Do certain intakes actually HURT low end on autos, or do they just NOT HELP? If they do hurt low end, how/why does this happen?

I know that a CAI is the "best" for autos, but hasn't a hybrid been shown to be decent? What would a reasonable "hybrid" setup cost me, and where could I get the parts? I have searched, and even started threads about this in the past, but it always gets off-topic and we end up talking about CAIs and pre-fab full intakes.

What will a cone/popcharger do by itself?
What is the Stillen kit considered? Does it exhibit the low-end problems of other cone-alone filters? Can you add a frankencar midpipe to it to help low end?

Remember, all of this is on an AUTO. Thanks!

 

Its more of the whole setup that may cause a loss of low end on autos. Most people that have complained about the loss used the pop charger with the stock air box. Dynos show a steep drop in high rmps with the CAI with all of its tubing. Hybrid intakes have no loss of power in the low end and seem to give the car more power overall.

 

I had the stillen kit-- and i have an auto.. you will seriously lose low end with just a pop charger... u wont make usuable power under 3k rpm.. i used to have to rev alittle to get up a hill and stuff..

sometiems i felt like goin back to stock just to get the low end back.. and i didnt want to get a cai cuz i didnt want to cut a whole..

but the hybrid intake is a whole different story it incorporates the cai and pop charger set up-- so it has the best of both worlds..

you get most of your low end back now.. and your engine purrs even better at high rpm's.. it's all good.. any hybrid intake would be my suggestion...

i am biased w/ franken car because i have the pipe.. and buying from a fellow .orger is better than buying from a big business...


oh yea here's the prices on intakes so far

Stillen -- 200??
JWT popcharger -- 100+
PR Cai - 150+
FrankenCar intake - 125 (mid pipe only ~ 60)
Ebay intake-- 80 (may or may not have a good filter and may or may not have upper intake pipe)
Weapon R intake - ?? no idea.. not alot of people have it but i hear its around 150 i beleive

So if u just want a popcharger go w/ JWT or get a gneric cone and adapter for a cheap intake then go to home depot and make a pipe ur self.. or buy a Frankencar one.. which is pretty cheap


just my 2 cents

 

So did you just add the midpipe to the Stillen, or did you do the full frankencar?

So the full frankencar is no (or very little) loss of low end, but significant gain of mid and high? This is ridiculously confusing...

Why do autos suffer so much from low-end loss?

 

You can just add a midpipe to your stillen/pop. I think Cattman will sell you the midpipe from PR.

 

if i add hybrid intake to my pop charger will it increas use of gas?

 

i just added the frankencar mid pipe.. i still have the stillen filter..

all the hybrids are the same.. they offer the best of both intake setups (cai & popcharger)

The low end is back becuase of the mid pipe--- and you get increase in mid-high end because of the pop charger has a direct flow to the TB unlike the cai with runs thru a long tube to get to the TB..

auto's suffer because we cant manipulate the rpms like manuals do.. plus the transfer case takes up alot of the power from us.. which sux.. thats why everyone that likes to go fast gets manuals..

 

So what is a frankencar considered? A psudeo-popcharger, or a hybrid in its own right?

 

Transfer case?

WTF?
































































You mean torque converter?

 

LOL. I have been into Jeeps so long I did not even pick up on that. I think he meant Torque Converter. Either is a TC, in certain circles...

 

ahaha my fault.. i'm slow in the morning.. i meant torque converter ahaha

i feel stupid now

 

How about the INJEN intake any word on how it performs on the low and high end of the powerband?