late now, but if you were worried about hood clearance issues, couldn't you have lowered the engine a little in the process of making mounts for it?
Either way, good luck on the swap, looks like it's coming along well!
Either way, good luck on the swap, looks like it's coming along well!
02-25-2007, 10:19 AM
#9
Does the passanger side mount bolt directly to it? I miss my B14, I wanted to stick my old VQ30 in it and use it as my daily. Sold it though.
Good Luck with the project, why didn't the max get the engine...
Sold it though.Good Luck with the project, why didn't the max get the engine...
02-25-2007, 10:20 AM
#10
so onto the questions, since this is the place that knows about VQs, I'd love to hear what you guys think.
First of all, I will be running standalone, either Haltech or AEM. Restrictions of the hardware may limit me from using the coil packs and actually running wires from a single distru. Most systems won't do more than 2 or 4 coils, systems that can handle 6 coils are worth more than I paid for the engine/trans. All wiring in the car will be done by hand as I'm quite knowledgeable in electrical.
So first off. CVTCS is a no-go. Management for that is also pretty costly and I already know IMMU prevents me from using the ECU. I assume these 2 items that I should just leave disconnected, correct?
Next up, cam position sensors. Prolly goes without saying but I'm sure the following picture is them. Do I need to use both or are the cams in sync when I don't use the CVTCS?
It would seem that the VQ uses dual runner lengths at low/high RPMs. Assuming low RPM = closed and High RPM = open, which position is closed and which is open? What would be the best way to actuate this valve?
Last question for now, I plan to do all the exhaust by hand. I'm thinking either 3" single or 2.25" dual. Has anyone done full dual in which both pipes run next to rachother and split at the rear axle?
First of all, I will be running standalone, either Haltech or AEM. Restrictions of the hardware may limit me from using the coil packs and actually running wires from a single distru. Most systems won't do more than 2 or 4 coils, systems that can handle 6 coils are worth more than I paid for the engine/trans. All wiring in the car will be done by hand as I'm quite knowledgeable in electrical.
So first off. CVTCS is a no-go. Management for that is also pretty costly and I already know IMMU prevents me from using the ECU. I assume these 2 items that I should just leave disconnected, correct?
Next up, cam position sensors. Prolly goes without saying but I'm sure the following picture is them. Do I need to use both or are the cams in sync when I don't use the CVTCS?
It would seem that the VQ uses dual runner lengths at low/high RPMs. Assuming low RPM = closed and High RPM = open, which position is closed and which is open? What would be the best way to actuate this valve?
Last question for now, I plan to do all the exhaust by hand. I'm thinking either 3" single or 2.25" dual. Has anyone done full dual in which both pipes run next to rachother and split at the rear axle?
02-25-2007, 10:27 AM
#11
Radiator fitment won't be too big of a deal. B14s have the advantage of tucking the radiator under the support, if need be, I can always move it forward, I have plenty of frontal room.
Hood fitment, It still may fit, the look is deceiving b/c I don't have any fenders on. I still may have a problem at the very front, If need be, I can come up with some solutions involving a right angle grinder
As far as mounts go, all mounts are based off stock except the tranny mount which comes from an Integra. All 4 mounts will be fitted with adapters so the mounts can reach the block.
Hood fitment, It still may fit, the look is deceiving b/c I don't have any fenders on. I still may have a problem at the very front, If need be, I can come up with some solutions involving a right angle grinder
As far as mounts go, all mounts are based off stock except the tranny mount which comes from an Integra. All 4 mounts will be fitted with adapters so the mounts can reach the block.
02-25-2007, 11:23 AM
#12
Originally Posted by 1997 GA16DE
Restrictions of the hardware may limit me from using the coil packs and actually running wires from a single distru.
Originally Posted by 1997 GA16DE
If need be, I can come up with some solutions involving a right angle grinder
02-25-2007, 11:36 AM
#13
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Very nice! Id love to have a VQ30/35 in a sentra for a daily...all stock of course.
Check out engineswaptech.com for lots of VQ fun.
Because an old sentra with a VQ35 is retartedly awesome...
~Alex
Check out engineswaptech.com for lots of VQ fun.
Originally Posted by SpeedCrazie
why didn't the max get the engine...
~Alex
02-25-2007, 03:50 PM
#16
Originally Posted by Tatanko
Would using an Emanage Ultimate really be THAT expensive for you? How cheap was this motor exactly? Don't ditch the coil packs, whatever you do.
Don't cut a hole in the hood, please. I am so sick of seeing people do this as an easy-out solution and it looks so bad.
Don't cut a hole in the hood, please. I am so sick of seeing people do this as an easy-out solution and it looks so bad.
The engine cannot go any lower, I'm almost sitting on the cross member. My first action would be to remove the hood's skeleton, my next would be to remove parts of the hood. I'll see what else I can do, but this isn't something a hood scoop is going to fix.
02-25-2007, 03:56 PM
#17
Originally Posted by SpeedCrazie
why didn't the max get the engine...
The whole point of the project is to make a lot of power in a very unique way. I've seen a B15 run a 12.8 with this engine, I'm hoping I can get it below that due to my car being lighter and having a few more mods done to the engine.
02-28-2007, 05:38 PM
#22
you've probably seen this, but....here it is again. It's a B15, but the idea is the same.
By the way, best of luck with this swap. Being more of a suspension guy myself than motor, I do have to ask a proabably dumb question: is it possible to use a A33 ECU rather than a standalone A/M ECU?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....35+SE-R+sentra
By the way, best of luck with this swap. Being more of a suspension guy myself than motor, I do have to ask a proabably dumb question: is it possible to use a A33 ECU rather than a standalone A/M ECU?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....35+SE-R+sentra
02-28-2007, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
you've probably seen this, but....here it is again. It's a B15, but the idea is the same.
By the way, best of luck with this swap. Being more of a suspension guy myself than motor, I do have to ask a proabably dumb question: is it possible to use a A33 ECU rather than a standalone A/M ECU?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....35+SE-R+sentra
By the way, best of luck with this swap. Being more of a suspension guy myself than motor, I do have to ask a proabably dumb question: is it possible to use a A33 ECU rather than a standalone A/M ECU?
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....35+SE-R+sentra
03-01-2007, 05:07 AM
#24
Ebay headers (prolly stone racing, it didn't say).
link above looks pretty cool, never seen the white one, but I believe that's Travis (Unlucky on SR20forum). He's been helping me out with some stuff like axle choice and trying to understand controlling the VTC (which doesn't sound very possible to do at this time).
link above looks pretty cool, never seen the white one, but I believe that's Travis (Unlucky on SR20forum). He's been helping me out with some stuff like axle choice and trying to understand controlling the VTC (which doesn't sound very possible to do at this time).
03-01-2007, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 1997 GA16DE
Ebay headers (prolly stone racing, it didn't say).
link above looks pretty cool, never seen the white one, but I believe that's Travis (Unlucky on SR20forum). He's been helping me out with some stuff like axle choice and trying to understand controlling the VTC (which doesn't sound very possible to do at this time).
link above looks pretty cool, never seen the white one, but I believe that's Travis (Unlucky on SR20forum). He's been helping me out with some stuff like axle choice and trying to understand controlling the VTC (which doesn't sound very possible to do at this time).
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03-06-2007, 08:59 AM
#29
Originally Posted by 636specman
be prepared to not hook at all. if its under 50, anywhere in second can blow the tires off and my car weighs more. its fun as hell though. now toss some nitrous on it and spin through 4th.
here's the latest stuff and some older pix of the car:
one of my fav pix:
back:
interior (P11 seats):
old VE engine (dropped valves):
current monster:
03-23-2007, 10:01 PM
#33
I jus call it 350SEL.
Anyway, I'm still up to my neck in wires....well, not so much anymore. I'm just doing general wiring and I've been going at it slowly. Alarm, locks and windows are complete. Blinkers work, brakelights work, I'm currently working on exterior lighting and power mirrors and still some general stuff to do here and there. Still a long way from done b/c of all the little things.
Anyway, I'm still up to my neck in wires....well, not so much anymore. I'm just doing general wiring and I've been going at it slowly. Alarm, locks and windows are complete. Blinkers work, brakelights work, I'm currently working on exterior lighting and power mirrors and still some general stuff to do here and there. Still a long way from done b/c of all the little things.
03-24-2007, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by irish44j
where is the radiator going to go?
Originally Posted by 1997 GA16DE
Radiator fitment won't be too big of a deal. B14s have the advantage of tucking the radiator under the support, if need be, I can always move it forward, I have plenty of frontal room.
03-25-2007, 03:39 PM
#38
A 3.5 liter DOHC V6 can fit inside a tiny little Sentra, but there's no way a VG30DE will ever fit in my turd gen. It's not fair! 
Either, that's one seriously sick project, and the best of luck getting this bad boy to run. 
Either, that's one seriously sick project, and the best of luck getting this bad boy to run.
